David Yes, very much so: my ggfather James Smith was born in Newton circa 1799, and moved to warrington in the early decades of the 19th century, he was there, and married mary forster or foster, in the 1820s. Below is a couple of poems from a sequence I'm writing about the family, which will be published in 2008 (the attachment was too big for the ENGLAN servier. . Any connections you have would be extremely helpful. There's also a John Smith lineage from the same dates that I can't connect to mine. If you go to the Smith family South Lancashire website, the lineages are all there. Do you know this link? I think you'll find it by keying in the names of james, John and isaac smith, with warrington as another keyword, but I can't recall precisely, as although I'm a contributor of these data I've not been there for some time and my instant recall fades. Best Family Fortunes Hands James Smith (b. 1799, Newton, Lancashire; d.? between 1862 and 1870) Admiral Lord Nelson, bless his good left arm, did all right by me. Never a better time to have been apprenticed as a sailcloth weaver, while Warrington supplies half of the Fleet. The year he took back Naples I were born; when I were six they wept and cheered together for Trafalgár, him dead, but Froggy beat. Yet Boney had a big hand in my fortune, for if he’d not been so boneheaded, vexed by greed and envy, I’d have empty pockets. I saw the Iron Duke that day the Rocket ran the unfortunate Mr Huskisson down. We rule the waves, and the land too. Our town buzzes with industry. England expects. Dated Stories Mary Smith, née Forster (christened Warrington, 11 July,1800, daughter of Isaac and Hannah Forster; m. 29 October, 1821; d. Warrington, after 1861. Census returns: 1841, weaver, aged 35; 1851, sailcloth weaver, aged 48; 1861, canvas weaver, aged 58) My man came here because the work was good. Till I met him I’d never understood what they meant when they said you’ll know it’s him you want to spend your life with, sink or swim. We wed in 1821. My James were pleased our firstborn were a boy. No shame in being childless, though. There’s Smiths in plenty. We named him after dad. Married at twenty, in ’41 I lied about my age when they came prying, for I couldn’t gauge those dates and things. My children was all born in wedlock, ‘under canvas’. On the morn Isaac arrived we’d waited near eight years, a joyous day though it set out in tears. -----Original Message----- F rom: eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of david bishop Sent: 04 February 2007 12:16 To: eng-lan-warrington@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAN-WARR] Old Directory. Hi Stan Noticed you're researching Smith's. I'm doing ditto on behalf of my cousin. I've found some of her Smith's in Newton and Earlestown if your interested. Regards David from Perth, Oz