For what's it is worth, there were and are a lot of Gore names in Ontario, Canada. I've seen the name a lot as I have searched there for Goring's. Gore is not one of my family names. Happy hunting, Joyce Stevens Michigan -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-wigan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-wigan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of KILCOYELS@aol.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 2:59 AM To: eng-lan-wigan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WIGAN] GORE Connection? In a message dated 02/07/2007 03:59:30 GMT Daylight Time, billdorgan@billdorgan.com writes: Jacqui: I have no connection. But is this helpful?: The oldest GORE I have is in Queen WILLIAM GORE (1801: Wigan, Labourer) married to ALICE (1801: Wigan). They had 7 Children: 1841 UK Census: Gore Family lived at Foggy Lane, Wigan (9 Queen Street, Scholes, Wigan): Thankyou Bill I will check up on these. they may have been siblings or cousins, I have other family living in Queen St at some point. Jacqui * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ~~~ Check your e-mail settings. List mail must be in PLAIN TEXT. ~~~ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WIGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 02/07/2007 03:59:30 GMT Daylight Time, billdorgan@billdorgan.com writes: Jacqui: I have no connection. But is this helpful?: The oldest GORE I have is in Queen WILLIAM GORE (1801: Wigan, Labourer) married to ALICE (1801: Wigan). They had 7 Children: 1841 UK Census: Gore Family lived at Foggy Lane, Wigan (9 Queen Street, Scholes, Wigan): Thankyou Bill I will check up on these. they may have been siblings or cousins, I have other family living in Queen St at some point. Jacqui

In a message dated 02/07/2007 03:59:30 GMT Daylight Time, billdorgan@billdorgan.com writes: Jacqui: I have no connection. But is this helpful?: The oldest GORE I have is WILLIAM GORE (1801: Wigan, Labourer) married to ALICE (1801: Wigan). They had 7 Children: 1841 UK Census: Gore Family lived at Foggy Lane, Wigan (9 Queen Street, Scholes, Wigan): Thankyou Bill I will check up on these they may have been sibking

Jacqui: I have no connection. But is this helpful?: The oldest GORE I have is WILLIAM GORE (1801: Wigan, Labourer) married to ALICE (1801: Wigan). They had 7 Children: 1841 UK Census: Gore Family lived at Foggy Lane, Wigan (9 Queen Street, Scholes, Wigan): William Gore, 40, Laborer Alice Gore, 40 Jane, 20, Working in Factory Mary, 15, Working in Factory William, 15 Ellen, 13 John, 11 James, 5 1851 UK Census: Gore Family lived at 140(?) Driving Lane, Wigan: William Gore, Head, Married, 50, Laborer, born Wigan Alice Gore, Wife, Married, 51, born Ashton Jane Gore, Daughter, Unmarried, 29, Carder in Cotton Mill, born Wigan John Gore, Son, Unmarried, 22, Mule Spinner in Cotton Mill, born Wigan James, Son, Unmarried, 14, Paicer in Cotton Mill, born Wigan Alice, Daughter, Unmarried, 7, Scholar, born Wigan

In a message dated 30/06/2007 23:39:15 GMT Daylight Time, billdorgan@billdorgan.com writes: GORE WILKINSON WIGAN I have Mary Gore b 3 Feb 1781 married to John Peers bc1778. They married at Billinge 9 Jan1803. also Robert Wilkinson marrying Mary Peers at St Johns Chapel, Wigan 26 Jan1811. Do you think there is any connection? Jacqui

Can anyone help me to find the family of Sarah Jane & Edward McGuire who lived at 149 Green Ince Lane in 1926. The children's names were Emily J.born 1892, Minnie born 1894, Robert born 1896, Sarah Jane born 1898. I would appreciate your help. Nancye. nabrooks@ozemail.com.au 30.06.07 1015am

Hello all, Can anyone tell me the link to the Darbyshire surname page. It isn't a "One name Study" but the chap compiling it has posted it on the net. Regards Sandra

Hello, have you tried looking for your Irish relatives on-- Fermanah Gold--an I rish family history site Also there a re Mellings in Farnworth ,famous bread makers--there are bakers in Wigan called Mellings as yet i do not know if its the same family--my friend is related to the Wigan ones and we are researching these next---if i can help in any way please ask Lynda

Two messages, forwarded with the author's kind permission. -------- Original Messages -------- Hi Some new data has been added to www.lancashirebmd.org.uk as follows: 5,999 births for Trafford RD comprising: Stretford (1907-1913) These are copied from www.cheshirebmd.org.uk since they relate to registrations in Lancashire for which the registers are now in Cheshire. Thanks to the CheshireBMD team for these. AND Another batch of new data has been added at www.lancashirebmd.org.uk as follows: 9,628 deaths for West Lancashire (Ormskirk) RD comprising: Halsall (1837-1925); Lathom (1837-1856); Ormskirk (1885-1898) and Scarisbrick (1837-1868) Thanks to David Caunce for the above. John ++++++++++++ John Marsden Sale, Cheshire Webmaster LancashireBMD

MY WIGAN SURNAMES: GORMAN POMFRET DORAN GORE DOYLE THOMPSON HILTON ASHURST BRADSHAW BULPITT GASKELL DUDMAN CLARKE WOODHOUSE DUFFIN GREENLESS WILCOX WILLIAMS BRADBROOK BATTY ORR BROMILOW MY WIGAN-CONNECTED SURNAMES BY MARRIAGE WALSH GOOSE GREEN, LANCASHIRE WILKINSON WIGAN KEILTY (KEALTY) CHESTERFIELD, DERBYSHIRE GILL WIGAN ? KELLY NORMONTON, YORKSHIRE CROPTON, YORKSHIRE CASTLEPOND, YORKSHIRE COWLEY WIGAN Thanks, Bill Dorgan

Please add my surname interests: Wigan, Lancs: Butcher, Shaw and Underhill Thank you, Lance Mitchell-Michigan, USA lancemitchell9476@yahoo.com -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-wigan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-wigan-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Susan Davies Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:15 AM To: ENG-LAN-WIGAN@rootsweb.com Subject: [WIGAN] ROLL CALL!!!! Hi On the LANCS list we have been having a 'Roll Call' where everybody is sending in the surnames they are looking for. The board has come alive as Lynne knows. Wigan is the town I was born and bred in. I now live abroad, but everytime I see a mention of it I get so excited. So come on and post your surnames your looking for. Looking for BIRCH, Wigan, Lancashire and Shrewsbury, Shropshire BRADBURN, Lancashire BROMILOW, Prescot, Whiston CADMAN, Orrell and Wigan CALVEY, Wigan and Ireland CHESWORTH, Lancashire DAVIES, Chester, Skelmersdale, Lancashire and Chatham, Kent DILLON, Wigan and Ireland DONNELLY, Wigan, Ormskirk, and Ireland DOWD, Wigan and Ireland DURKIN, Wigan and Ireland HARRISON, Lancashire HUGHES, Elizabeth, Church Stretton, Shropshire KNOWLES, St Helens, Lancashire. LAWRENSON, Whiston and Lancashire LEIGH, Wigan, Upholland and Skelmersdale MELLING, Ince-in-Makerfield and Wigan MOLYNEUX, Ince-in-Makerfield MOLYNEUX, Whiston. MOORE, Wigan, Parr, and Blackrod, Lancashire MULVEY, Wigan and Ireland PARRY, Flintshire, Toxteth and Wigan PYE, Lathom, Upholland and Skelmersdale SEDDON, Lancashire STRETTLE, Whiston and Lancashire TYRER, Ince-in-Makerfield and Skelmersdale WELDING, Parr and Skelmersdale Husbands line CALLISTER, Isle of Man, Chorley and Wigan CONLIN, Wigan CREER, Isle of Man CRELIN/CRELLIN, Isle of Man DAVIES, Bridgend, Glamorgan DOUGLAS, Ireland and Cleator Moor, Cumberland FARGHER, Isle of Man GLOVER, Wigan KENNISH, Isle of Man LYDIATE, Winstanley and Ashton-in-Makerfield McANALLY, Cleator Moor Cumberland and Ireland McCORMICK, Cleator Moor Cumberland and Ireland OLEARY, Isle of Man PEMBERTON, Pemberton Wigan and Ashton-in-Makerfield PHILLIPS, Bridgend Glamorgan SHAW, Ashton-in-Makerfield THOMAS, Bridgend Glamorgan UNSWORTH, Wigan and Golborne WADE, Isle of Man WILKINSON, Wigan and Tarporley Cheshire WOOD, Wigan and Croft Warrington Best Regards Susan Davies in Sunny Dubai 40C in the shade -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.2/766 - Release Date: 4/18/2007 7:39 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.2/766 - Release Date: 4/18/2007 7:39 AM

Hi all, the majority of my ancestors are from Wigan and the surrounding area. my Family Tree is online at http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/e/d/e/Nathan-Eden-Manchester/ Please have a look, if you find someone related to you or have any information on anyone. Please let me know. Thank you Nathan

(1) 1 William ASHURST Birth: ABT 1844 Birth Place: Burscough, Lancashire, England Occupation: Coal Miner The family of William Ashurst and Isabella Hornby appear on the 1881 UK Census. They lived at 47 Forge Street, Ince in Makerfield, Lancashire, England, in the same neighborhood as the Hiltons and the Pomfrets. William ASHURST Head 37 Burscough, Lancashire, England Coal Miner Isabella ASHURST Wife 37 Ince, Lancashire, England Elizabeth ASHURST Daur 14 Ince, Lancashire, England Weavers Tenter At Cott Mill William ASHURST Son 12 Ince, Lancashire, England Scholar Margaret ASHURST Daur 10 Hindley, Lancashire, England Scholar Thomas ASHURST Son 7 Hindley, Lancashire, England Scholar John ASHURST Son 7 Hindley, Lancashire, England Scholar Richard ASHURST Son 2 Ince, Lancashire, England Spouse: Isabella HORNBY Birth: ABT 1844 Birth Place: Ince, Lancashire, England Marriage: 1865 Marr Place: Wigan Register Office, Wigan Lancashire, England Marr Memo: Marriages March Quarter: Volume 8c Page 31 Children: Elizabeth (~1867-) William (~1869-) Margaret (~1871-) Thomas (~1874-) John (~1874-) Richard (1879-) (2) 1.1 Elizabeth ASHURST Birth: ABT 1867 Birth Place: Ince, Lancashire, England Occupation: 1881: Weaver’s Tenter at Cotton Mill (2) 1.2 William ASHURST Birth: ABT 1869 Birth Place: Ince, Lancashire, England (2) 1.3 Margaret ASHURST Birth: ABT 1871 Birth Place: Hindley, Wigan, Lancashire, England (2) 1.4 Thomas ASHURST Birth: ABT 1874 Birth Place: Hindley, Wigan, Lancashire, England (2) 1.5 John ASHURST Birth: ABT 1874 Birth Place: Hindley, Wigan, Lancashire, England (2) 1.6 Richard ASHURST Birth: 1879 Birth Place: Ince, Wigan, Lancashire, England Birth Memo: Wigan & Leigh: HNDL/65/459 The 1881 UK Census lists the Ashurst family living at 47 Forge St., Ince In Makerfield, Lancashire, England. The 1891 UK Census lists the Ashurst familyt living at 17 Forge Street, Ince in Makerfied, Lancashire, England: Richard Ashurst Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1879 Relation: Son Father's name: William Mother's name: Isabella Gender: Male Where born: Ince, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Ince In Makerfield Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Ince In Makerfield County/Island: Lancashire Street address: 17 Forge Street Registration district: Wigan Sub-registration district: Hindley Household Members: Elizabeth Ashurst 24 home, Ince Henry Ashurst 8 Ince Isabella Ashurst 49 Ince John Ashurst 17 coal miner Hindley Joseph Ashurst 5 Ince Margaret Ashurst 20 cotton spinner Hindley Mary E Ashurst 7 Ince Richard Ashurst 12 Ince Ruby Ashurst 2 Ince Thomas Ashurst 15 (?17) coal mine Hindley William Ashurst 47 coal miner Burscough, Lancashire William Ashurst 20 coal miner, Ince Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3062; Folio 16; Page 25; GSU roll: 6098172. Spouse: Mary Alice POMFRET Birth: MAR 1881 Birth Place: Wigan, Lancashire, England Birth Memo: Wigan & Leigh: WIG/136/340 or Wigan: 8c 55 Occupation: Cotton Mill Wand Reeler Father: William POMFRET (1856->1901) Mother: Alice HILTON (1854-1903) During the 1881 British Census, Mary Alice Pomfret lived with her parents at 7 Hey St., Wigan, Lancashire, England. At the time of the 1881 Census she was 2 months old. Mary Alice Pomfret appears on the 1891 UK Census: Mary A Pomfret Age: 10 Estimated birth year: about 1881 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Mother's name: Alice Gender: Female Where born: Wigan, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Wigan Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Lancashire Street address: 7 Hey Street Registration district: Wigan Sub-registration district: Wigan Household Members: Alice Pomfret 38 Ann Pomfret 13 Mary A Pomfret 10 Maud Pomfret 6 William Pomfret 36 William Pomfret 4 Mary A. is listed as 20 years old on the 1901 Census. There is only one Mary Alice Pomfret married at All Saints in Wigan: Surname POMFRET Forename(s) Mary Alice Surname ASHURST Forename(s) Richard Church / Register Office All Saints,Wigan Registers At Wigan & Leigh ReferenceC33/20/173 Marriage: 1903 Marr Place: All Saints, Hindley (Wigan), Lancashire, England

Hello Anne, Thank you for your e-mail. Sorry that I can't help, but you may find some help from the Lancashire List - will send you the address in my next e-mail. You may also find lots of information on the Mormon Church 1881 British Census and National Index ( bought them; 26 discs for £26.00 )- that's where I started about 9 years ago. I found my GGGF James Eden born 1815 ect. >From that information and using the Mormon Sites I have recently found Esther Marsh born Wigan (Hence my recent interest in Wigan). Esther maried my GGGGGF Thomas Eden in 1780. With regard to the Lancashire List - the vast majority of people one writes to, never answer - it seem that lots of rearchers just don't have the time to say thank you. Recently I found some interest in the website British History Online- open it up and enter Lancashire, then: Newton In Makerfield. (now Ashton in Makerfield)Scroll down and find the "Banner" for the Bretherton Family, then scroll thru and find James Eden who married the sister of John Bretherton- Could not find the name of his wife, James died 1625 leaving a son Gilbert - interesting stuff!!!!!!Could be a relative of mine ???.. Good luck with your research. Bertie ,. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Berresford" <anne@mice.me.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-WIGAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 8:54 PM Subject: [WIGAN] ASHURST from Ashton-in-Makerfield > Hello > > I am re-subscribing after a gap. I am trying to find my Ashurst ancestors. > > James Ashurst and Margaret Pilling married 11 May 1839 at St Oswalds RC > Chapel. James was 23, his father was John Ashurst - weaver. > I have lots of information about the Pilling family. They show no signs > of being an RC family. > > I can discover nothing about James' parents and siblings. > > I would be very grateful if someone could look ath the RC registers at the > History Shop in Wigan. > > i understand that the History Shop has RC baptisms up to 1822 for Ashton > Garswood Hall and for Ashton, Our lady Immaculate. > > I would like details of James' baptism about 1815 - 1816, and of any > siblings. > > It would be fantastic if someone could help. > > Anne > I am in Sheffield and am happy to do look-ups there. > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > ~~~ Check your e-mail settings. List mail must be in PLAIN TEXT. ~~~ > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LAN-WIGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/844 - Release Date: 11/06/2007 > 17:10 >

Hi Anne Eric Winstanley has lots of information on Ashton and I am sure he mentioned the Pillings. Please contact me on joyce.riddick@btinternet and I will contact Eric with your e-mail address if you haven't already got it. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Berresford" <anne@mice.me.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-WIGAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 8:54 PM Subject: [WIGAN] ASHURST from Ashton-in-Makerfield > Hello > > I am re-subscribing after a gap. I am trying to find my Ashurst ancestors. > > James Ashurst and Margaret Pilling married 11 May 1839 at St Oswalds RC > Chapel. James was 23, his father was John Ashurst - weaver. > I have lots of information about the Pilling family. They show no signs > of being an RC family. > > I can discover nothing about James' parents and siblings. > > I would be very grateful if someone could look ath the RC registers at the > History Shop in Wigan. > > i understand that the History Shop has RC baptisms up to 1822 for Ashton > Garswood Hall and for Ashton, Our lady Immaculate. > > I would like details of James' baptism about 1815 - 1816, and of any > siblings. > > It would be fantastic if someone could help. > > Anne > I am in Sheffield and am happy to do look-ups there. > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > ~~~ Check your e-mail settings. List mail must be in PLAIN TEXT. ~~~ > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LAN-WIGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello I am re-subscribing after a gap. I am trying to find my Ashurst ancestors. James Ashurst and Margaret Pilling married 11 May 1839 at St Oswalds RC Chapel. James was 23, his father was John Ashurst - weaver. I have lots of information about the Pilling family. They show no signs of being an RC family. I can discover nothing about James' parents and siblings. I would be very grateful if someone could look ath the RC registers at the History Shop in Wigan. i understand that the History Shop has RC baptisms up to 1822 for Ashton Garswood Hall and for Ashton, Our lady Immaculate. I would like details of James' baptism about 1815 - 1816, and of any siblings. It would be fantastic if someone could help. Anne I am in Sheffield and am happy to do look-ups there.

I wonder if anyone can help me I am trying to find the birth of:- James Ramsdale abt 1728 It is listed on the IGI as being in :- Deane by Bolton I have been in touch with Bolton and they can't find anything anywhere near that date I was wondering if anyone has any ideas where I can look next? I have his marriage:- 1751 Bolton Parish Council (Westhoughton) --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000748-2, 09/06/2007 Tested on: 6/10/2007 11:54:24 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

>From The National Archives: > You can now search and download recommendations for honours and awards > to British army personnel and those of the dominions. This collection > also contains details of some awards to members of the Royal Navy > (RN), Royal Marines (RM) and Royal Air Force (RAF), and of decorations > exchanged between British and allied armies. This is the first part of > a joint project by The National Archives and the Ministry of Defence > (MOD). See http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/wo373.asp Happy searching! Lynne

HI Sue, i do not know if this is right yet,we have a Ellen we do not know her surname yet.I do not know all the other family names yet.I am starting on this next. The Howarths i have is my grandma's family, her name Ann Howarth,married to Cartwright John William born in Leigh. The Ellen we have may be my grandmas mother ,i have to get the cirtificates in order to be sure,this Ellen is said to have 6 sets of twins ,my grandma and her brother Robert being one set of them.. Do you have any other names. We have Blower Mcmulkin Sharp and maybe Seddon so far Lynda

Hello Fr. Stuart I am sorry so far I haven't found a Willam or Richard FINCH Happy Hunting Sue Father Stuart <father_stuart@phonecoop.coop> wrote: Hello Gene ology, Would you know if the John Finch you're interested in had a son, William, born in 1837 in Wigan? I have a William who has John as a father although there are one or two John's in the time frame and the geographical area and I'd like to be sure of the correct John Finch. 'My' William married an Elizabeth Gaskill (Daughter of William and Helen Hoighton) in June 1859 at Saint George's Church. Look forward to hearing from you. Fr. Stuart -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-wigan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-wigan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gene ology Sent: 04 June 2007 14:22 To: ENG-LAN-WIGAN@rootsweb.com Subject: [WIGAN] finch & linked Names Hi Beth Thank you for replying I haven't done as well as you I have only got back to John Finch- about 1807 Wigan he is my the 2nd great grandfather This is my brick wall he married Jane Baldwin oct 1831 according to the 1841 census he lived Buckley House Queen's ward & in 1851 Buckley House Starr INN ropemaker & Publican. his second marriage to Susannah Blackledge nee BAXENDALE gives his father as John a rope maker not been able to find his Christening so I am stuck on his mother's name . John FINCH was my grandfather's name although his father was Thomas for a change. My SHEPHERD connection is in 1892 Jane FINCH to William SHEPHERD --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your freeaccount today. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ~~~ Check your e-mail settings. List mail must be in PLAIN TEXT. ~~~ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WIGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ~~~ Check your e-mail settings. List mail must be in PLAIN TEXT. ~~~ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WIGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Inbox full of unwanted email? Get leading protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail.