Reposting interests BRADLEY Francis Charles born 1858/9 BRADLEY George born 1/11/1892 Lou

My ancestors, Thomas MARE (MAYOR) and Catherine BOWSKILL married in Preston Parish Church on 9th June 1766, by banns. The witnesses were Henry BARNES and Thos. CLARKSON. Thomas MARE said he was a weaver. Their (known) children were: 1) James, born 16 Sep and bap. 12 Oct 1766 Preston, St. John. James was a woollen draper, hosier, & property owner & married Ellen CROFT of Lancaster 23 June 1800. 2) Ann, bap. 18 March 1768 Preston, St. John. Married Thomas WHITTINGHAM 17 July 1791. 3) William, bap. 6 May 1770 and buried 25 May 1771, Preston. 4) Ellen, bap. 26 April 1772 Preston, St. John. Married Robert PENNINGTON 4 March 1802 in Liverpool, St. Nicholas. 5) Thomas, born 6 April 1775 and bap. 1 May 1775, Preston St.John. (My ancestor). He married, firstly, Julia NIGHTINGALE, then after her death went to Northumberland, where he married Mary WALKER at Berwick-on-Tweed in 1815. 6) William, born 28 April 1776 and bap. 19 May 1776, Preston St. John. Known to be alive in 1784. No further information. 7) Bella or Isabel, born 29 Nov and bap. 25 Dec 177, Preston St. John. Known to be alive in 1785. No further information. 8) Joseph, born 11 Nov and Bap. 12 Dec 1781, Preston St. John. Known to be alive 1785. No further information. 9) Catherine, bap. 21 March 1784, Preston St. John. Died unmarried in Preston on 19 January 1844. Her will described her as "formerly of Salford". The Thomas MAYOR/MARE who married in 1766, was buried in Preston St. John churchyard on 4 March 1795, aged 52. Letters of Admon. were issued to his widow, Catherine, Thomas WHITTINGHAM and James HOWARTH or HAWORTH (both spellings were used). Thomas Mayor was then described as a hosier and his personal property was worth less than £600. Various leases in Lancashire Record Office, Bow Lane, Preston describe Thomas as an "Innkeeper", and an inn called the "Roast Beef" is mentioned in his son James's will. I know nothing of the parents of Thomas Mayor or when or where he was born, and would love to make contact with anyone researching this family. There were stories in the family of amorial bearings, which I suspect have no substance to them, and have their origins in Victorian snobbery. There was however, in the will of a grand-daughter of Thomas and Catherine, mention of a portrait of Catherine. I would love to know what happened to that! Jan Craig, Ashton, Chester Grand-daughter of Erna Violet Shingler nee Mayor.

My husband's mother, Beatrix Marie DRAKE, was born in Fulwood, Preston, 31/10/1920. She died 01/08/1969 in CA, before she told much about her family. Her father Frederick, and mother Beatrice, sister Dorothy, brothers Gerard and Francis all have died and left us without any known living relatives. I would like to know if anyone can help locate information about the family, or give me a hint on where to try looking. Thank you. Mary [email protected]

Hello Listers, Just thought I would post my family interests to see if there might be any connections, you never can tell!!!!!!. Thank you in advance. Pat Starling. Berkshire. UK. Researching. BANNISTER. BIRTWISTLE. CLEGG. CROSSLEY. MELLING. BROOKS TWIGG. TWIGG. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com

I wonder if anyone can help me with any information or ideas with regards to my grandfather and grandmother. I have been trying to obtain their marriage certificate via Bigfamily.com and they have drawn a complete blank. As for my grandmother Maude RANYELL I can find absolutely nothing about her. Hubert WELLS and Maude E. RANYELL were (I think) married on 31st August 1903, this is gleaned from a small printed card that has three folds, the left hand fold has the name Maude E. Ranyell with an arrow going through the name (as per Cupid) and the right hand fold has the name Hubert WELLS also with a cupid's arrow through the name, the centrefold says 'With the compliments of Mr & Mrs Hubert WELLS 40-41 Church Street, Preston, August 31st 1903'. This may not have been anything to do with their wedding, but it is the sort of compliments slip that one would send with a piece of wedding cake for example. I believe that Hubert was a Quaker and it may have been a Quaker marriage ceremony. They had three daughters - Margaret, Gwendoline and Frances. Maude died of breast cancer about 1913. Hubert was a Master Draper and had a drapers shop in Preston. In 1920 Hubert was living at 9 Penwortham Hill, Penwortham, Lancashire. Hubert's father was Alfred WELLS who in the 1881 census is described as a farmer of 350 employing 7 men and 6 boys, Mother: Mary WELLS, dwelling: Farm House, Isham, Northampton. He had three sisters, Mabel, Priscilla and Mary Sophia. Hubert's birthplace is Isham, Northampton, presumably the farm house. Hubert's birth certificate shows that he was born 22 Mar 1874 in the sub district of Wellingborough in the county of Northampton. Entry No. 146 Register Book of Births 29. His mother is named as Margaret ALLEN. Hubert died 29 Aug 1948. John Calland. Researching: CALLAND, WELLS, NEEDHAM, ALLEN, KENYON, RANYELL, WALMSLEY.

Hi All Wondered if anyone has any links with the CARTER, STANDEN, surnames from Preston. Maternal greatgrandparents were James Carter and Alice Standen married in 1888. James born 20 November 1867parents were Robert & Fanny Carter. Alice born 27 October 1866 at Uptown Cockerham, parents were Thomas Standen & Alice(Burton). At time of marriage James lived at 16 Grayston Street Preston and Alice lived at no. 15 Grayston. James was a grinder, Alice was a tinter. James father Robert was deceased before James marriage in 1888. Alice died 18 December 1902 from Erysipelas of face. Death was at no. 8 Livesey Street Preston. James maried again to Anne? James & Alice had 5 children: Fanny, Robert, Alice, James & Thomas. Love to hear from anyone with any connections to these names. I winder also do these streets still exist today? Bye for now Noelene Jones Townsville Queensland Australia

Hi, Noelene, Sorry, I do not know your families. You also asked about Grayston Street and Livesey Street. I would suspect that both of these streets are in an area which was redeveloped in the 1970s because I have a paper map from this time which mentions Grayston Street as being close to or off George Street (which runs parallel to London Road, the A6 south out of Preston) and shows Livesey Street as one of the streets joining George Street and London Road. If you go to www.multimap.co.uk and enter London Road, Preston, as the address you seek, you will see a modern map of Preston with London Road running from top to bottom. To the left you will see George Street and you will find Livesey Street shown as a cul-de-sac off George Street. If you go to www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk you will find a publisher who has at least two large scale (ca 15 inches to the mile) maps of Preston in 1909. If you are interested, you need the Central Preston map and this one shows Livesey Street running between George Street and London Road, and Grayston Street being the next street north of Livesey Street off George Street. You can buy these maps on line. Finally if you have looked at multimap and seen the general layout of streets in Preston, turn to www.old-maps.co.uk and search for Preston. Choose the Lancashire Preston (No. 14). It will show a map from 1849. Initially the west side of the town centre is shown, follow the instructions on the screen and move eastwards. You should be able to find London Road. Increase the scale using the boxes on the right of the map. At the highest scale, you should be able to see a street running off and to the east of London Road labelled Primrose Hill. The houses you are interested in were not built at that time, but were opposite and south of Primrose Hill. Hope this helps Jim Lancaster (Bury, LAN)

I am seeking information about my father Harold Bowen b 3 May 1892 at Chorlton upon Medlock, Lancashire, England and his relatives. We know he had a younger brother named Sidney (?Sydney). Although unaware of any other siblings there is a possibility that there was an older brother who died before my father was born. My father's father's name was William Thomas Bowen and his mother's name was Sarah Elizabeth Bowen nee Sutton or Dutton. They travelled to China from Lancashire in late 1890's. Harold travelled to China (Shanghai) to join his parents at the age of 9 (about 1900) returning to England prior to WW1. He joined the army but finished the war in the Royal Flying Corps. His family had something to do with cotton manufacturing which is why they went to China. Sarah apparently died of a vitamin deficiency in China (Shanghai area) early 1900's. Any information gratefully received. Many thanks. Shelagh Stephenson

I am a new subscriber and I'm not sure if my first posting was received so I am sending again!! Looking for info on the HUNTER family from Preston. Namely ROBERT HUNTER born 1806 and his children, Ann(1833),Mary (1839) John (1833 or 1843) and Thomas born 1842. The only address I have is at the time of Thomas's birth and this is Pitt Street.Janice

Dear Listers, Could SKS please send me information on the fiche numbers that cover the Preston area census, 1891? It would be very much appreciated. Thank You Dorothy Scott

Hi All, I am currently trying to find more details on a JOHN TAYLOR born Preston 1810. I have been told that his wife's maiden name was ELEANOR ATKINSON and they married August 1837 at Helsington, Westmorland John Taylor's occupation according to the 1881 Census ws Head Grocer and Druggist. At the time of the Census he and his wife and three children Eleanor, Alfred and Ada Louisa were all living at 43 Highgate, Kendal, Westmorland. I have not been able to find birth details for John Taylor or marriage details if they did marry for his children. In 1881 they were 39, 35 and 31yrs so perhaps none of them married. I would be most grateful if someone could suggest where I might find John Taylor's birth details and who his parents were and if he had a younger brother Edward born 1818. Regards, Judy _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

Hi All, I am currently trying to find more details on a JOHN TAYLOR born Preston 1810. I have been told that his wife's maiden name was ELEANOR ATKINSON and they married August 1837 at Helsington, Westmorland John Taylor's occupation according to the 1881 Census ws Head Grocer and Druggist. At the time of the Census he and his wife and three children Eleanor, Alfred and Ada Louisa were all living at 43 Highgate, Kendal, Westmorland. I have not been able to find birth details for John Taylor or marriage details if they did marry for his children. In 1881 they were 39, 35 and 31yrs so perhaps none of them married. I would be most grateful if someone could suggest where I might find John Taylor's birth details and who his parents were and if he had a younger brother Edward born 1818. Regards, Judy _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

Hi, Judy, You wrote > I am currently trying to find more details on a JOHN TAYLOR born Preston > 1810. The first question is how reliable is '1810'? The IGI (1992 fiche edition) lists John TAYLOR, son of Geo. & Alice TAYLOR, christened 15 Oct 1809, in St. John's, Preston. I think this entry is from a Parish Extraction programme by the LDS. It is probably from one of the volumes published by the Lancashire Parish Record Society. It may be worth checking the entry on Family Search, or on the computer at your local LDS Family History Library. There MAY be other details. > I have been told that his wife's maiden name was ELEANOR ATKINSON and > they married August 1837 at Helsington, Westmorland As this marriage took place after July 1837, it should be recorded in the General Register Index. Helsington, Westmorland, is a small village and going through GENUKI site ( www.genuki.org.uk/big/ ) I found The search for places enumerated in the 1891 census produced the following result. County District Sub-District Place PRO piece number LDS Film Westmorland Kendal Milnthorpe Helsington RG12-4334 6099444 This suggests that checking the registers for the Parish Church at Kendal may produce the marriage. If not, then you will need to work outwards to neighbouring CofE parishes, particularly working south towards Milnthorpe. It would have been a sparsely populated area (still is, relatively) and I don't know the foundation dates of the local churches, - you could probably find those through Genuki. However, do not forget that the marriage may have taken place in one of the non-conformist chapels in the area. Hope this helps Jim Lancaster (Bury, LAN)

Hi I'm new to the list and am posting my Preston interests as follows:- LOMAX All dates. Mostly Benjamin and Georges! BUTCHER Mary born c 1833 married to Benjamin Lomax, a clogger of North Rd. Preston in 1857. ather John Butcher COLE Mary Ann married George Lomax. Could have been in service in Preston before her marriage as 1891 census states her birthplace as Dudley. ASHCROFT (lived and worked mostly on the barges on the Lancaster canal) lived in Hope Street, Back Edward St etc on the canal basin. BEESLEY Elizabeth Beesley born c 1825 married to Daniel Ashcroft canal boatman brother of Joseph in 1847. PEARSON George Pearson a grocer of Park Road, Preston married unknown, then Hannah Sumner in 1842, then Margaret White in 1850. Son John Pearson born 1843. SOWERBY Martha Sowerby c 1843 married John Pearson. Martha daughter of Thomas Sowerby and Mary Ashton RIGBY Thomas Rigby and Elizabeth Taylor both born in Tarleton, as was their son, my grandfather born around 1870. Younger children born Preston except youngest Edward born in 1880 born in Hesketh with Becconsall. Some connections apparently with the now demolished Port Admiral public house. ROE Looking for marriage of George Roe and Hannah (Ann) Pasker Both born around 1830 in Preston. Daughter Mary Jane Roe born in 1861. Also birth of George. Any information would be appreciated. Janet Rigby

Researching: WILKINSON, BAYMAN, GERRARD, AINSWORTH, MARSDEN, GREEN, SMALLEY Looking for William WILKINSON, born about 1805 in Ellel, Lancashire, England and died 28 Nov 1870 in Preston. William could be the son of Edward Wilkinson and may have a sister named Jane WILKINSON. William married Esther GERRARD, d/o Joseph & Agnes (AINSWORTH) GERRARD, on 27 Sep 1827 in St. John Parish, Preston, Lancashire. Esther was born around 1807 in Preston and died on 9 Dec 1892 in Preston. The children of William and Esther (GERRARD) WILKINSON were: George WILKINSON b. 24 Jul 1829 in Preston Jane WILKINSON b. abt 1832 in Preston married Reuben SMALLEY Mary WILKINSON b. abt 1834 in Preston married James MARSDEN Looking for William WILKINSON, born about 1805 in Ellel, Lancashire, England and died between 1861-1881 somewhere in England. William could be the son of Edward Wilkinson and may have a sister named Jane WILKINSON. William married Esther GERRARD, d/o Joseph & Agnes (AINSWORTH) GERRARD, on 27 Sep 1827 in St. John Parish, Preston, Lancashire. Esther was born around 1807 in Preston and died on 9 Dec 1892 in Preston, Lancashire. The children of William and Esther (GERRARD) WILKINSON were: George WILKINSON b. 24 Jul 1829 married Nancy ? Jane WILKINSON b. abt 1832 married Reuben SMALLEY Mary WILKINSON b. abt 1834 married James MARSDEN Elizabeth WILKINSON b. abt 1828 married James Green William WILKINSON b. abt 1840 Joseph WILKINSON b. 6 Dec 1842 married Elizabeth BAYMAN Hannah WILKINSON b. abt 1846 All children were born in Preston. I have found this family in the 1841, 1851, 1861, and 1881 living in Preston, Lancashire, England. I would appreciate anything any has on this family. Thanks!! Danny Redmond San Diego, CA [email protected]

Hello One &All , New to this list , names I am looking for are : Burke John and Henrietta (Jane) nee GREEN William Henry (son) born 1890 Mary Jane (daughter) married ? DAWSON ? killed at war . Then married a REEVES William Thomas at All Saints Church Preston 1908 . All above lived in Preston and William Henry was born there . Do hope some-one can help . Regards Lucy Hunter (Exmouth West Australia)

Hi all Just thought that I would post my interests in Preston. DESMOND (all dates), BRADSHAW (pre 1900), ASHWORTH (Isabella) Clare Woodward

Hi there, I'm new to the list and wondered if anyone could help with the following : My ggmother, Ellen LOWE was born Preston 1845. She married Richard TAYLOR, son of John TAYLOR and Anne PARKER TAYLOR b. 1843 Glossop, in 1863. Richard had a brother, Henry, and they both joined the 19th Hussars. Richard and Ellen had some children who all died in infancy and they immigrated to New Zealand 19-12-1876 aboard "Jessie Osborne". Henry married and settled in Darwen. Could SKS possibly check Ellen's birth. Thank you. Cheryl, New Zealand.

Hi, Cheryl, You wrote > My ggmother, Ellen LOWE was born Preston 1845. Could SKS possibly check Ellen's birth? Unfortunately there is no easy way and no sure way of doing this. Civil Registration was introduced in 1837 and required that all Births, Marriages and Deaths were recorded - this should do it surely? No! The legislation required the Registrar to record these events and he could only record them if he found out about them. It was only in the 1870s that the responsibility for registration shifted to the 'family'. Further, initially people took the view that "if I am not recorded, I cannot be taxed" and "I've had the baby baptised, that is sufficient". The details of how to obtain a copy of the Birth Registration is available via www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/. It will be cheaper to obtain the certificate from the local office in Preston than through the national office. There is no open access to these Registers. The alternative strategy, and you may need this if the birth was not registered, is to check for her Baptism. Again, not as simple as it sounds. Preston has always been a place of varied religious adherence. There was always a presence of the Old Religion after the Reformation, and as time went on there were various communities of Protestant Dissenters. By 1840 there were eight Anglican churches, three Roman Catholic churches and about thirteen Non-Conformist chapels, according to a book by T.R. Flintoff "Preston Churches and Chapels" (1985). It is likely that some of these have not survived and certainly those of the RC community have not been published, even if they have been transcribed. > Henry married and settled in Darwen. If you have not already done so, it may be possible to find Henry in the 1881 Census Transcript on CD. Sorry to have to provide a rather gloomy reply, but I hope it helps Jim Lancaster (Bury, LAN)

Hello List, My surname interests in Preston include the following: COOPER: from about 1774 BRADSHAW: from 1813 BUSBY: from about 1787 ELLITHORN: from 1812 HELME: from 1785 ROBINSON: from 1790 WILSON: from about 1833 Other surnames in Lancashire include: GILLESPIE: Manchester, 1841 HEALD: Manchester, 1790; Blackburn? c. 1754 HINDLER: Chorley, c. 1755 PARKINSON: Preston?, c. 1790. Any connections? Cheers, Brian Cooper [email protected] Manitoba, Canada