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    1. Re: [LAN] Lancashire wills help please
    2. christine
    3. Thanks to everyone for all the help Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Go Go Gunners" <antonylambert@dialsquarea.wanadoo.co.uk> To: <LANCSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:08 AM Subject: Re: [LAN] Lancashire wills help please >I think that the last time I obtained a will from the LRO > for a client, it cost GBP 5 by post. > > Hope this helps ? > > > Good Luck: > > Antony Lambert; the Certificate Man. > > Certificates in 5 Days see: > > > www.certificates.fsnet.co.uk/certificates.htm or e-mail > antonylambert@certificates.fsnet.co.uk > > > ==== LANCSGEN Mailing List ==== > ~Keep e-mail short and succinct. When responding to a message, > SNIP, leaving just enough of that message so that other listers know > to what you are responding. > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.4 - Release Date: 25/01/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.4 - Release Date: 25/01/2005

    01/27/2005 09:39:33
    1. Lancashire wills
    2. christine
    3. Hi Whilst trying to track down the wills I found online I googled Amounderness +Deanery +Wills one site that came up was University of central Lancashire http://www.uclan.ac.uk/facs/class/humanities/family/Probate/richmond.htm here there is a mass of information and even an index of names shown in Richmond Probate Index An index of wills and related documents covering Lancashire north of the Ribble, and parts of Cumberland, Westmorland and Yorkshire, 1748-1858. and where copies can be obtained Thought it may help someone else Christine 1945

    01/26/2005 05:19:48
    1. Lancashire wills help please
    2. christine
    3. Hi Everyone I have found 2 family wills but I dont know how to obtain them with the details I have Can anyone help me please Christine 1945 Amounderness Deanery Wills, "Q-S"1811-1820 FHL British Film 99285 Amounderness RichHenryWoodplumpton, husbn. Amounderness 1817 Amounderness MartinJohnChipping, shopkeeper Ad. Amounderness 1819 Amounderness Deanery Wills, "L-P"1811-1820 FHL British Film 99284

    01/26/2005 04:27:51
    1. Re: ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-D Digest V05 #13
    2. Christine Write to: The Archivist Lancashire Records office Bow Lane Preston PR1 2RE 01772-263035 Fax: (01772) 263050 Anthony Anderson (BA Hons) Manchester, England In a message dated 27/01/2005 01:00:59 GMT Standard Time, ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: Hi Everyone I have found 2 family wills but I dont know how to obtain them with the details I have Can anyone help me please Christine 1945

    01/26/2005 03:55:06
    1. WEIR, de Vere, Wier, Wear, Ware, van de Vere, Vandiver Surname Project
    2. CATT
    3. This is for the male Weir family members, to find out to which Weir group they have come from in our World. Female Weir descendants do not pass on the Y Chromosome of their father, so cannot do the test. Their brothers and father or male cousins with the surname of Weir can contribute. However, the female descendants could contribute monetarily for one of their branch to have their DNA tested to aid the whole family group or branch. So get in touch with those male Weir cousins. > The Weir DNA Project > > Register here: > http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=F34568&special=true > The Male 37 marker test ($229) is the one that is most useful test for > our purposes. The most expensive test, the DNA male comprehensive ($369) is the best, of course, but does not seem absolutely necessary for this purpose. > The Y-chromosome DNA study is for males only who bear the name Weir, > Wier, Vere, de Vere, Ware, Wear, and any other variation and who (so > far as is known) are not descended from adoptees in the direct male line. > > A properly licensed lab will do the testing (through the mail) on a > small saliva sample (cotton swab)and provide the results to be posted > on the webpage; the subject's identity may or may not be withheld > (depending on their privacy concerns) but their Earliest Ancestors > will be listed and, where allowed, the full descent chart of the > subject, which may aid other participants. Weir cousins you might coax > into participating. If you have third cousins you know well enough to > ask, and of course through research you may know many more fourth, > fifth, and sixth cousins who are interested enough that some of them > probably would volunteer. The fee is about $230 at present. > > The study of the Y chromosome is to show the WEIR lineage in the male > line only, and this chromosome's rate of mutation allows for a fairly > accurate estimate of the degrees of relationship or a good guess at > the time period in which a common ancestor was shared. > The most important thing is that the results can tell you if you > definitely are UNrelated to the larger group (through the male line). > > Since there were McNairs who were said to have adopted the surname > Weir and also (according to one source) some Corras of Ireland who > anglicized their name to Weir, this would help to separate descendants > of those lines from the other Weirs. It should also tell us whether the Weirs and Veres of England are of common origin with the Weirs of Lanarkshire, Scotland, as well as the Van de Veres, Vandiveres and other etymologically similar names. > > We should expect that some Weir families probably will match up with > some of the clans to which Weirs were allied, or deemed a sept of, > such as McFarland, McNaughton, Buchannan. > There are larger databases to which the lab will compare our results > for any surprise matches. > > WEIR & WIER: The name is spelled both ways in Scotland. > Some Weirs of Perth, Scotland, changed their name from McNairs. Some > Wiers moved from Lanarkshire to Perth in the 1400s-1500s. > Other Wiers in Germany and the Netherlands may share a common origin > or may be an entirely different group. Our study may help delineate > those lines. > > The study would show whether or not Weirs of the tenant class in > Lanarkshire shared a common male ancestor with the other Weirs, > including lairds of Blackwood and Stonebyres and some of the other > landed families in Lanark. > The Y-chromosome test will not prove that they were totally UNrelated; > i.e., that they weren't related on a maternal line, as often occurred > in large clans that Maternal-line descendants took the clan name. > Other DNA studies in the future might be developed which will answer > that question. Hope-Veres, descendants of the legal heirs of > Blackwood, would not match up in the Y chromosome study, of course, > since they descended from a Weir heiress who married Charles Hope. > > There are some other chromosome studies which can test female and male > DNA, but it is not at the stage of advancement to make it helpful in a > wide-range study such as ours. > http://www.familytreedna.com/faq.html Here is a good example of a DNA project, the McCain DNA study. > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mccaindna/ > > http://www.familytreedna.com/surname.asp > > When you have joined the group, please send your pedigree chart to > Terry Burton (terry@bartonsite.org) in this format (very abbreviated): > > 1. Duncan Wier b. by 1490 at Perth, Scotland, d. Holland > 2. Rev. Malcolm Wier b. 1513-15 m. Lady Leslie, niece of George Wishart > 3. David Wier b. in Scotland, d. in Holland > 4. John Wier/Jan Vyer of Antwerp > 5. Dr. John Wier ("whose children returned to Scotland") > 6. John Wier m. ("1653", "1670"?) Janet Ferguson at Edinburgh; d. in > Ireland > 7. James Wier b. "1683" (or earlier?) m. Margaret Agnes O’Marra > 8. Thomas Wier b. "1708" (or later?) m. Elizabeth > Faulkner/Falkner/Falconer c1740-45 > 9. James Wier b. 1769 Ireland, d. Pickens Co., Alabama, m. Mary Hamilton > 10. James Wier b. 1802, d. 1885, bur. at Graysport, Grenada Co., > Miss., m. Elizabeth Evans > 11. Thomas Hamilton Wier b. 1830 (not 1836) m. Martha Ann Spears > 12. Thomas Francis (Frank) Weir (WEIR) m. Harriette (Hallie) Josephine > Angevine > > Generations 1-9 are from: THE WIER-BRITT GENEALOGY (1910) and TEN > TRIBES OF WIER (1933, 1938 & 1940) by William Swansea Wier. > Generations 7-11 are in THE WIER-CREEKMORE GENEALOGY (1944) by Sarah > E.C. Wallace and later books. Some dates seem questionable. > Back to Generation 6 is proven through old letters. W.S. Wier books > cite an old manuscript tracing Generation 6 back to Generation 3 and > states that Generation 3 was the son of Generation 2.

    01/25/2005 05:34:22
    1. Robert KIRBY marriage 1871 St John, Preston
    2. Vern Prescott
    3. Would SKS please check the following marriage in the St John Registers for me. I need to know Robert's father, if given and any witnesses. From IGI - ROBERT KIRBY Marriages: Spouse: HANNAH GUDGEON Marriage: 28 MAY 1871 Saint John, Preston, Lancashire, England Thanks Vern in Ontario

    01/24/2005 06:07:15
    1. Robins Family
    2. Marge Seif
    3. Was wondering if anyone has any information on Bartholomew M. Robins born about 1830-40 in the area of Cromwall and Devon? Any help or leads would be so helpful as I'm stuck at this time. My thanks. marge

    01/24/2005 05:53:44
    1. Robins family
    2. Marge Seif
    3. Curious as to the name of Bartholomew M. Robins...would this name be one in the towns of Cornwall or Devon? He could of been born around 1830-40. My thanks. marge

    01/24/2005 05:40:00
    1. info
    2. Marge Seif
    3. Was wondering if anybody had any information on Bartholomew M. Robins born in Cornwall or Devon area around 1830 - 1840. Anyone have access to the census for this person or his family??? Thanks for all your help. marge Salisbury, MD

    01/23/2005 12:54:20
    1. Re: New Subscriber DENT
    2. christine
    3. Hi 1901 finds Elizabeth M DENT married to George SANDERSON and in the house is her Step sister Ethel BALL aged 14 Ethel M Ball14 Preston, London, EnglandSister-in-law Penwortham Lancashire Annie L Sanderson2 Penwortham, London, EnglandDaughter Penwortham Lancashire Elizabeth M Sanderson28 Holborn, London, EnglandWife Penwortham Lancashire Fred Sanderson5 Preston, London, EnglandSon Penwortham Lancashire George Sanderson29 Penwortham, Lancashire, EnglandHead Penwortham Lancashire still no sign of Sarah J DENT single or married Christine 1901 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Hood" <philip@pjhood.freeserve.co.uk> To: "christine" <christine1945@blueyonder.co.uk> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 5:37 PM Subject: Re: New Subscriber > Hi Chris, > 1881 Census for 31 South Meadow Lane Preston. > > Head Jane Dent Widow 31 born Fleetwood Dressmaker > Elizabeth Mary Dent dau. 9 > Sarah Josephine Dent dau. 7 > > I believe that Sarah was certainly still alive/unmarried in 1894 as she > appears as a witness at Elizabeth's wedding. Elizabeth gives her address > as > Christchurch Preston at that time - don't know if that means Christchurch > street or just Christchurch area. I would guess that they were living in > either that area, or else still on South Meadow Lane. > Hope that you have some luck - it is greatly appreciated. > > Regards > > Philip > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 21/01/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 21/01/2005

    01/23/2005 10:55:47
    1. Re: DENTS
    2. christine
    3. Looks like this COULD be death of Jane(DENT) BALL Name: Ball, Jane Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 42 Quarter: March Year: 1892 District: Preston County: Lancashire Volume: 8e Page: 520 Christine 1945 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Hood" <philip@pjhood.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 1:03 PM Subject: DENTS > Many thanks to all who have welcomed me to the list, and your kind offers > of > help.I do have one mystery which someone might be able to help me solve. > Just as a bit of background, which might be of general interest (I hope!) > the problem goes back to the late 1800's. > My great grandmother Jane Lancaster b. Fleetwood 1849 married William > Joseph > Dent b. 1848 in Preston - he was the son of William Dent b.1812, who was > the > landlord of the New Bridge Inn on South Meadow Lane, Preston (I think it > is > called the Continental now? > Jane & William were married in Feb 1870 at St.James Preston, and Jane gave > birth to Emilie who was christened in June 1870 at St.John's Preston and > thus had been several months pregnant at the time of the marriage. > The next daughter- Elizabeth (my grandmother) was born down in London on > Holborn Hill at the Black Bull Inn (which features in Dickens' Martin > Chuzzlwit); she was christened down there in 1872. > After this, Jane and William returned to Preston leaving Emilie to be > brought up by her aunt (William's sister - also called Emily) - I presume > or suspect that this was because of the shame back then of having been in > the situation of having to get married. > Shortly after this William died in Preston at his brothers house on > Christchurch Street, having caught pneumonia - this was in August 1873. > Two months later Jane gave birth to her third daughter Sarah Josephine > Dent - who was christened at St.Johns Preston. > This gives us a very sad picture - Jane widowed at 24, having had to give > up > one daughter, ans stuggle to bring up two others alone in Preston. > In 1881, she shows up on the 1881 census living at 31 South Meadow Road, > working as a dressmaker with Elizabeth aged 9, and Sarah aged 7. > The difference between the lives of sisters Emilie and Elizabeth could not > have been more different - My grandmother, Elizabeth went to work in the > mills aged 12, and grew up to marry George Sanderson, and live in the > Lodge > in Avenham Park, whilst Emilie met and married the famous music hall actor > Bransby Williams, and live a live of considerable luxury. They did keep in > touch though, and Emilie visited Preston regularly. > Finally, we come to last main query - what happened to the third sister - > Sarah? I was totally unaware of her existence until I started my research. > My mother had never mentioned her, and my older cousin had never heard > mention of her. > If anyone could cast any light on this I would be delighted. Perhaps she > would show up on the 1891 census, or later. My only other possibility > would > be that she married, or died quite young. I feel that she might show up on > the registers of St. Johns as a marriage or a burial. > I hope that I have explained my problem succinctly, and not bored you all > too much! > Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Many thanks > > Philip Hood > Nottingham > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 21/01/2005 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 21/01/2005

    01/23/2005 10:39:10
    1. SARAH JOSEPHINE DENT
    2. pne.anne
    3. Hello again, Philip, I have found a marriage for Sarah Joseph Dent, on the Civil Registration Index, in the March Quarter, 1896 at Preston, to either Charles Lee Wildman or Thomas Francis Wood. I have looked for them on the 1901 Census, but can't seem to find them. Kind regards, Anne in Bolton.

    01/23/2005 10:22:31
    1. Re: DENTS
    2. christine
    3. Hi again Philip In 1901 Thomas and his son are boarders Preston in the household of a Jane ROBINSON Thomas Ball45 Hesketh bank, Lancashire, EnglandBoarder Preston Lancashire Thomas Henry Ball13 Preston, Lancashire, EnglandBoarder Preston Lancashire I cant find his wife Jane as yet do you think she had died? and his daughter Ethel M is missing as well as your DENT girls Christine 1945 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Hood" <philip@pjhood.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 1:03 PM Subject: DENTS > Many thanks to all who have welcomed me to the list, and your kind offers > of > help.I do have one mystery which someone might be able to help me solve. > Just as a bit of background, which might be of general interest (I hope!) > the problem goes back to the late 1800's. > My great grandmother Jane Lancaster b. Fleetwood 1849 married William > Joseph > Dent b. 1848 in Preston - he was the son of William Dent b.1812, who was > the > landlord of the New Bridge Inn on South Meadow Lane, Preston (I think it > is > called the Continental now? > Jane & William were married in Feb 1870 at St.James Preston, and Jane gave > birth to Emilie who was christened in June 1870 at St.John's Preston and > thus had been several months pregnant at the time of the marriage. > The next daughter- Elizabeth (my grandmother) was born down in London on > Holborn Hill at the Black Bull Inn (which features in Dickens' Martin > Chuzzlwit); she was christened down there in 1872. > After this, Jane and William returned to Preston leaving Emilie to be > brought up by her aunt (William's sister - also called Emily) - I presume > or suspect that this was because of the shame back then of having been in > the situation of having to get married. > Shortly after this William died in Preston at his brothers house on > Christchurch Street, having caught pneumonia - this was in August 1873. > Two months later Jane gave birth to her third daughter Sarah Josephine > Dent - who was christened at St.Johns Preston. > This gives us a very sad picture - Jane widowed at 24, having had to give > up > one daughter, ans stuggle to bring up two others alone in Preston. > In 1881, she shows up on the 1881 census living at 31 South Meadow Road, > working as a dressmaker with Elizabeth aged 9, and Sarah aged 7. > The difference between the lives of sisters Emilie and Elizabeth could not > have been more different - My grandmother, Elizabeth went to work in the > mills aged 12, and grew up to marry George Sanderson, and live in the > Lodge > in Avenham Park, whilst Emilie met and married the famous music hall actor > Bransby Williams, and live a live of considerable luxury. They did keep in > touch though, and Emilie visited Preston regularly. > Finally, we come to last main query - what happened to the third sister - > Sarah? I was totally unaware of her existence until I started my research. > My mother had never mentioned her, and my older cousin had never heard > mention of her. > If anyone could cast any light on this I would be delighted. Perhaps she > would show up on the 1891 census, or later. My only other possibility > would > be that she married, or died quite young. I feel that she might show up on > the registers of St. Johns as a marriage or a burial. > I hope that I have explained my problem succinctly, and not bored you all > too much! > Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Many thanks > > Philip Hood > Nottingham > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 21/01/2005 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 21/01/2005

    01/23/2005 10:20:37
    1. DENTS
    2. pne.anne
    3. Hello Philip, Could this be the Sarah you are looking for. RG 12/3428 Folio 16 1891 Penwortham Hill, Penwortham Thomas Ball head marr. 35 Hesketh Bank Jane Ball wife marr. 41 Dressmaker Fleetwood Ethel M. Ball d. 4 Preston Thomas H. Ball 3 Preston Elizabeth M. Dent step dau. 19 Cotton winder London Middx. Sarah J. Dent step. dau. 17 Machinist Preston. Kind regards, Anne in Bolton, Lancs.

    01/23/2005 10:06:10
    1. Re: DENTS
    2. christine
    3. Hi Philip It looks like Jane remarried 1891 census for Preston (Penwortham) Elizabeth M DENT is shown as Step daughter so is Sarah J DENT step daughter They are in the household of Thomas BALL there is Jane BALL wife born Fleetwood also a son and a daughter BALL Image sent Christine 1945 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Hood" <philip@pjhood.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 1:03 PM Subject: DENTS > Many thanks to all who have welcomed me to the list, and your kind offers > of > help.I do have one mystery which someone might be able to help me solve. > Just as a bit of background, which might be of general interest (I hope!) > the problem goes back to the late 1800's. > My great grandmother Jane Lancaster b. Fleetwood 1849 married William > Joseph > Dent b. 1848 in Preston - he was the son of William Dent b.1812, who was > the > landlord of the New Bridge Inn on South Meadow Lane, Preston (I think it > is > called the Continental now? > Jane & William were married in Feb 1870 at St.James Preston, and Jane gave > birth to Emilie who was christened in June 1870 at St.John's Preston and > thus had been several months pregnant at the time of the marriage. > The next daughter- Elizabeth (my grandmother) was born down in London on > Holborn Hill at the Black Bull Inn (which features in Dickens' Martin > Chuzzlwit); she was christened down there in 1872. > After this, Jane and William returned to Preston leaving Emilie to be > brought up by her aunt (William's sister - also called Emily) - I presume > or suspect that this was because of the shame back then of having been in > the situation of having to get married. > Shortly after this William died in Preston at his brothers house on > Christchurch Street, having caught pneumonia - this was in August 1873. > Two months later Jane gave birth to her third daughter Sarah Josephine > Dent - who was christened at St.Johns Preston. > This gives us a very sad picture - Jane widowed at 24, having had to give > up > one daughter, ans stuggle to bring up two others alone in Preston. > In 1881, she shows up on the 1881 census living at 31 South Meadow Road, > working as a dressmaker with Elizabeth aged 9, and Sarah aged 7. > The difference between the lives of sisters Emilie and Elizabeth could not > have been more different - My grandmother, Elizabeth went to work in the > mills aged 12, and grew up to marry George Sanderson, and live in the > Lodge > in Avenham Park, whilst Emilie met and married the famous music hall actor > Bransby Williams, and live a live of considerable luxury. They did keep in > touch though, and Emilie visited Preston regularly. > Finally, we come to last main query - what happened to the third sister - > Sarah? I was totally unaware of her existence until I started my research. > My mother had never mentioned her, and my older cousin had never heard > mention of her. > If anyone could cast any light on this I would be delighted. Perhaps she > would show up on the 1891 census, or later. My only other possibility > would > be that she married, or died quite young. I feel that she might show up on > the registers of St. Johns as a marriage or a burial. > I hope that I have explained my problem succinctly, and not bored you all > too much! > Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Many thanks > > Philip Hood > Nottingham > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 21/01/2005 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 21/01/2005

    01/23/2005 09:49:23
    1. DENTS
    2. Philip Hood
    3. Many thanks to all who have welcomed me to the list, and your kind offers of help.I do have one mystery which someone might be able to help me solve. Just as a bit of background, which might be of general interest (I hope!) the problem goes back to the late 1800's. My great grandmother Jane Lancaster b. Fleetwood 1849 married William Joseph Dent b. 1848 in Preston - he was the son of William Dent b.1812, who was the landlord of the New Bridge Inn on South Meadow Lane, Preston (I think it is called the Continental now? Jane & William were married in Feb 1870 at St.James Preston, and Jane gave birth to Emilie who was christened in June 1870 at St.John's Preston and thus had been several months pregnant at the time of the marriage. The next daughter- Elizabeth (my grandmother) was born down in London on Holborn Hill at the Black Bull Inn (which features in Dickens' Martin Chuzzlwit); she was christened down there in 1872. After this, Jane and William returned to Preston leaving Emilie to be brought up by her aunt (William's sister - also called Emily) - I presume or suspect that this was because of the shame back then of having been in the situation of having to get married. Shortly after this William died in Preston at his brothers house on Christchurch Street, having caught pneumonia - this was in August 1873. Two months later Jane gave birth to her third daughter Sarah Josephine Dent - who was christened at St.Johns Preston. This gives us a very sad picture - Jane widowed at 24, having had to give up one daughter, ans stuggle to bring up two others alone in Preston. In 1881, she shows up on the 1881 census living at 31 South Meadow Road, working as a dressmaker with Elizabeth aged 9, and Sarah aged 7. The difference between the lives of sisters Emilie and Elizabeth could not have been more different - My grandmother, Elizabeth went to work in the mills aged 12, and grew up to marry George Sanderson, and live in the Lodge in Avenham Park, whilst Emilie met and married the famous music hall actor Bransby Williams, and live a live of considerable luxury. They did keep in touch though, and Emilie visited Preston regularly. Finally, we come to last main query - what happened to the third sister - Sarah? I was totally unaware of her existence until I started my research. My mother had never mentioned her, and my older cousin had never heard mention of her. If anyone could cast any light on this I would be delighted. Perhaps she would show up on the 1891 census, or later. My only other possibility would be that she married, or died quite young. I feel that she might show up on the registers of St. Johns as a marriage or a burial. I hope that I have explained my problem succinctly, and not bored you all too much! Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks Philip Hood Nottingham

    01/23/2005 06:03:20
    1. Re: New Subscriber
    2. Philip Hood
    3. Hi Liz, Many thanks for your email. I used to work on Gregory Boulevard when I first left school, at the Natwest Bank close to the URC church. That was back in the 1960's - I think that the URC was still called the Congregational Church in those days. My family were Congregationalists, and by amazing coincidence, my own gt gt grandfather Jesse Hood, a wheelwright, founded the URC in Adlington near Chorley. His name is commemmorated in the stained glass windows down the side. Sadly I have not been able to locate any photographs of him though. I presume that you have visited the URC in Nottingham - if not I will gladly take some photo's and email them on to you. Regards Philip Hood

    01/23/2005 05:25:24
    1. Re: New Subscriber
    2. Philip Hood
    3. Hi Chris, Many thanks for your welcome - I was just wondering if other subscribers had seen the Mitchell & Kenyon program last night - I was delighted to see the huge crowds egg - rolling in Avenham Park. It was of particular interest to me as my grandfather George Sanderson was the Park Superintendent there and my mother and her family grew up in the lodge by the ornamental water gardens there. Having seen how close the lodge is to the railway line, I don't know how they managed to sleep though! By coincidence my other grandfather Joseph Hood was the station-master at Preston around that time. Needless to say, I could not spot my grandfather in the crowd; I am most envious of the people who have been able to see their ancestors 'brought back to life' by these wonderful films. Regards Philip Hood Nottingham

    01/22/2005 12:54:36
    1. Re: New Subscriber
    2. christine
    3. Hi Philip welcome to list can we help with anything? Chris 1945 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Hood" <philip@pjhood.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 7:03 PM Subject: New Subscriber > Only just found this mailing list - I did not realise that such lists > existed - assumed that they only covered entire counties. > Anyway - my name is Philip Hood, and I am interested in my Preston > forebears - HOOD, SANDERSON, DENT & GIBBON. > > Regards > > Philip Hood > Nottingham > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 21/01/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 21/01/2005

    01/22/2005 12:16:30
    1. New Subscriber
    2. Philip Hood
    3. Only just found this mailing list - I did not realise that such lists existed - assumed that they only covered entire counties. Anyway - my name is Philip Hood, and I am interested in my Preston forebears - HOOD, SANDERSON, DENT & GIBBON. Regards Philip Hood Nottingham

    01/22/2005 12:03:07