Hello List I've just joined in order to see if anyone can help me find any trace of my possible Bowles ancestors who lived in Wigan in the late 1700's to early 1800's. The only records that I have so far are a discharge document for a Michael Bowles from the 23rd Regiment of Foot in 1802 after serving for only 4 years. He is described as having been born in or near the market town of Wigan in the county of Lancashire and by trade a weaver. He was discharged at age 26 so he would have been born about 1776. Then I have a record from the Lancashire County Quarter Sessions (online record on the Lancashire Archives site) of a petition dated July 30, 1816 for the removal of William Bowles' wife Sarah and their children John and Ann. William Bowles is also described as a weaver so he would be a possible brother of Michael's. Would anyone have any further references for Bowles in the Wigan area, particularly weavers it seems, from about those times? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Tom (in snowy central Canada)
Edward & Sarah McGuire lived at Ince, Wigan prior to moving to Appley Bridge during the 1920s. Their daughter Minnie went with them, Minnie born 1894. On the 1901 census Edward's occupation was "Stationery Engine worker ", his age 33yrs. his wife Sarah was also 33 years old. Their eldest daughter Emily Jane married John Maiden and they lived at Chorley. I would appreciate any information on any of these people. Would their deaths be registered at Chorley or Wigan? Thank you Nancye n.abrooks@bigpond.com. 24.02.08 6.30pm
Many thanks Barb - I was quite wrong and you are quite right - MARY it should have been not Elizabeth. Otherwise all the input stands. It pays not to be doing more than one thing at once!! Or yet another Senior Moment!! It means your other interesting suggestions are no longer relevant however - but thank you for the effort you put into that. I hope further analysis and digging will provide other spot on information and assistance. Gavin Harrison Yates in Christchurch New Zealand. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb Baker" <bbaker48@sympatico.ca> To: <eng-lan-wigan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 5:39 PM Subject: [WIGAN] Henry HARRISON and WINSTANLEY Marriage >I see a marriage in the Index, in the 3rd Qtr. of 1851 for a > > Henry HARRISON > District: Prescot > County: Lancashire > Volume: 20 > Page: 839 > > But the bride was a Mary WINSTANLEY not Elizabeth > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LAN-WIGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Can anyone kindly help with information on the origins, parentage/siblings/family or clues, of Elizabeth Winstanley ( born Orrell? c 1829) who married Henry Harrison of Haydock in 1851 in Eccleston. (Her Father = Joseph; Mother possibly = Alice?) She cared for the chidden of Henry's first marriage (Sarah Singleton) and went on to have 5 of her own -James, Joseph,. Samuel, Alice, John between 1852-1864. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Gavin Harrison Yates in Christchurch, New Zealand.
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Ah So !! I'll have more time tomorrow to have another look. There are many many many Winstanleys, all in Lancashire. There were also a good number of last names given, with the alternate of Whinstanley. Also, I did see an Alice and Joseph on the 1841 Census; think the daughter there was either an Esther or Ellen. Will have another look tomorrow. Good Night from Canada. Barb.
I see a marriage in the Index, in the 3rd Qtr. of 1851 for a Henry HARRISON District: Prescot County: Lancashire Volume: 20 Page: 839 But the bride was a Mary WINSTANLEY not Elizabeth
There is an interesting entry on the 1851 British Census. It reads: Parish or Township of: Orrell Ecclesiastical District of: Upholland Sandy Lane Elisabeth WINSTANLEY, Head, Widow, age 60, born Lancashire, Upholland Sandy Lane Elisabeth GREEN, Daughter, Unmarried, age 20, Occupation: Weaver, born Lancashire, Orrell Sandy Lane Thomas GREEN, Grandson, age 2, born Lancashire, Orrell __________________________________________________ When it was indexed, it shows an alternate name for the daughter and grandson as being WINSTANLEY. I could send the image off list. Barb, Ontario, Canada.
Hi Tom "When you do this and select Ashton and Makerfield, christenings start from 1765 for some reason." Yes, I noted that too. Usually it just means they search facility has not yet been updated. I'll send a Message to Paul Dixon who looks after that side of things. One thing to remember about LAN-OPC is that we are all volunteers and most have "day jobs" - we try to keep up to date, but........ Regards Peter Wood
Tom "You don't give the child's parents names, but there is a baptism of an Elizabeth Winstanley dr of James born 12 July 1854, which is approximately 1755." As I hope you gathered, that should have been 1754. Even my lousy timekeeping is better than +/- 100 years! Peter Wood
Hello Tom Are you aware of the LAN-OPC site for Ashton-in-Makerfield? If not, go to the home page at <http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Ashton-in-Makerfield/index.html> and follow the Contents link to St Thomas then Baptisms. There is complete coverage from 1698-1812 and 1828-1844. You don't give the child's parents names, but there is a baptism of an Elizabeth Winstanley dr of James born 12 July 1854, which is approximately 1755. Regards Peter Wood
Hi Tom, Take your pick:- M3 St. Thomas' Elizabeth Winstanley born 12/7/1754, baptized 28/7/1854 to James Winstanley Elizabeth Winstanley born 3/12/1753, baptized 9/12/1753 to John Winstanley Regards, Eric Winstanley in Downall Green, Ashton in Makerfield -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-wigan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-wigan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of T. Wood Sent: 17 February 2008 19:05 To: ENG-LAN-WIGAN-L@rootsweb.com; Wigan Genealogy Subject: [WIGAN] WINSTANLEY - Ashton in Makerfield Is there anyone who has access to the LPRS publication M3 covering christenings for St. Thomas, Ashton in Makerfield from 1698-1755 and/or M14 covering christenings from 1756 to 1809 that could check for a christening entry? I am looking for the christening of Betty Winstanley which should have taken place approximately 1755. Thanks, Tom ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WIGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1283 - Release Date: 16/02/2008 14:16 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1283 - Release Date: 16/02/2008 14:16
Eric, Thanks for the information. I have since discovered that these records are actually on the LAN-OPC website. Researching families from this period is quite difficult no matter how you look at it but without access to the records it is nigh unto impossible. I know that my 3x gr grandmother was Sarah Marsh born in Ashton in 1792 and that her parents were William and Betty. I also know that Betty died at the age of 67 in 1822 which would place her birth at about 1754/5 if the given age at death was correct. What I dont know with any certainty is what her maiden name was. I am presently trying to determine if the marriage of William Marsh to Betty Winstanley that took place at Winwick on 9 Nov 1773 may be the one I am looking for. Tom --- Eric Winstanley <jl.winstanley@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Tom, > > Take your pick:- > M3 St. Thomas' > > Elizabeth Winstanley born 12/7/1754, baptized 28/7/1854 to James > Winstanley > > Elizabeth Winstanley born 3/12/1753, baptized 9/12/1753 to John > Winstanley > > Regards, > Eric Winstanley in Downall Green, Ashton in Makerfield > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-lan-wigan-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-lan-wigan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of T. Wood > Sent: 17 February 2008 19:05 > To: ENG-LAN-WIGAN-L@rootsweb.com; Wigan Genealogy > Subject: [WIGAN] WINSTANLEY - Ashton in Makerfield > > > Is there anyone who has access to the LPRS publication M3 covering > christenings for St. Thomas, Ashton in Makerfield from 1698-1755 > and/or M14 covering christenings from 1756 to 1809 that could check > for a christening entry? I am looking for the christening of Betty > Winstanley which should have taken place approximately 1755. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LAN-WIGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1283 - Release Date: > 16/02/2008 > 14:16 > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1283 - Release Date: > 16/02/2008 > 14:16 > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LAN-WIGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Peter, Thanks for your reply. I have been using the LAN-OPC site for quite some time but I have been going to the parish list by using the Search option from the home page. When you do this and select Ashton and Makerfield, christenings start from 1765 for some reason. I see that doing it your way produces a lot of results that I have been missing so thanks for the suggestion. Tom --- Peter Wood <st.peter@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > Hello Tom > > Are you aware of the LAN-OPC site for Ashton-in-Makerfield? If not, > go to > the home page at > <http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Ashton-in-Makerfield/index.html> > and follow the Contents link to St Thomas then Baptisms. There is > complete > coverage from 1698-1812 and 1828-1844. You don't give the child's > parents > names, but there is a baptism of an Elizabeth Winstanley dr of > James born > 12 July 1854, which is approximately 1755. > > Regards > Peter Wood > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LAN-WIGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Is there anyone who has access to the LPRS publication M3 covering christenings for St. Thomas, Ashton in Makerfield from 1698-1755 and/or M14 covering christenings from 1756 to 1809 that could check for a christening entry? I am looking for the christening of Betty Winstanley which should have taken place approximately 1755. Thanks, Tom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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Thank you very much Deryck for the information regarding Isaac Greenwood, your help has been very much appreciated. Nancye n.abrooks@bigpond.com 2,02,08 4.20pm
This looked like an interesting entry in the Lancashire BMD for 1927: MCGUIRE Sarah Jane BAMBER Isaac Greenwood Christ Church,Ince Wigan & Leigh C19/10/40 Regards Deryck
Hi there Attachments dont work on this list so no cert but not to worry. Seems like the witnesses wouldnt help as they are his wifes family- no ties to his more's the pity! Lets hope the death cert is yours at any rate, its definately a puzzler isnt it! Best of luck carol
This looked like an interesting entry in the Lancashire BMD for 1927: MCGUIRE Sarah Jane BAMBER Isaac Greenwood Christ Church,Ince Wigan & Leigh C19/10/40 Regards Deryck