Hello List, Here's a link to the Lancaster County libraries: http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/libraries/ Selecting the 'Your Catalogue' option will take you to: http://lclcat.lancashire.gov.uk:8001/www-bin/www_lclcat which will allow you to search the collections of member libraries on-line, including the Harris Library. The holdings and locations of GRO census publications will show up if you search on 'census' and the date range. Good hunting, Brian Cooper bcooper@mts.net Manitoba, Canada

Lancashire Record Office also told me that the GRO covers all counties whereas they only want to deal with records for Lancashire. Lynn in Preston ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lancaster" <jim.lancaster@zen.co.uk> To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 6:15 PM Subject: Re: GRO Indexes. > Hi, Pat, > > Welcome to Preston. Given half a chance my wife would have us move back > there!!! > > You wrote > > > I've just discovered that the County Record Office in Preston doesn't have > the GRO index's > > Where do I go to look at them? > > The simple reason is that they are available in the Harris Library in the > town centre. > > Before family history became as popular as it is today, the Harris Library > started to buy the film/fiche and so it continued to build its collection as > and when money was available for the benefit of its users. The Lancashire > Record office on the other hand is concerned with the preservation and > conservation of records, rather than printed or duplicated material. When > the two institutions became part of the same authority in 1972, it would > have been seen as a waste of public money to duplicate this provision. > > This also happens in reverse in Manchester. The main Manchester Library, > Manchester Central Library, has a big collection of local and family history > material, but NOT the General Register Office Indexes - because the Greater > Manchester Record Office has purchased them. > > Have a look at the Reference Library in the Harris Library, you will be > surprised at its holdings. > > Hope this helps > > Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick Molloy" <patrick@windflower.eclipse.co.uk> > To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 12:12 PM > Subject: GRO Indexs. > > > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

Thanks to everyone who pointed me in the direction of the Harris Library. You are nice people. All I've got to now is find Preston! Pat, Clayton-Le-Woods.

On Friday 07 May 2004 18:15, you wrote: > > I've just discovered that the County Record Office in Preston doesn't > > have > > the GRO index's > > > Where do I go to look at them? > > The simple reason is that they are available in the Harris Library in the > town centre. If only the staff of the CRO had bothered to tell me that the Harris library also holds the 1881 census fiche for Preston. I called a day trip there short after being be told they only had the transcription (which contains glaring errors for my family). I was pretty mad when I got all the way home, checked online where the 1881 fiche were held and found that they were kept at the Harris Library (just around the corner)! -- Stuart Morgan http://www.tase.co.uk

Hi, the Harris library are online. E-mail address is Harris.Reference@lcl.lancscc.gov.uk They have been very helpful in the past/ Best wishes Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Molloy To: ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 3:13 PM Subject: GRO Indexs. Thanks to everyone who pointed me in the direction of the Harris Library. You are nice people. All I've got to now is find Preston! <snip>

Hi, Pat, Welcome to Preston. Given half a chance my wife would have us move back there!!! You wrote > I've just discovered that the County Record Office in Preston doesn't have the GRO index's > Where do I go to look at them? The simple reason is that they are available in the Harris Library in the town centre. Before family history became as popular as it is today, the Harris Library started to buy the film/fiche and so it continued to build its collection as and when money was available for the benefit of its users. The Lancashire Record office on the other hand is concerned with the preservation and conservation of records, rather than printed or duplicated material. When the two institutions became part of the same authority in 1972, it would have been seen as a waste of public money to duplicate this provision. This also happens in reverse in Manchester. The main Manchester Library, Manchester Central Library, has a big collection of local and family history material, but NOT the General Register Office Indexes - because the Greater Manchester Record Office has purchased them. Have a look at the Reference Library in the Harris Library, you will be surprised at its holdings. Hope this helps Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Molloy" <patrick@windflower.eclipse.co.uk> To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 12:12 PM Subject: GRO Indexs.

I'm sure this is a daft question, but I have just moved to Preston from the Midlands so you'll have to excuse a dumb Brummie. I've just discovered that the County Record Office in Preston doesn't have the GRO index's (which was a bit of a surprise). Where do I go to look at them? Pat.

Dear Listers, Is it possible anyone could check the 1871 census index for Preston please? I'm looking for William ARCHER who would be 8 years old. I'm keen to find out who his parents were. Here's the 1881 entry... Dwelling: 82 Ellen St Toffy Shop Census Place: Preston, Lancashire, England Source: FHL Film 1342013 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 4232 Folio 58 Page 7 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Agnes LAMBERT W 51 F Kellet, Lancashire, England Rel: Head Occ: Sweethouse Shop Keeper Rebecca LAMBERT U 30 F Caton, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur Occ: Charwoman Elizabeth SHARP W 61 F Poulton Le Fylde, Lancashire, England Rel: Boarder William ARCHER U 18 M Preston, Lancashire, England Rel: Boarder Occ: Loomer Cotton Elizabeth ARCHER U 20 F Preston, Lancashire, England Rel: Lodger Occ: Weaver Cotton Thank you for any help. Best regards, John Kane Sapcote, Leics. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.672 / Virus Database: 434 - Release Date: 28/04/2004

Is any list member researching or have interest in the surname IDDON from anywhere in the central Lancashire area? I would be pleased to compare notes. Regards Tom Iddon

Hi all, I've just subscribed to the list as I'm helping an elderly gentleman here in Australia. He has a marriage between Joseph WALKER and Esther HIGSON in St. John's Preston on 18 Feb 1824. The gentleman has no details on the birth or death of Joseph or Esther. He would also like to try and obtain their parents names. Can someone please point me in the right direction to assist him? Thank you Jackie Queensland Australia

My messages to the board dont seem to be getting through Here it is again Hello Listers Can SKP on the list help me by doing a look up on the land registers for robert brindle born 1786: walton le dale nr preston lancs he died 1816:walton le dale, I would really appreciate your help as I have never been able to get any further back with this family. Regards _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo

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My messages to the board dont seem to be getting through Here it is again Hello Listers Can SKP on the list help me by doing a look up on the land registers for robert brindle born 1786: walton le dale nr preston lancs he died 1816:walton le dale, I would really appreciate your help as I have never been able to get any further back with this family. Regards _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

Thanks to everyone who helped with my MARTIN lookup request! I now have masses of things to look into. Regards Granny Christine --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.670 / Virus Database: 432 - Release Date: 27/04/2004

Fellow genealogists, Have you ever used the Internet to learn about genealogy methods and resources? Taken a genealogy course online? Read some 'how to' articles? Then I would like to hear from you. I am an Australian Ph.D. student who is currently writing a book chapter for an academic Virtual Learning Environment publication - my chapter is about using the Internet for genealogical education. I would therefore love to hear from you, fellow genealogists, about any Internet-based content you've used for genealogy education. This includes online courses (free or fee), how-to's, articles/columns, newsgroups, BBS, chat, mailing lists, forums, or even personal web pages that publish learning material - anything online that helps you in learning the craft of genealogy. Your comments on the following is of utmost interest: What are your favourite learning outlets on the Internet? How often do you use them? Can or did you find what you needed online? What are your learning successes? What could be better? What do you look for in genealogical learning on the Internet? If you would like to participate, your comments are extremely welcome. Please send your comments to me directly at research@veale.com.au before Saturday 1st May 2004. I thank you in advance for your participation in this academic research. Kylie Veale P.S. Names and email addresses will be protected and are therefore not included in the publication. Copies of the paper will be made available to interested participants on request, after the book has been published. ----------------------------------------------- Kylie J. Veale | Brisbane, Australia GradDipInvEnv, MInetStds(Design) Provisional PhD candidate http://www.veale.com.au/kylie icq: 27938257 msn: kyliej@hotmail.com yahoo: kylie_veale

Hello List Members I have just joined the list and wonder if any members are researching the above names. My connection is through my g.g.grandparents: James CARTER b Preston c1805 married Mary GREENWOOD b Preston c1807. James enlisted with the 60th Regiment and was discharged in 1828. He married Mary in Preston in 1829. They, with four children Jane, John, Robert & James left for New Zealand in 1847 where he served as a "Fencible". My g.g.grandmother was born in New Zealand in 1849. I would be delighted to hear from any people who may be able to offer information on the CARTER or GREENWOOD families originating in Preston, or any relevant information that may be available. Regards Julie Watson Wellington New Zealand. jawatson@xtra.co.nz

My messages to the board dont seem to be getting through Here it is again Hello Listers Can SKP on the list help me by doing a look up on the 1871 for Chipping Nr.Preston Lancs I am looking for my late husbands family MARTIN In 1881 The Bottoms Chipping William MARTIN b. 1852 Chipping Jane MARTIN b. 1847 Sorbry Nancy Ellen MARTIN b. 1881 Chipping It is possible that William may still be at home with his parents in 1871 I would really appreciate your help as I have never been able to get any further back with this family. Regards Granny Christine --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.665 / Virus Database: 428 - Release Date: 21/04/2004

Hi Clinton Yes - I found that! Quite certain it is the right Robert. I had some information from the Records Office that didn't quite add up and wanted to check. Robert could be a relative though I have my doubts. But you never know! My Richmonds seem to all be from Goosnargh. Thank you for your efforts Sincerely Sally Hello Sally, Just some further information that may be of some help to you. The GRO reference from FreeBMD: Deaths: Robert Richmond Quarter: Mar 1881 Age: 79 Volume: 8e Page: 452 District: Preston Regards, Clinton -----Original Message----- From: Bell's [mailto:ve3prb@porchlight.ca] Sent: 21 April 2004 20:12 To: ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Look-up 1871 Census please - RICHMOND Thank you Clinton I appreciate that look-up. I think it solved my puzzle? It appears that they would be father and daughter. He must have died shortly before the 1881 Census. Unfortunately I now know that I have a different MARY. Or 2 Mary's to figure out Again many many thanks, you were a great help Sally There are just two people living at 33 Avenham Road: (Piece: R10-4204, Folio: 153, Page: 20, Schedule: 99.) Mary Richmond Relationship: dau Condition: Unm Age: 40 Occupation: Dress & Mantle Maker Where Born: Lancashire, Haighton Robert Richmond Relationship: Boarder Condition: Widr Age: 68 Occupation: Retired Farmer Where Born: Lancashire, Haighton ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Thank you Clinton I appreciate that look-up. I think it solved my puzzle? It appears that they would be father and daughter. He must have died shortly before the 1881 Census. Unfortunately I now know that I have a different MARY. Or 2 Mary's to figure out Again many many thanks, you were a great help Sally There are just two people living at 33 Avenham Road: (Piece: R10-4204, Folio: 153, Page: 20, Schedule: 99.) Mary Richmond Relationship: dau Condition: Unm Age: 40 Occupation: Dress & Mantle Maker Where Born: Lancashire, Haighton Robert Richmond Relationship: Boarder Condition: Widr Age: 68 Occupation: Retired Farmer Where Born: Lancashire, Haighton

Hello All Can anybody help with a loook-up of the 1871 Census for a ROBERT and MARY RICHMOND please. I have an address for them at 33 Avenham Rd - Preston Robert born abt 70yrs old. I would like to find out any other family members. Mary was supposed to be living here with her father July 1880 but the house is shown as "Uninhabited" in the 1881 Census. I would really appreciate any help Sincerely Sally