Hi Billie Sorry I must have missed your earlier mail. What a small world cos Ive just looked for your Mary HORROCKS with dad Joseph on 1841 census and see they are on the sames creen as Richard and Elizabeth Horrocks- Im betting Richard and Elizabeth are the witnesses mentioned by Barbara on her email today "I have Richard and Elizabeth Horrocks who were witnesses on the marriage certificate of my 4 X gr grandparents. The marriage was of William Barlow and Ellen Atherton." Again no direct link that I can see to my lot but you never know. And maybe you are connected to Barbara? I will keep this info for sure. carol