My Grandmother Ann (ie) MOSS in on the 1881 Census at 5 Melbourne Street, her father William Moss age 32 born Preston (a Cabinet Maker). At No 7 Melbourne Street is a Joseph Moss age 41 born Preston (a Tailor) with his family (perhaps William's brother ?) and at No 22 is a William Moss age 72 born Longton with his family and a Wilson family lodging (he also a Tailor), perhaps Williams and Joseph's Father ? Is there anyone with a connection to the surname MOSS in Preston, in particular with the above entries ? Kind regards, Pauline

Hi Vern, There were only about three families in Haighton Green and one of them was a KIRBY, but not with the names you are looking for. Thos. KIRBY 30 Ag. Lab. Born in County Eliz. KIRBY 30 Born in County Sarah KIRBY 8 Born in County William KIRBY 6 Born in County Robt? KIRBY 4 Born in County Elizabeth KIRBY 2 Born in County. As a matter of interest my dad's sister married an Albert KIRKBY born about 1907 in Preston and I believe his family came from the same area as yours. His daughter thinks the family had some Spanish connections. Does this ring any bells. Regards, Anne in Bolton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vern Prescott" <vprescott@sympatico.ca> To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:32 AM Subject: Richard KIRBY lookup 1841 Census Please > Would SKS who has the 1841 Census CD's please look for Richard KIRBY, born 1824 in Goosnargh. > > He is likely to be living at Haighton Green. > > His father Richard KIRBY was a farmer but might be deceased. > > His mother's name is Nancy. > > Thanks for any help provided. > > Vern in Ontario > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello All I am researching for my stepfather, his mother's family originally from Preston in Lancashire. Her name Margaret Heaps born in 1908. Her father's name was John Heaps, a cotton spinner. On Jan 21, 1933 she married Henry Hobson, a farm labourer, at St. Matthews in Preston, son of Frank Hobson, a gardener. I also believe that Margaret had two sisters, Alice and Ann, and two brothers, James and William. This is all I know about them at this point in time. Please if anyone can tell me anything about the families I would be obliged.

Would SKS who has the 1841 Census CD's please look for Richard KIRBY, born 1824 in Goosnargh. He is likely to be living at Haighton Green. His father Richard KIRBY was a farmer but might be deceased. His mother's name is Nancy. Thanks for any help provided. Vern in Ontario

Hi all Seeking access to newspaper/police/hospital/ambulance/court reports on the death of my wifes grandfather following a road accident. Can anyone suggest where to look? Dave

Good Morning I'm new to the list and am not entirely sure if I'm in the right place. I'm interested in ALISONs and GERMANs and no doubt others from Park Hall, Charnock Richard. Should I be on a different list, do you think?? Or am I close enough? There is an Edward Onslow ALISON christened at Croston 24th May 1826, and a Laughton ALISON christened at Euxton 23rd Jan 1839. I'm new to genealogy so might be doing it all wrong. Anyway, anyone have any connections with any of these? Thanks in advance, Susan

I have just rejoined this list after several months. I would be interested in making contact with anyone with BAGSHAW and/or KIRBY interests in Preston, Kirkham or other areas of the Fylde Vern in Ontario

Can anyone who knows Preston well, tell me what this street would have been like about 1900 please? Dina. www.dinasgenealogy.co.uk

Subject :Turner I have Turner relatives from Preston. The males were often christened Turner Turner. My great grandfather was the most recent. He was residing at Wellfield Road, Preston in 1913. Born approx 1857.He had a son also Turner Turner born 1888. Carol

Hi Listers, A big thanks to Lynn Tagg, Jeff Jones and Jim Lancaster, for very welcome information in answer to my query. Regards from Joan in Melbourne, Australia.

My father's cousin, Mary Ann Emma MOON was born in Topcliffe in the North Riding of Yorkshire in 1864. Her father was a man called Elisha Moon, my grandfather's half brother. In 1892 she married Stephen TAYLOR from Norwood and they had 2 children, Edith (1893) and Gordon (1896) both born in Otley in the West Riding. The 1901 census shows the family living in Brook St, Preston. Stephen was working as a draper on his 'own account'. Does anyone on the list have any connections to this family? Any sign of them in directories covering this period? Any help in tracking them down would be appreciated. Mary Lister Bahrain _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Hi Listers Here are my names from Preston: James MC DERMOTT married Mary Ellen CROSS July 13, 1879 St. Mary's Edward MC DERMOTT married Ellen TOPPING July 1, 1888 St. Augustines Owen MC DERMOTT married Catherine GRIFFIN @ 1883 St. Walburge Catherine (Kate) MC DERMOTT married an EMMERSON between 1881 and 1883 James MC DERMOTT married Catherine BAXTER May 1850 St. Ignatius I hope any of these names are familiar to someone. PAM Bklyn NY USA

Hi Listers, Could some kind person please tell me who to contact to apply for a birth certificate of my G.Grandfather William Partington, who was born in Preston, Lancashire about 1822. Also if you know the cost of same I would be most grateful. Kind regards, from Joan in Melbourne Australia.

Hello I realise that this is a long shot but maybe I'll be lucky. I am trying to trace a cousin who was born in 1936 in the Wirral. He was born Raymond Withe and was later adopted and brought up in Kent. Last heard of living in Preston working as a janitor in a block of flats. I don't know his adopted surname, and believe he may have changed his first name to John - he had been a musical director in the RAF and also worked on cruise ships. There you are - I said it was a long shot! Any help would be most appreciated. Cheers, Jeff Jones in Herefordshire

Hi, Joan, You asked about "a birth certificate of my G.Grandfather ...born in Preston, ... about 1822" Birth certificates are a copy of the civil birth registration. Unfortunately the civil registration of Births, Marriages, and Deaths only began in July 1837. For details of how to obtain civil certificates for events after this date you should look at Genuki www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/ and then go to Civil Registration. However, this will not help you. The nearest thing to a civil certificate of a birth, marriage, or death before 1837 was an entry in a church register. In general terms, this would be a Register of the Parish Church. i.e. the Church of England (CoE) or Anglican Church. From about 1700, as the population grew the number of CoE chapels grew, but most were to provide a convenient place for Sunday worship and were restricted to offering the sacrament of Baptism and providing a place for burial. Marriages tended to be restricted to the ancient parish churches. Further, not only did the number of CoE chapels increase, but non-conformist chapels developed. The earliest were built by people who were known as Independents. In general these were people who believed that the Church of England was not reformed enough. These sometimes became known as Presbyterians, or Congregationalists. By 1800, there were also Quakers and Unitarians in Preston, and the Methodists were erecting chapels. The other problem with the Preston area is that it was the centre of a significant Roman Catholic area. Many of the early registers of these chapels were deposited with the Registration Commissioners shortly after the start of civil registration and these registers are now in The National Archives (TNA). Most of the TNA registers and many of the CoE registers have been indexed in the International Genealogical Index (IGI) prepared by the Mormon (LDS) Church. You would be wise to look for the entry in this. If you have a LDS Family History Centre (FHC) near you, it should have a copy, or you can look at FamilySearch on the internet (www.familysearch.org ) Remember this is an Index and you should try to get a copy of the original from which the entry was taken. Some of the local church registers for the Preston area have been transcribed/indexed by the Lancashire Family History & Heraldry Society (LFHHS) and their publications list is on-line at www.lfhhs.org.uk go to Shop, and then Books, and Fiche. I hope this helps. I am sure that if you have problems another note to the list will provide some guidance. Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Waugh" <wjoan@optushome.com.au> To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:10 AM Subject: Birth Certificate.

Ron, A Thomas HOLDERNESS appears as a widower in the 1891 census for Preston: viz., Thomas HOLDERNESS, Father, 64, Retired cotton weaver Robert HOLDERNESS, Head, (also widower), 26, Cotton cloth looker Agnes HOLDERNESS, Dau, 5, Scholar They lived at 26 Duke Street. I have a Christopher HOLT marrying Zipporah COOPER 1852 Feb 29, with dau. Harriet Jane and Louisa Alice. Brian Cooper bcooper@mts.net In Preston from 1770: COOPER, ATHERTON, BARNFATHER, BRADSHAW, BUSBY, ELLITHORN, HELME, HODGKINSON, PARKINSON, ROBINSON, WILSON > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Nourse" <ron@nourse.fsnet.co.uk> > To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:17 PM > Subject: HOLT, WILCOCK, EDWARDS, HOLDERNESS in Preston, 1820's onwards >

Hi Ron, My gt. gt. grandfather William Abbott's 2nd wife was called Margaret Wilcock. I don't know if this was her maiden name or whether she had been married before. They were both born about 1811. On the 1881 Census they were Provision Dealers in Everton Gardens. Were your Wilcocks Roman Catholics and if so, did they go to St. Ignatius' Church. Anne in Bolton. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Nourse" <ron@nourse.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:17 PM Subject: HOLT, WILCOCK, EDWARDS, HOLDERNESS in Preston, 1820's onwards > Hello, list > > I've reached a plateau (I refuse to call it a brick wall) with some of my Preston-based names, so now seems a good moment to post those names, and I ask if they ring any bells with anyone. > > HOLT - Richard (b 1832, son of James and Margaret HOLT of Clitheroe) and wife Sarah Ann nee SMITH (of Manchester). HOLT family in Spring Gardens, Preston, from 1860's to 1930's. Richard's siblings were: John, Margaret, Elizabeth, Sarah Anne, Starkie and Wainwright HOLT(all born Clitheroe). As to Sarah Ann's family - I'm saving that line till much later! > > WILCOCK - William (b ca 1820, parents not identified) and wife Isabella nee DICKENSON. Both poss long-term Preston families. Sons John, Richard and William WILCOCK , all born Preston. Isabella b ca 1823 and poss daughter of John and Nancy DICKENSON with siblings Margaret, Barbara and Thomas DICKENSON. > > EDWARDS - Margaret b ca 1807, became wife of George ALBERT in Preston in 1826. Her parents poss John and Ann, her siblings Elizabeth and William EDWARDS. > > HOLDERNESS - Ellen b Preston 1835 daughter of William HOLDERNESS, mother's name unknown ; Ellen married Charles ALBERT 1862. Her siblings were: Thomas and George HOLDERNESS. > > All were/are common surnames in Preston, hence the inclusion of all possible given names as well. Can anyone make any associations? > > Sent more in hope than expectation. > > Ron > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello, list I've reached a plateau (I refuse to call it a brick wall) with some of my Preston-based names, so now seems a good moment to post those names, and I ask if they ring any bells with anyone. HOLT - Richard (b 1832, son of James and Margaret HOLT of Clitheroe) and wife Sarah Ann nee SMITH (of Manchester). HOLT family in Spring Gardens, Preston, from 1860's to 1930's. Richard's siblings were: John, Margaret, Elizabeth, Sarah Anne, Starkie and Wainwright HOLT(all born Clitheroe). As to Sarah Ann's family - I'm saving that line till much later! WILCOCK - William (b ca 1820, parents not identified) and wife Isabella nee DICKENSON. Both poss long-term Preston families. Sons John, Richard and William WILCOCK , all born Preston. Isabella b ca 1823 and poss daughter of John and Nancy DICKENSON with siblings Margaret, Barbara and Thomas DICKENSON. EDWARDS - Margaret b ca 1807, became wife of George ALBERT in Preston in 1826. Her parents poss John and Ann, her siblings Elizabeth and William EDWARDS. HOLDERNESS - Ellen b Preston 1835 daughter of William HOLDERNESS, mother's name unknown ; Ellen married Charles ALBERT 1862. Her siblings were: Thomas and George HOLDERNESS. All were/are common surnames in Preston, hence the inclusion of all possible given names as well. Can anyone make any associations? Sent more in hope than expectation. Ron

these are my main interests all are from preston unless otherwise stated HARRISON ( crostron/ bretherton pre 1840 THOMPSON BRADLEY NICK(X)SON HOLDING ( Brindle/ Wheelton pre 1885 ) WALMLSEY ( " " ) FLETCHER KITCHEN LEWTY FAZACKERLEY other names of less importance - the moment at least HALL, AIREY, SHERRINGTON, HOGARTH , CARR. as ever if any of these strike a chord dont hesitate to contact me regards paul harrison

these are my main interests all are from preston unless otherwise stated HARRISON ( crostron/ bretherton pre 1840 THOMPSON BRADLEY NICK(X)SON HOLDING ( Brindle/ Wheelton pre 1885 ) WALMLSEY ( " " ) FLETCHER KITCHEN LEWTY FAZACKERLEY other names of less importance - the moment at least HALL, AIREY, SHERRINGTON, HOGARTH , CARR. as ever if any of these strike a chord dont hesitate to contact me regards paul harrison