I'm hoping somebody might have more information on this gentleman and his family. His father appears to be a William MASON originally from Dent, North Riding, now Cumbria. His mother appears to be Jane somebody born in Dolphinholme. Much obliged, Norman, Dunedin, NZ. p.s. This is the most appropriate list isn't it?

On Monday 12 Jul 2004 20:35, Norman Gallop wrote: > I'm hoping somebody might have more information on this gentleman and his > family. His father appears to be a William MASON originally from Dent, > North Riding, now Cumbria. His mother appears to be Jane somebody born in > Dolphinholme. Hi Norman, Although I can't help directly with Anthony I would be interested in sharing information on your Mason Line. I'm descended from the Masons of Dent and I'm currently, albeit slowly, compiling all the information I can on those Mason families. My own Masons moved from Dent across to Windermere via Sedbergh and then down to Cheshire where my grandmother (a Mason) married my grandfather (a Morgan). It is my Morgan branch that lived in Preston. I was up at Dent just a month ago in order to visit the cemetery and the buildings where my Mason ancestors lived. The Mason family in Dent grew to be quite big and they lived in Dent as far back as I've been able to trace. I'm planning yet another trip up there in the near future when I will remember to take my camera in order to photograph the gravestones and other sites. I'll also be going over to Kendal and Leeds in order to do a lot of research. P.S. Dent was in the West Riding and not the North. -- Stuart Morgan http://www.tase.co.uk

Dent is some way from Preston I think - I have been there Liz >From: Norman Gallop <ennarrgee@clear.net.nz> >To: ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Anthony MASON b. 1819 Dolphinholme >Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 07:35:08 +1200 > >I'm hoping somebody might have more information on this gentleman and his >family. His father appears to be a William MASON originally from Dent, >North Riding, now Cumbria. His mother appears to be Jane somebody born in >Dolphinholme. > >Much obliged, Norman, Dunedin, NZ. > >p.s. This is the most appropriate list isn't it? > > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

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I have just received the death certificate for my husband's great-grandfather and wonder if anyone would help me with a query. His name was John Joll, he died 18 May 1931 whilst living at 123 Cherry Street, Blackburn. The informant was F.M. Walton, grand-daughter, living at the same address. I believe the electoral rolls are housed at the Blackburn Public Library. Would it be possible for someone to search these rolls to see who lived at this house in 1931, and possibly 1930 as a backup? I would also like to find out where John Joll was buried in the hopes of finding information about other members of his family. To that end would it be possible for someone to send the names of the municipal cemeteries in Blackburn so that I can contact them for further information? I am a member of the Alberta Family Histories Society and as such often help people with queries. Thank you. Lynda Alderman Bragg Creek, Alberta, Canada

Norman, If the answer about the correct list comes back positive, from our list members who know a lot more about the area than I do (I'm in Culpeper, VA, USA), you can subscribe yourself from this link: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-LANCS-PRESTON.html v/r, Beverly Alexander ----- Original Message ----- From: Norman Gallop To: ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-admin@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 7:48 PM Subject: Dolphinholme Would yours be the most suitable list to join in respect of the subject place? It's between Garstang and Morecambe just east of the M6 motorway near Forton Services. Thanks, Norman, Dunedin, NZ. ps. If the answer is yes can you subscribe me to your digest please?

In a message dated 10/07/2004 16:03:11 GMT Standard Time, ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: wonder if anyone can help solve a small mystery for me. I can connect the SINGLETON family with Broughton Tower from 1216 and they were buried in Broughton church until it became protestant at the time of the reformation (c.1530). Singletons are still being buried at St. John the Baptist,Broughton [I take it you mean Broughton near Preston] a church that has [probably] existed from the 12th century. I have printed copies of the burials of Broughton between 1653 and 1803 [as well as Bapts and marriages]. If you need any infomation from this period, you only need ask. A. Anderson

Hi, Nicola, You are looking for the marriage of WILLIAM TURNER and SARAH BALL, between 1900 and 1918. For a marriage to be legal in England and Wales, it must be registered under civil law. This civil registration came into force in July 1837, so if this marriage took place in E&W then there will be a civil record of it. There may also be a religious record somewhere else. The local Registrar has all the civil registers from 1837. Each quarter (i.e. at the end of March, June, etc.) he has to send details of all the marriages performed in his area in that quarter to the Registrar General in London. There they are transcribed into a national register and indexed. It is the index that is fairly widely available, whilst neither the original register nor the national register is available to the public. From 1837, there are quarterly indexes arranged in a strict alphabetical name order and the information you would see is in the form - June qtr 1876 Lancaster, James, Bury 8c 632 The index simply tells the clerk where to look to get the certificate. To order the certificate from the General Register Office you will NEED these details. To be reasonably certain that you have the correct reference you need to look for the spouse in the same quarter. If that reference is the same, the reference is probably to the marriage you want. From the beginning of 1912, each marriage entry also includes the name of the spouse, so the certainty becomes considerably greater. So how do you get at these indexes. The traditional way was to find a Mormon (LDS) Family History Centre. These centres either have a film/fiche copy of the General Register Office (GRO) Index or can obtain a copy for you. You then look through the copy, quarter by quarter, until you find a match. In your case, I would be tempted to work backwards from 1918 because of the availability of spouses' names in this later period. For a few years now, a group has been transcribing the indexes and making them available free on the internet. This project is known as FreeBMD. This project is still in progress and the years of interest may not yet be available. More recently, a company has scanned all the original indexes and made these available on the internet on a pay-to-view basis. All these three methods enable you to check the national indexes. There is a younger project that is transcribing the local Registrar's indexes and providing the local Registrar's reference number. The advantage of this is that the local Registrar's indexes are much closer (less transcriptions) to the original entries, making them inherently more accurate. The downside to this site is that being fairly new the present entries on this site are mainly in the 1800s and vary from Registrar to Registrar. You will be able to find further details of all these at www.ukbmd.org.uk Once you have found the index entry you will have to send for a copy of the certificate and again details of how to obtain certificates will be available on the UKBMD site. Hope this helps Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nic Apperley" <mumsfamilytree@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 4:34 AM Subject: Unidentified subject!

Hello to all, I am new to the list and I am hoping that someone may be able to help me with the above. Mary Sarah BOLDERSTON married Thomas HUGHES 24th. August 1840 in the Parish Church, PRESTON. Mary's father is given as Richard BOLDERSTON, Dancing Master, of Chaddock Street, PRESTON. Any information on him, or the BOLDERSTON family around that period would be very welcome. As a matter of interest, the witnesses at the wedding were Richard BALDERSTON (presumably Mary's brother) and Alice DUCKETT. Kind regards. Jean Garforth - HULL, ERY All mail protected by McAfee VirusScan

G'day List, Can anyone please see if they can find a marriage in Preston, not sure if church or registry office of a marriage between a WILLIAM TURNER and a SARAH BALL, year unknow but presume it was between 1900 and 1918. Sorry that is all the information I have, as not much is know about them. Cheers Nicola (Australia) _________________________________________________________________ SEEK: Now with over 50,000 dream jobs! Click here: http://ninemsn.seek.com.au?hotmail

Hi, Ruth, You asked about the SINGLETON family in the area to the north of Preston. This name is fairly widespread across the Catholic chapels of the Fylde. There are around 180 baptism entries in the Catholic Record Society (CRS) volumes 15 (1913) and 16 (1914). In the late 1700s, Hill Chapel, Goosnargh, has 20; there are 4 at Mowbreck; 25 at Salwick Hall: 6 at Westby;and 7 at Great Eccleston. There are others in the other four CRS volumes that have Lancashire registers. It is probable that the family name SINGLETON originates from the place name, and so there will be several (many?) starting members. This is certainly true of my own name which appears to start in many places. Hope this helps Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Appleby" <la.retraite@tiscali.fr> To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 7:42 PM Subject: Broughton Tower

Hi Everyone I wonder if anyone can help solve a small mystery for me. I can connect the SINGLETON family with Broughton Tower from 1216 and they were buried in Broughton church until it became protestant at the time of the reformation (c.1530). There are Singleton burials at Fernyhalgh after 1800, but does anyone have any idea where they are for the intervening period? Ruth Appleby Basse Normandie, France La.Retraite@tiscali.fr

Hi Ruth Just to say my RICH family also lived at Chingle Hall in late 1800,s Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Appleby" <la.retraite@tiscali.fr> To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 7:22 PM Subject: SINGLETON, HARDMAN and WALL > Hello everyone. I'm new to this list. > > I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has connections with the SINGLETON > and subsequently WALL families of Chingle Hall, and the WALL family of > Preston, all pre-1750. Also HARDMAN in Preston, Kirkham, and subsequently > Manchester pre-1800. > > Ruth Appleby > Basse Normandie, France > > La.Retraite@tiscali.fr > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 30/06/2004

Hello everyone. I'm new to this list. I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has connections with the SINGLETON and subsequently WALL families of Chingle Hall, and the WALL family of Preston, all pre-1750. Also HARDMAN in Preston, Kirkham, and subsequently Manchester pre-1800. Ruth Appleby Basse Normandie, France La.Retraite@tiscali.fr

Hi everyone Rob wrote > The 1901 UK cencus is available online for free. The address is > http://www.census.pro.gov.uk/index.html The census is not completely FREE When /if you find a person , you then need credit to open up the page for details including the address Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Curedale" <rcuredale@ccscad.edu> To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 11:04 PM Subject: Re: census searches > The 1901 UK cencus is available online for free. The address is > http://www.census.pro.gov.uk/index.html > > ______________________________ > > R o b C u r e d a l e > Professor, Chair Product Design > College for Creative Studies Detroit > 201 East Kirby > Detroit MI 48202-4034 > > Phone: 313 664 7625 > Fax: 313 664 7620 > email: rcuredale@ccscad.edu > http://www.ccscad.edu > ______________________________ > >>> "Peter & Ivy Heptinstall" <piheppy@netserv.net.au> 06/20/04 12:03 AM > >>> > I recently found a family of mine in Yorkshire in the 1881 census after > trawling through the address section. Their names were so badly misspelt > that I had no chance of finding them through the normal way. It has > taken me nearly 2 years to find these people. > I still can,t find them in the 1901 census using there correct names and > after various combinations no luck. How do I trawl through the address > section in the 1901 census without having to pay the British Goverment > hundreds of Quid? Any advise anyone? > Peter Heptinstall, Western Australia > PS Thats the name I am looking for so you can see how it gets misspelt. > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 18/06/2004

Hi Listers This is my first post here, and I am wondering if anyone has access to parish records for preston, circa 1800. I am looking for the marriage of John Askew to Eliza ? They had their first child that I know of in 1803 ( James) with 4 more to follow. If anyone could look this up for me I would really appreciate it. Thanks Julia Calgary Alberta Canada PS I did find a listing in the IGI for a John Askew married to an Eliza Askew in 1799 in St Mary's, Lancaster. I don't know if they put askew for her surname by mistake or whether the story in the family of two askews marrying is true. I would certainly appreciate someone looking this up if they are not found to be in Preston. Thanks again

The 1901 UK cencus is available online for free. The address is http://www.census.pro.gov.uk/index.html ______________________________ R o b C u r e d a l e Professor, Chair Product Design College for Creative Studies Detroit 201 East Kirby Detroit MI 48202-4034 Phone: 313 664 7625 Fax: 313 664 7620 email: rcuredale@ccscad.edu http://www.ccscad.edu ______________________________ >>> "Peter & Ivy Heptinstall" <piheppy@netserv.net.au> 06/20/04 12:03 AM >>> I recently found a family of mine in Yorkshire in the 1881 census after trawling through the address section. Their names were so badly misspelt that I had no chance of finding them through the normal way. It has taken me nearly 2 years to find these people. I still can,t find them in the 1901 census using there correct names and after various combinations no luck. How do I trawl through the address section in the 1901 census without having to pay the British Goverment hundreds of Quid? Any advise anyone? Peter Heptinstall, Western Australia PS Thats the name I am looking for so you can see how it gets misspelt. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Peter As you say, there is quite some liklihood that the name might well - in common with almost every other 'different' name - be misspelt, given the fact that the information was written and not typed in the original. I find, as a transcriber, that it pays to know the area and its many surnames; but the 1901 Census was not transcribed like that, so even quite reasonable handwriting can produce the weirdest results. I suppose that is the penalty for trying to get the 1901 out in the shortest possible time: it took ten years before the 1881 Index was produced. It might help if you were to give us the whole family as you know it. When were the members born? Would they have been of marriageable age at some time near the 1901 Census: if so then a date might be forthcoming from the certificate. Did any member die in that timescale - again a certificate would give a clue as to where they lived. This hobby is very much a detective one. It always pays to go out on a limb, and not to get too tied down with the census returns, I find. Hope this helps. Yorkshire was the largest county in area, and there would have been millions of people living there in 1901. Peter Shearan ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - sooooo many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

I recently found a family of mine in Yorkshire in the 1881 census after trawling through the address section. Their names were so badly misspelt that I had no chance of finding them through the normal way. It has taken me nearly 2 years to find these people. I still can,t find them in the 1901 census using there correct names and after various combinations no luck. How do I trawl through the address section in the 1901 census without having to pay the British Goverment hundreds of Quid? Any advise anyone? Peter Heptinstall, Western Australia PS Thats the name I am looking for so you can see how it gets misspelt.

I have three postcards in my possession that I would like to return to the decedents of the original owners. The cards are addressed to Miss Mariona Roscoe, Spring Bank, Ashton on Ribble, Preston. Dated 1903. The second card is to Miss Emma Lister, 41 Walnut Street, Southport. Dated 1910 The third is to Mrs Chapman, 59 Grange Street, Clayton, Le Moors?. Nr Accrington. This card is from daughter Edith and dated 1910. If anyone is interested in any of the cards please e-mail me at irene.eastburn@blueyonder.co.uk Regards Irene