Hello Margot: In the Fourth Quarter of 1897 (Oct/Nov/Dec), there is a Marriage between a Catharine WILSON and a John SHORROCKS. Would this be a possibility ?? Perhaps your Catharine, the daughter of Hannah BANKS (nee WILSON) was born to Hannah prior to her marriage to Mr. Banks ???? I have looked through the indexes for marriages for a Catharine/Katharine BURNS, and BANKS, who married a SHARROCKS/SHORROCKS, but have not found anything. Of course, the bottom line is that you might have to order the Marriage Certificate to prove it one way or the other ! If this was the correct Marriage, it would tell you the age of the Bride, and possibly the name of her Father. If you decide to do that, here are the important numbers and information you will need. Fourth Quarter of 1897 District: Prescot, Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 1095 Catharine WILSON John SHORROCKS +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ There is also a John SHORROCKS who was born in 1897 (Fourth Quarter);District: Bolton/County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire. If you wanted to order the Birth Certificate, these are the numbers and information you would need: John SHORROCKS Registration: 1897 Quarter of: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Bolton County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire Volume 8c Page 452 All the best Barb, Ontario, Canada whose Mom was born in Wigan !