Hello Listers, I am a newbie to this list from Australia.I would like contact with anyone researching James Tattersall marr.Tabitha Kay 1790 at Bury, St Mary,Lancs. Know dau Nancy b. Haslington May 1811,two other children known Tabitha b.1797 Holcombe , Henry b,1820. Henry was Sent to Aust. Grateful for any information. Thank you, Michael

A big heartfelt thanks to those wonderful people who helped transcribe the will of William Smith. Blessings Laura -:¦:- Please see my website below for info on this intersting Elusive Lancashire Lad with a Lost Past... who made good... in the Good Country... Penrith New South Wales...Australia...· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) Webpage www.thorntonhall.homestead.com ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ Laura Player ~ Perth ~ Western Australia -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

Laura I'll try Eric <<I have a copy of a will from online GRO.... year 1827.. I have tried to transcribe it but I have about 40 words I can't fathom... Can any one help >>

oldcrone@sympatico.ca wrote snip> I have tried to find a marriage for a Charles English & Elizah to no avail! <1871 Elizah, aged 15, born Lambeth. Charlotte, age 9, & > Harry, aged 7, were born in Marylebone> Hi Charlottes birth would give mothers maiden name Name: ENGLISH, Charlotte Record Type: Births Quarter: September Year: 1861 District: Marylebone (1837-1901) County: London Middlesex Volume: 1a Page: 432 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Marshall" <oldcrone@sympatico.ca> To: "christine" <christine1945@blueyonder.co.uk>; <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 4:13 PM Subject: Re: New member-English > Hi Christine, > Many thanks for the welcome! > I have also had a reply from Lynn with the same info and below is my > response to her (as well as you!) > Pat > > Hi Lynn, > I don't think that this guy is mine because on the 1881 census, it says > Charles was 23, born in Southampton, so I had a friend do an 1871 lookup > for > a Charles aged about 3, born in Southampton and she found a Charles with > wife Elizah and son Charles, age 13, born Southampton. > I believe it was the only Charles the right age that was born in > Southampton. > I have tried to find a marriage for a Charles English & Elizah to no > avail! > Elizah was born Liverpool, according to 1871 census and Charles Sr. was > born > in Preston, Lancs. > As near as I can figure, by the ages of the four children on the 1871 > census, they would have been married 1856 or earlier. The oldest child on > the 1871 census was Elizah, aged 15, born Lambeth. Charlotte, age 9, & > Harry, aged 7, were born in Marylebone, according to the 1871 census. > I have the marriage certificate for Charles English & Caroline Holley and > will shortly order the birth certificates for both to make sure the > Preston > family I am chasing is the correct one! > Many thanks for the response. > Pat > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/2005

oldcrone@sympatico.ca wrote > I have on the 1871 census, Charles English, age 50, born Preston, Lancs Hi Welcome to the list Could this be a possible for Charles? CHARLES ENGLISH Christening: 12 AUG 1819 Saint John, Preston, Lancashire, England Parents: Father: CHARLES ENGLISH Mother: KITTY Christine 1945 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Marshall" <oldcrone@sympatico.ca> To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:25 PM Subject: New member-English > From: "Harold Marshall" <oldcrone@sympatico.ca> > To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: New member researching ENGLISH > Date: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:22 AM > > Hi, > My name is Pat and I am from Ontario, Canada. > I am trying to obtain information on the surname ENGLISH from the Preston > area. > I have on the 1871 census, Charles English, age 50, born Preston, Lancs > and > his wife Elizah, age 41, born Liverpool, along with children Elizah, 15, > born Lambeth; Chas, 13, born Southampton;Charlotte, 9, born Marylebone & > Harry, 7, born Marylebone. > Charles English Jr., married a Caroline Holley. > If anyone knows who this Charles might be the progeny of or who his wife > Elizah might be, I would dearly love to hear from them! > Pat Marshall > Stirling, Ontario > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/2005

Hi Christine, Many thanks for the welcome! I have also had a reply from Lynn with the same info and below is my response to her (as well as you!) Pat Hi Lynn, I don't think that this guy is mine because on the 1881 census, it says Charles was 23, born in Southampton, so I had a friend do an 1871 lookup for a Charles aged about 3, born in Southampton and she found a Charles with wife Elizah and son Charles, age 13, born Southampton. I believe it was the only Charles the right age that was born in Southampton. I have tried to find a marriage for a Charles English & Elizah to no avail! Elizah was born Liverpool, according to 1871 census and Charles Sr. was born in Preston, Lancs. As near as I can figure, by the ages of the four children on the 1871 census, they would have been married 1856 or earlier. The oldest child on the 1871 census was Elizah, aged 15, born Lambeth. Charlotte, age 9, & Harry, aged 7, were born in Marylebone, according to the 1871 census. I have the marriage certificate for Charles English & Caroline Holley and will shortly order the birth certificates for both to make sure the Preston family I am chasing is the correct one! Many thanks for the response. Pat

Hello List, I have a copy of a will from online GRO.... year 1827.. I have tried to transcribe it but I have about 40 words I can't fathom... Can any one help if they have some time & talent. I can send it off list as an attachment with my version... both scanned by Norton Anti Virus -Corporate Edition. ..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ Laura Player ~ Perth ~ Western Australia -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* Webpage www.thorntonhall.homestead.com

From: "Harold Marshall" <oldcrone@sympatico.ca> To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: New member researching ENGLISH Date: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:22 AM Hi, My name is Pat and I am from Ontario, Canada. I am trying to obtain information on the surname ENGLISH from the Preston area. I have on the 1871 census, Charles English, age 50, born Preston, Lancs and his wife Elizah, age 41, born Liverpool, along with children Elizah, 15, born Lambeth; Chas, 13, born Southampton;Charlotte, 9, born Marylebone & Harry, 7, born Marylebone. Charles English Jr., married a Caroline Holley. If anyone knows who this Charles might be the progeny of or who his wife Elizah might be, I would dearly love to hear from them! Pat Marshall Stirling, Ontario

> Hi Listers > Has anyone ever come across this name in the Bartle/Woodplumton area? > I have a George NAYOR on a document dated 1817 > Would love to hear from you > Christine 1945 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 11/03/2005

Hello to all, In the 1841 Census my 3 x G Grandfather, Richard BALDERSTON, was living at CHADDOCK Street, Preston. I am given to understand that CHADDOCK Street is still in existence. My question is, would the present houses have been in existence in 1841? I was informed that it is a street of terraced houses but does anyone know how old they are? Any information would be gratefully received. Kind regards Jean Garforth All mail protected by McAfee VirusScan ____________________________________________________________________________ This email and all attachments have been electronically scanned by Kingston Communications' email Anti-Virus service and no known viruses were detected. ____________________________________________________________________________

Hi Laura, Send it along to me. I would be happy to give it a try. I have transcribed quite a few wills and enjoy the challenge. Suzanne Mississauga, Ontario laura wrote: > Hello List, > I have a copy of a will from online GRO.... year 1827.. I have tried > to transcribe it but I have about 40 words I can't fathom... Can any > one help if they have some time & talent. I can send it off list as an > attachment with my version... both scanned by Norton Anti Virus > -Corporate Edition. > > ..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- > ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) > ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ Laura Player ~ Perth ~ Western Australia -:¦:- > -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* Webpage www.thorntonhall.homestead.com > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hello I am trying to trace the death of John BARNFATHER who married 27 July 1781 Jane DALTON at St Cuthberts Carlisle. They had 4 Children Joseph 1785 Catherine 1786 both born Preston and John 1787 and William 1788 both at Chorley. the family remained in Preston but grand children went to Poulton Le Fylde and had a large family. Thanks Carl & Mark Barnfather

> > >Amongst our family "papers" is a marriage certificate between Mary EACHWORTH & John BARNES in 1868 (not researching BARNES at this point). They are my great grandparents and from that certificate and facts known to me about Mary I now have obtained copies of the birth certificates of Mary, born in Blackburn Jan. 15, 1849, and her brother William, born in Cuerden March 30, 1846, however the names are shown as EATESWORTH in both cases, not EACHWORTH. I wish to take it back further and find the marriage certificate between Mary & William's father Thomas EATESWORTH and their mother Agnes LAW(E) or perhaps birth certificates for Thomas and Agnes (or would that be jumping too soon)? My research which began as EACHWORTH is now EATESWORTH and I am thinking that this name is not rock solid either and could be leading to EASTWOOD or EDGEWORTH, for instance. Where do I go from here with look ups? > Hi Margaret, I found the following through my Ancestry.com subscription. I don't have much to offer as far as searching for a dynamically-changing surname but I did find birth, death and census info on your ancestors from the information you provided. England and Wales, Civil Registration Index: 1837-1983 Description: "On 1 July 1837 a civil registration system for births, marriages and deaths was introduced in England and Wales. Registration was undertaken by civil registrars who reported to the Registrar General at the General Register Office (GRO) in London, now part of the Office for National Statistics (ONS). Copies of anyone's birth, marriage or death certificates can be obtained by the public. They are vital to family historians because of the genealogical information that they include." (Mark D. Herber, Ancestral Trails, Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 1998) Since the original birth, marriage and death registers are not open to the public, getting access to the information on one of these certificates is done by first searching the national birth, marriage and death indexes, that have been created by the GRO for this purpose. The indexes for the three events are each divided into quarterly volumes, with the names for each quarter listed alphabetically. Once an entry in one of the indexes is found, you are then able to use that information to order of copy of a death, marriage or birth certificate from the GRO/ONS. The other information that can be obtained from the index includes: year, record type, quarter (March, June, September, and December), district (each county in England and Wales was divided up into registration districts), volume, and page number. Note: names were entered into the volume of the quarter in which notification of the event was received, not necessarily the quarter in which the event actually occurred. Extended Description: The massive task of digitising and, making searchable, the names contained in the GRO indexes has been underway for a few years now. This database is made available to Ancestry.com users, courtesy of the volunteers of the FreeBMD organization. The leadership of FreeBMD have organized the permissions and tools necessary to enable hundreds of volunteers to convert to electronic text, and publish online, searchable indexes to the civil registrations in England and Wales. FreeBMD, has already indexed more than 62 million names between the years of 1837 and 1983, and more names continue to be added everyday. Ancestry will add to this database as FreeBMD provides more names. It is estimated that more than 50% of the names between 1837 and 1900 have been indexed. Because of the nature of the index you will note that not all of the fields have been indexed all of the time. Until 1866, most of the indexes were handwritten, making the task of conversion sometimes difficult. Source Information: FreeBMD. England and Wales, Civil Registration Index: 1837-1983 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: Microfilm and microfiche of the England and Wales, Civil Registration Indexes created by the General Register Office, in London, England. © Crown copyright. Published by permission of the Controller of HMSO and the Office for National Statistics. You must not copy on, transfer or reproduce records without the prior permission of ONS. Database Copyright © 1998-2003 Graham Hart, Ben Laurie, Camilla von Massenbach and David Mayall. ------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Eatesworth, Mary Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1849 District: Blackburn * County: Lancashire Volume: 21 Page: 28 (click to see others on page) *Blackburn Created 1st July 1837. Sub-districts : Billington; Blackburn; Blackburn Northern; Blackburn South Eastern; Blackburn South Western; Darwen; Hawwood; Mellor; Oswaldtwistle; Witton. GRO volumes : XXI (1837-51); 8e (1852-1930). Billington, Blackburn, Church, Clayton le Dale, Clayton le Moors, Darwen, Dinckley, Eccleshill, Great Harwood, Little Harwood, Livesey, Lower Darwen, Mellor, Osbaldeston, Oswaldtwistle, Over Darwen, Pleasington, Ramsgreave, Rishton, Salesbury, Tockholes, Wilpshire, Witton, Yate and Pickup Bank. Registers now divided between Blackburn with Darwen, Hyndburn & Rossendale and Ribble Valley districts. ------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Eatesworth, William Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1846 District: Chorley * County: Lancashire Volume: 21 Page: 449 (click to see others on page) *Chorley Created 1st July 1837. Sub-districts : Brindle; Chorley; Croston; Leyland; Rivington. GRO volumes : XXI (1837-51); 8e (1852-1930). Adlington, Anderton, Anglezarke, Bretherton, Brindle, Charnock Richard, Chorley, Clayton le Woods, Coppull, Croston, Cuerdon, Duxbury, Eccleston, Euxton, Heapey, Heath Charnock, Heskin, Hoghton, Leyland, Mawdesley, Rivington, Ulnes Walton, Welsh Whittle, Wheelton, Whittle le Woods, Withnell. Registers now in Chorley district. ------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Eachworth, Mary Record Type: Marriages Quarter: June Year: 1868 District: Manchester (1837-1924) * County: Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 599 (click to see others on page) *Manchester Created 1st July 1837. Abolished 1st January 1925 (incorporated into Manchester North district). Sub-districts : Ancoats; Blackley; Central; Cheetham; Deansgate; Failsworth; London Road; Market Street; Newton; Prestwich; St. George. GRO volumes : XX (1837-51); 8d (1852-1924). Beswick (1837-74), Blackley (1837-74), Bradford (1837-74), Cheetham (1837-74), Clayton (1837-74), Crumpsall (1837-74), Failsworth (1837-74), Great Heaton (1837-74), Harpurhey (1837-74), Little Heaton (1837-74), Manchester, Moston (1837-74), Newton (1837-74), Prestwich (1837-74). Registers now divided between Manchester, Oldham, Bury and Bolton districts. ------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Eachworth, William Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 51 Quarter: June Year: 1898 District: Chorlton * County: Lancashire Volume: 8c Page: 456 (click to see others on page) *Chorlton Created 1st July 1837. Abolished 1st January 1925 (renamed Manchester South). Sub-districts : Ardwick; Barton; Chorlton upon Medlock; Didsbury; Hulme; Stretford. GRO volumes : XX (1837-51); 8c (1852-1924). Ardwick, Barton Moss (1837-49), Barton upon Irwell (1837-49), Burnage, Chorlton cum Hardy, Chorlton on Medlock, Davyhulme (1837-49), Didsbury, Flixton (1837-49), Gorton, Hulme, Irlam (1837-49), Levenshulme, Moss Side, Openshaw, Rusholme, Stretford (1837-49), Urmston (1837-49), West Gorton, Withington. Registers now divided between Manchester, Salford and Trafford districts. 1881 England Census <http://www.ancestry.com/search/srrd.asp?rd=db&dbid=7572> Name: William Eachworth Age in 1881: 34 Age months: 0 Estimated birth year: abt 1847 Relationship to head-of-household: Boarder Household: View other family members Family and neighbors: View neighbors Gender: Male Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England Address: 1 Magdala St Civil parish: Manchester County/Island: Lancashire Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Cotton Spinner Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Source information: RG11/4013 Registration district: Prestwich Sub-registration district: Newton ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Folio: 96 Page: 10 William is living with John and Mary Barnes and their children. He's listed as a boarder rather than brother-in-law. He's also listed as married but there is no wife to be seen on the census record. If you'd like a copy of this census page, let me know! I know this probably doesn't give you any new information. I hope the source info helps further your research, though. Good luck! Regards, Terri McDonald Hauk t.hauk@comcast.net

Hello All I'm hoping someone will know the answer to this question. Is there a central place where passports were issued? My gr grandmother had her sisters visit her in Massachusetts on two occasions. In 1903 they came from Lancashire and in 1913 they came again but lived in Earby. Would anyone know how I could get a copy of a passport (hopefully with photo on it)? Were they issued locally, in London, and how much would it cost to get copies of these documents? Any assistance would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks Pam Brooklyn NY USA

Hello All I thought I would repost my main surname interests. All are from Preston unless otherwise stated. HARRISON ( Bretherton/ Croston pre 1840) THOMPSON BRADLEY HALL ( Blackburn pre 1840) NICK(X)SON HOLDING ( Brindle/ Wheelton pre 1885 ) WALMSLEY as above FLETCHER ( Houghton pre 1850 then Padiham/Burnley after 1871) KITCHEN LEWTY FAZACKERLEY Other surnames that have cropped up by marriage/ remarriage are: AIREY, BAINES, ASPINWALL, HEYES, SWINDLEHURST, STANDING, CHARNLEY, CARR, FISHWICK, HOGARTH & WILKINSON. There are others put thats plenty to be going on with. If anyone has these in their families let me know. regards paul harrison

If anyone has access to parish records for WIGAN I should appreciate a marriage look up please. I am trying to find the marriage of: THOMAS FAIRCLOUGH to MARY ........? In Wigan probably abt 1848. Thomas would be about 22 years old. If this is not the correct list could someone point me in the right direction. Thank you Jenny -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 11/03/2005

Probably Liverpool. -----Original Message----- From: laura [mailto:player@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 1:20 PM To: ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Sailing from Poulton-le-fylde area Hello list, Would anyone know which port a person would have sailed from in 1839... if they lived around Thornton-Fleetwood area... & their destination was to Australia. Cheers Laura ..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ Laura Player ~ Perth ~ Western Australia -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* Webpage www.thorntonhall.homestead.com ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

I have come across a number of references to members of my small family in the Preston Guild Rolls. Members were active from the 1500 to the 1700s in the Preston Guild. Are there any good information sources beyond the Rolls for information on Guild members such as their business activities? One of my family was an Alderman of the Guild around 1620. Rob Curedale

Hi Jenny : Try These. You searched for: Thomas Fairclough [refine search] Marriage, 1843 - 1853, England Exact Spelling: Off Matches: All Sources - 8 Ancestral File 1. Thomas FAIRCLOUGH - Ancestral File Gender: M Marriage: 6 Nov 1843 St Michael's, Huyton, Lancashire, England Matches: Ancestral File - 1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- International Genealogical Index - British Isles 2. THOMAS FAIRCLOUGH - International Genealogical Index / BI Gender: Male Marriage: 06 NOV 1843 Huyton By, Roby, Lancashire, England 3. THOMAS FAIRCLOUGH - International Genealogical Index / BI Gender: Male Marriage: 12 FEB 1843 Saint Mary, Blackburn, Lancashire, England 4. THOMAS FAIRCLOUGH - International Genealogical Index / BI Gender: Male Marriage: 25 DEC 1843 Preston, Lancashire, England 5. THOMAS FAIRCLOUGH - International Genealogical Index / BI Gender: Male Marriage: 12 JAN 1845 Saint James, Didsbury, Lancashire, England 6. Thomas Fairclough - International Genealogical Index / BI Gender: Male Marriage: 1846 Wigan, Lancashire, England 7. THOMAS FAIRCLOUGH - International Genealogical Index / BI Gender: Male Marriage: 25 FEB 1850 Saint George, Chorley, Lancashire, England 8. THOMAS FAIRCLOUGH - International Genealogical Index / BI Gender: Male Marriage: 09 FEB 1851 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England Matches: International Genealogical Index/British Isles - 7 Return to http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp Don Kruszyna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny White" <jennywhite.jw1950@virgin.net> To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 9:56 AM Subject: Marriage look up for THOMAS FAIRCLOUGH > If anyone has access to parish records for WIGAN I should appreciate a > marriage look up please. > > I am trying to find the marriage of: > > THOMAS FAIRCLOUGH to MARY ........? In Wigan probably abt 1848. Thomas > would be about 22 years old. > > If this is not the correct list could someone point me in the right > direction. > > Thank you > > Jenny > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 11/03/2005 > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl & Mark" <mark.barnfather@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:40 PM > Hello > > I am trying to trace the death of John BARNFATHER who married 27 July 1781 > Jane DALTON at St Cuthberts Carlisle. They had 4 Children Joseph 1785 > Catherine 1786 both born Preston and John 1787 and William 1788 both at > Chorley. the family remained in Preston but grand children went to > Poulton Le Fylde and had a large family. > > Thanks Carl & Mark Barnfather > >