St Mary's church, not St Marks, that was just a slip of the fingers - it is 2.45 am! Stan -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stan Smith Sent: 26 February 2007 02:42 To: eng-lan-warrington@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAN-WARR] [SPAM] Re: Warrington Pubs of 1920 Not sure about the Packet House location. If you walked along Mersey Street away from Bridge Foot, you would have come eventually to Downs's corner (so named because Horace Downs and his sister had a newspaper shop there, and, I suspect, so did their father, since the name is on photos earlier than that). If you turned left at Downs's corner you'd be on Buttermarket ST, heading back, with a curve at St Mark's church to the left, back towards the town centre, passing my dad's bike shop on the way. If you turned right, you'd go down Church Street, past the Marquis of Granby and the Parochial School, then the Kinema and the General Wolfe across the road on your left hand side, then Tom Birchall's fish shop on the corner on your right, just across from the 'Tudor Cottages'. You're now well in sight of the parish Church, straight ahead, and Rylands's high redbrick wall runs from roughly the Tudor cottages to round the corner where Church Street turns sharp left into Manchester Road, right on the church and Ring O' Bells corner. Before this, though, the last road you come to directly ahead, on your right, going at right angles to your right, would have been Howley Lane. The lane curved down a little towards the left as it reached the bottom, until it petered out in the waste land behind St Elphins park, and on your left would be the high brick wall surrounding the grounds of the Rectory, where, in my day, the reverend canon Longbottom ruled the roost. Going straight on ahead from Howley Lane, is another street whose name I can't recall, lots of red-brick terraces to left and right, down towards the river. At the end of this you could either turn left, towards a tannery, various wharfs and a few houses almost on the river edge (one of them the house mentioned in an earlier email this evening, I think), or carry on down on a narrow pedestrian path between wooden walls which would take you to the river edge. Turning right at the bottom here, along the river bank, would bring you to the 'swing bridge', a suspension bridge across the Mersey leading to Victoria Park. That may still be there. If you headed instead towards the steel works (you could smell the acid in the air) and the newer (1930s/40s?) houses, possibly early council houses, semi-detached with gardens, which you'd see to the right of the swing bridge as you faced it, you'd hit the parallel streets 'down Howley' which would lead you back, ultimately, to Mersey Street and via there to Bridge Foot. Lockers had their heavy engineering factory in one of the streets, and before you got to that, there was pub whose name I can't remember without getting out my books, but on a sunny summer evening it was almost rural round here, despite being so close to the town centre, because there was actually grass and a few trees, and the streets were wider and more aery and in those days there were no cars around. One of the parallel streets was Ellesmere Street, on which there was an infants primary school attached to, and at the foot on the yard of, the Parochial school, and you could get up back to Church street via the passage, Jackson's opening, that ran along the side of the 'Proke' at right angles to Ellesmere St, between it and Church Street. Not the circles of hell, exactly, but I must sound like Dante... Stan -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maureen Sent: 26 February 2007 00:47 To: eng-lan-warrington@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAN-WARR] [SPAM] Re: Warrington Pubs of 1920 Hello again, Stan, Could you please tell me where abouts Howley Lane was in relation to Packet House Inn and Bridgefoot. I recall Mersey Street and have an udea that if you walked along Mersey Street away from Bridge Foot you came Howley Street. I am also wondering if my emails are getting through because they do not appear back to my box (as do emails I write to other lists). Regards Maureen --------------------------------- Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! 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