Hello Gene ology, Would you know if the John Finch you're interested in had a son, William, born in 1837 in Wigan? I have a William who has John as a father although there are one or two John's in the time frame and the geographical area and I'd like to be sure of the correct John Finch. 'My' William married an Elizabeth Gaskill (Daughter of William and Helen Hoighton) in June 1859 at Saint George's Church. Look forward to hearing from you. Fr. Stuart -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-wigan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-wigan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gene ology Sent: 04 June 2007 14:22 To: ENG-LAN-WIGAN@rootsweb.com Subject: [WIGAN] finch & linked Names Hi Beth Thank you for replying I haven't done as well as you I have only got back to John Finch- about 1807 Wigan he is my the 2nd great grandfather This is my brick wall he married Jane Baldwin oct 1831 according to the 1841 census he lived Buckley House Queen's ward & in 1851 Buckley House Starr INN ropemaker & Publican. his second marriage to Susannah Blackledge nee BAXENDALE gives his father as John a rope maker not been able to find his Christening so I am stuck on his mother's name . John FINCH was my grandfather's name although his father was Thomas for a change. My SHEPHERD connection is in 1892 Jane FINCH to William SHEPHERD --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your freeaccount today. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ~~~ Check your e-mail settings. List mail must be in PLAIN TEXT. ~~~ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WIGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I have Nancy Jane Howarth born 6th September 1859 in Wigan daughter of Israel Howarth (b.1833) and Isabella (b 1825). Nancy Jane married Richard Finch in July 1883. I think Israel was in the workhouse. I can't find Isabella in the 1881 census and it may be that either her name is abbreviated or she wasn't in the County? Israel and Isabella also had Mary 1855, William 1857, Elizabeth Anne 1862 and Margaret 1866. Fr. Stuart -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-wigan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-wigan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gene ology Sent: 05 June 2007 08:54 To: eng-lan-wigan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WIGAN] ENG-LAN-WIGAN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 90 Howarths hi LYNDA I have a Christopher FINCH marrying Alice HOWARTH1873 INCE Daughter of James HOWARTH Bacup1840& Ellen PARKINSON any connection Sue Artdeco3050@aol.com wrote: Ihave Howarths from Wigan in my family---please send names of your Howarths. Thank you Lynda * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ~~~ Check your e-mail settings. List mail must be in PLAIN TEXT. ~~~ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WIGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- All New Yahoo! Mail - Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ~~~ Check your e-mail settings. List mail must be in PLAIN TEXT. ~~~ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WIGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi LYNDA I have a Christopher FINCH marrying Alice HOWARTH1873 INCE Daughter of James HOWARTH Bacup1840& Ellen PARKINSON any connection Sue Artdeco3050@aol.com wrote: Ihave Howarths from Wigan in my family---please send names of your Howarths. Thank you Lynda * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ~~~ Check your e-mail settings. List mail must be in PLAIN TEXT. ~~~ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WIGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- All New Yahoo! Mail – Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you.

Ihave Howarths from Wigan in my family---please send names of your Howarths. Thank you Lynda

This was great. Thanks so much. Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "gene ology" <gn_ology@yahoo.co.uk> To: "eng lan wigan" <eng-lan-wigan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 7:25 AM Subject: [WIGAN] ancestry free > For anybody thats interested ---- > > I have just been on Ancestry.com for FREE !!!! ---from my home computer > ! > ---looked at all of the UK CENSUS on film and lots more! --- i was told > i > had three days trial . > > You don't have to put your credit card details in !!! -- Only e-mail > address > ! > > Go to rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > Click on the Ancestry logo on the top right of the page ---just under > the > sign in logo---scroll down to UK census collection---click on it---then > you > will get a search table to fill in just put someone's name for one of > the > census you would like to find and select the census year from the drop > down > box ---- clisk search and you will get a selection to match your > question > -----click on one of them to view ---- you should now be asked to > subscribe > to Ancestry.com -----instead i was asked to just give my name and > E-mail > address ! > > There is no catch ---they cannot charge you with just an e-mail address > and > I got 3 days free taster searches ----each time my session runs out I > loged > in with a different e-mail address, i have Five different e-mail > address's > !! so I am going to try them all. > > Good luck > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Tryit > now. > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > ~~~ Check your e-mail settings. List mail must be in PLAIN TEXT. ~~~ > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LAN-WIGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For anybody thats interested ---- I have just been on Ancestry.com for FREE !!!! ---from my home computer ! ---looked at all of the UK CENSUS on film and lots more! --- i was told i had three days trial . You don't have to put your credit card details in !!! -- Only e-mail address ! Go to rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com/ Click on the Ancestry logo on the top right of the page ---just under the sign in logo---scroll down to UK census collection---click on it---then you will get a search table to fill in just put someone's name for one of the census you would like to find and select the census year from the drop down box ---- clisk search and you will get a selection to match your question -----click on one of them to view ---- you should now be asked to subscribe to Ancestry.com -----instead i was asked to just give my name and E-mail address ! There is no catch ---they cannot charge you with just an e-mail address and I got 3 days free taster searches ----each time my session runs out I loged in with a different e-mail address, i have Five different e-mail address's !! so I am going to try them all. Good luck --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Tryit now.

Hi Beth Thank you for replying I haven't done as well as you I have only got back to John Finch- about 1807 Wigan he is my the 2nd great grandfather This is my brick wall he married Jane Baldwin oct 1831 according to the 1841 census he lived Buckley House Queen's ward & in 1851 Buckley House Starr INN ropemaker & Publican. his second marriage to Susannah Blackledge nee BAXENDALE gives his father as John a rope maker not been able to find his Christening so I am stuck on his mother's name . John FINCH was my grandfather's name although his father was Thomas for a change. My SHEPHERD connection is in 1892 Jane FINCH to William SHEPHERD --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your freeaccount today.

Hi Carol thanks for replying at the moment I haven't found a Job FINCH Sue Carolgriff@aol.com wrote: Hi My FINCH connection is ELIZABETH MCMULLEN married JOB FINCH 1878 Wigan. Both were born approx 1860. Carol * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ~~~ Check your e-mail settings. List mail must be in PLAIN TEXT. ~~~ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WIGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your freeaccount today.

Hi Sue, I have Mary FINCH 1794-1823 dau of William FINCH 1764-1845 & Martha KNIBB 1758-1844 Mary mar 1815 to William SHEPHERD 1791-1866 son of Samual SHEPHERD 1753- & Sarah BROWN 1750-. Do they seem familiar names to you? Beth -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-wigan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-wigan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gene ology Sent: Monday, 4 June 2007 4:55 AM To: ENG-LAN-WIGAN@rootsweb.com Subject: [WIGAN] FINCH linked names from Wigan area FINCH linked names BITHELL SHEPHERD CROOK SHARROCK VENABLES WHITTLE HOWARTH BALDWIN any connection Sue --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Tryit now. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ~~~ Check your e-mail settings. List mail must be in PLAIN TEXT. ~~~ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WIGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

FINCH linked names BITHELL SHEPHERD CROOK SHARROCK VENABLES WHITTLE HOWARTH BALDWIN any connection Sue --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Tryit now.

Hi My FINCH connection is ELIZABETH MCMULLEN married JOB FINCH 1878 Wigan. Both were born approx 1860. Carol

Thank you for this information which greatly helps David

Thanks. All dealt with David

Dear David Search for the Marriage in 1898 no details. Are you sure of the date? Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: <bowerssenior1@aol.com> To: <eng-lan-wigan@rootsweb.com> Cc: <LANCSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 12:06 PM Subject: [WIGAN] Marriage and DEATH CERTIFICATES > Can anyone help with the following:- > I have two Lancashire deaths and a marriage and I need the Volume and > Page > Number > > CHARLES BOWERS died Dec qtr 1896 Chorlton,Lancs > SARAH ANN BOWERS died Spt qtr. 1901 Chorlton, lancs > David Baxendale married Linnie Melinda BOWERS Sept qtr 1898 Prestwich, > LANCS > Thank you > David > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > ~~~ Check your e-mail settings. List mail must be in PLAIN TEXT. ~~~ > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LAN-WIGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Charles Bowers 65 Chorlton 8c 530 Sarah Ann 71 Chorlton 8c 586 Back with more details soon Joyce Stubbs ----- Original Message ----- From: <bowerssenior1@aol.com> To: <eng-lan-wigan@rootsweb.com> Cc: <LANCSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 12:06 PM Subject: [WIGAN] Marriage and DEATH CERTIFICATES > Can anyone help with the following:- > I have two Lancashire deaths and a marriage and I need the Volume and > Page > Number > > CHARLES BOWERS died Dec qtr 1896 Chorlton,Lancs > SARAH ANN BOWERS died Spt qtr. 1901 Chorlton, lancs > David Baxendale married Linnie Melinda BOWERS Sept qtr 1898 Prestwich, > LANCS > Thank you > David > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > ~~~ Check your e-mail settings. List mail must be in PLAIN TEXT. ~~~ > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LAN-WIGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone help with the following:- I have two Lancashire deaths and a marriage and I need the Volume and Page Number CHARLES BOWERS died Dec qtr 1896 Chorlton,Lancs SARAH ANN BOWERS died Spt qtr. 1901 Chorlton, lancs David Baxendale married Linnie Melinda BOWERS Sept qtr 1898 Prestwich, LANCS Thank you David

Dear lIST I wonder if you can help. I am researching the Gaskell family from Orrell and in particular the Elizabeth Gaskell who married John Chorlton in Upholland P.C. on 10th March, 1850. Her parents might be Henry Gaskell and Ann who were living at Orrell Post, Orrell in 1851. Henry was a Coachman Thank you in anticipation David Bowers

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I am new to the Wigan List and am hoping that someone can help me with my DERBYSHIRE research. I have found 'my' John DERBYSHIRE born 1797 living in North Road, Preston on the 1841 census. His place of birth was a little confusing but from later census I know that he was born in Blackrod. On the IGI there is a John Derbyshire born 6 November 1797 and christened 24 December 1797 at St Katherine, Blackrod with parents Ralph Derbyshire and Nancy Holland - who were married 5 February 1793 in Standish. I am assuming this is 'my' John but how can I be sure ? Derbyshire is a common name in this area. I would love to know if he had any siblings which may help to find more on him. Kind regards, Pauline

Forwarded with the author's kind permission. Note: an update has also been made to Cheshire BMD at http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/ -------- Original Message -------- Hi Still more new data has been added to the indexes at www.lancashirebmd.org.uk as follows: 19,736 deaths for Bolton RD comprising: Eastern Bolton (1881-1886); Edgworth (1896-1902); Farnworth (1888-1891); Great Bolton (1886-1887); Lever (1890-1902); Little Bolton (1885-1888); Little Hulton (1883-1896); Sharples (1886-1902); South West Bolton (1903-1903); Tonge with Haulgh (1895-1903) 7,743 births for Preston RD comprising: Preston (1872-1874) 45,005 births for Wigan & Leigh RD comprising: Ashton (1886-1891); Aspull (1886-1891); Atherton (1886-1891); Culcheth (1886-1891); Hindley (1886-1891); Lowton (1886-1892); Pemberton (1886-1891); Standish (1886-1892); Upholland (1886-1891); Wigan (1886-1891); Wigan (East) (1886-1888); Wigan (West) (1890-1890); Westleigh, (1886-1891) 12,229 marriages for Blackburn RD comprising: Darwen, United Reformed Church, Bolton Rd (1899-1959); Blackburn, Methodist Church, New Row (1905-1932); Darwen, United Reformed Church, Belgrave Square (1912-1928); Darwen, Highfield Congregational Church, Edmund St (1916-1945); Darwen, Methodist Church, Park Rd (1912-1937); Darwen, Baptist Meeting House, Bolton Rd (1919-1939); Darwen, United Reformed Church, Chapels (1899-1952); Darwen, Methodist Church, Spring Vale (1923-1954); Darwen, New Methodist Church, Blackburn Rd (1909-1919); Blackburn, Methodist Church, Fore St (1939-1976); Blackburn, Wesley Hall Central Mission, Feilden St (1921-1948); Blackburn, United Reformed Church, Westbury Gardens (1899-1941); Blackburn, Methodist Church, Harwood St (1904-1934); Blackburn, Methodist Church (Waterfall Buildings) (1920-1944); Blackburn, Particular Baptist Chapel , Islington (1909-1941); Darwen, Hollins Grove Congregational Chapel, Blackburn Rd (1909-1929), Blackburn, St George's Presbyterian (1935-1973); Blackburn, St Andrews Mission Church (1929-1957); Blackburn, Trinity Methodist Church, Preston New Rd (1939-1962); Darwen, United Methodist Church, Duckworth St (1899-1907); Darwen, Methodist Church, Redearth Rd (1912-1927); Blackburn, Woodlands United Reformed Church, Cherry Tree, Livesey (1908-1943); Blackburn, Wesley Chapel, Griffin St (1904-1920); Blackburn, St John (1875-1895); Blackburn, St Paul (1873-1912); Darwen, St John (1879-1890); Blackburn, St Thomas (1893-1901) Blackburn Register Office or Registrar Attended (1901-1909) 3,946 marriages for West Lancashire (Ormskirk) RD comprising: North Meols, St. Stephen (1869-1967); Upholland, St. Thomas (1837-1957) ++++++++++++ John Marsden Sale, Cheshire Webmaster LancashireBMD