HI Sue, i do not know if this is right yet,we have a Ellen we do not know her surname yet.I do not know all the other family names yet.I am starting on this next. The Howarths i have is my grandma's family, her name Ann Howarth,married to Cartwright John William born in Leigh. The Ellen we have may be my grandmas mother ,i have to get the cirtificates in order to be sure,this Ellen is said to have 6 sets of twins ,my grandma and her brother Robert being one set of them.. Do you have any other names. We have Blower Mcmulkin Sharp and maybe Seddon so far Lynda