last minute plans - going away for a while - be good while I'm away LOL best wishes, Ian. ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information

Hello. I am relisting after a few months off list. My surnames of interest in the Warrington & Maerseyside area are -: Fair Green. Wood(s) Wright Widnes and Warrington Grace Widnes Robertson Rixton Glazebury Webster Widnes I also have an interest in several public houses in the area The Millstone, Warrngton The Milton Warrington The Packet House Inn Warrington. The Commercial Marsh Lane Widnes The Cuerdley Arms Widnes The Talbot Widnes. I would be most grateful for any links to the above. Best regards Maureen Qld Aus. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free.

Hi Just wondered if anyone else has an Ann/i/e LANE in their tree? I have found an Ann LANE married in Jun qua 1876 Warrington Reg Dist with LEATHERBARROW and GARNER as possible husbands (I suspect there might be more!) Is this Ann yours? Details to confirm appreciated. Best wishes, Ian. ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information

Hi have a look here for the legalities http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~awoodley/regency/marry.html basically until the The Marriage Act of 1835 marrying a brothers widow was legal (if frowned upon), however the relationship would be just cause for voiding the marriage if the bride/groom (or anybody else objected) After 31/8/1835 all subsequent such marriages were illegal and thus void (but not any which had occurred earlier) In 1907 the Deceased Wife's Sister's Marriage act of 28 August made it possible to marry one's sister-in-law Finally in 1921 the Deceased Brother's Widow's Marriage Act was passed which made marriage to a brother-in-law legal. So in theory it would not have been allowed, although in practice if nobody admiutted what was going on it could have happened (especially if they used different priests/churches) Hope this helps Anthony Why is it when you think you have it all in order, do you find something that unravels everything that you thought you had set in concrete? Elizabeth Ann HOUGHTON married John OGDEN, 1885, Earlestown, Newton In Makerfield her father as Thomas HOUGHTON, fitter (a copy written out by hand) 1881 find Elizabeth Ann with widowed mother Margaret and other siblings, Caroline is the youngest aged 3, all living with an uncle John HOUGHTON. The latest death I find for a Thomas HOUGHTON in Warrington Reg Dist is in 1875. (searched 1881 - 1875) I have her brother Samuel's birth certificate from 1873 indicating Thomas HOUGHTON, iron turner, as the father and Margaret (nee STOCKTON) as the mother. I needed Elizabeth in 1871 and found her today but the father to the children and husband to Margaret is a William HOUGHTON!! I have a marriage certificate for Thomas HOUGHTON (filler) and Margaret STOCKTON in 1862 at St Elphin's, Warrington his father is George HOUGHTON (a copy duplicate of original) I have found Thomas (a turner), son of George and there is a younger brother William, John is also there in 1861. Can Margaret really have got through three brothers??? Or is it just a census error??? Advice welcome! Thanks, Ian. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 28/06/2006

some kind soul sent me 1841 census info for this family but I don't have the census ref (for Lythgoes Lane, Warrington) to be able to view the original entry. can anyone help? thanks Ian :) ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information

Why is it when you think you have it all in order, do you find something that unravels everything that you thought you had set in concrete? Elizabeth Ann HOUGHTON married John OGDEN, 1885, Earlestown, Newton In Makerfield her father as Thomas HOUGHTON, fitter (a copy written out by hand) 1881 find Elizabeth Ann with widowed mother Margaret and other siblings, Caroline is the youngest aged 3, all living with an uncle John HOUGHTON. The latest death I find for a Thomas HOUGHTON in Warrington Reg Dist is in 1875. (searched 1881 - 1875) I have her brother Samuel's birth certificate from 1873 indicating Thomas HOUGHTON, iron turner, as the father and Margaret (nee STOCKTON) as the mother. I needed Elizabeth in 1871 and found her today but the father to the children and husband to Margaret is a William HOUGHTON!! I have a marriage certificate for Thomas HOUGHTON (filler) and Margaret STOCKTON in 1862 at St Elphin's, Warrington his father is George HOUGHTON (a copy duplicate of original) I have found Thomas (a turner), son of George and there is a younger brother William, John is also there in 1861. Can Margaret really have got through three brothers??? Or is it just a census error??? Advice welcome! Thanks, Ian. ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information

hello, Just posting surnames, all were in Warrington, and attended St Albans, St Mary's, St Elphins, and Gospel Hall. Living in James, Naylor, Cockhedge, Winwick roads/streets. many thanks Janet Johnstone 19b Cathedral Place, Parnell, Auck 1001, NZ P.O.Box 37998, Auckland 1033, NZ p: +64 (0) 9 377 5667 f: +64 (0) 9 377 5676 m: +64 (0) 21 669 636 e: <mailto:janet@johnstone.co.nz> janet@johnstone.co.nz

searching for the following surnames: Stanistreet, Johnson, and Rimmer Looking for the parents of Thomas Stanistreet born 1821-1823 in Warrington possibly illegitimate to a Mary Stanistreet and Thomas Davies with an older brother Richard. Looking for Isabella Johnson father John Johnson and her connection to Peter Rimmer a witness on her 1844 marriage license. barbara scott

If its not too late - can you look up Roberts, if there is a lot in particular Georges or Hamlet   Thank you.   Sharon Davis AUSTRALIA    

Does anyone have accessto christening records (either C of E or RC) for Haydock c. 1843? TIA Tim

I would love to hear from anyone with these Warrington families in their tree- HATTON -- Peter, b.1838 BARLOW - George, b 1805 MILLER - William, b 1795 SHORT - John, b 1812 BRADSHAW - Margaret, b 1814 LEIGH - Elizabeth, b 1813, Sankey Bridges WOOD - Elizabeth, b 1839 KIRKHAM - John, b1811, Latchford BETLEY - Ann, b 1819, Latchford Regards, Lynda

Would someone be able to look up the 1851 census for Garden Street and Parr Street in St Helens for me - I'm looking for a family of Callaghans (or similar). Interested to hear about any Callaghans (or similar) in St Helens (and Haydock) between 1840 and 1855. TIA Tim

Was there a Pau Street (HO107/517/10 Folio 20 Page 34) or something similar in Prescot in 1841?

Was there a Pau Street (HO107/517/10) or something similar in prescot in 1841? Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Callaghan To: LANCSGEN-L@rootsweb.com ; ENG-LIVERPOOL-L@rootsweb.com ; uk-northwest-l@rootsweb.com ; eng-merseyside-l@rootsweb.com ; eng-lan-prescot-l@rootsweb.com ; eng-lan-warrington-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 9:40 AM Subject: Haydock censuses Would anyone be able to do a look up for me on the Haydock 1841 and 1851 censuses? TAI Tim

Would anyone be able to do a look up for me on the Haydock 1841 and 1851 censuses? TAI Tim

Hi. I am looking for any information on the following family, but especially the parents of David Barnes. David Barnes, b. 1787, Warrington, Lancashire m. Lydia Garner, b. 1792, London, Middlesex, on 01 Feb 1808 in Warrington. They had the following children: Ann Barnes, b. 1810, Burslem, Staffordshire Lydia Sarah Barnes, b. 1812, Warrington, Lancashire Eliza Barnes, b. 1815, Burslem, Staffordshire Harriet Barnes, b. 1818, Tutbury, Staffordshire Edward Barnes, b. 1819, Tutbury, Staffordshire John Barnes, b. 04 Apr 1825, Tutbury, Staffordshire Margaret Barnes, b. 1826, Tutbury, Staffordshire Around 1847, after the death of Lydia in 1845, David married Harriet Pooley, Holborn, Middlesex. They had the following children: Clara Ann Pooley Barnes, b. Mar 1849 in Tutbury, d. 1899 in Yorkshire Fanny Pooley Barnes, b. 1851 in Tutbury, last traced to Horsham, Yorkshire. Neither woman married to my knowledge. I have almost complete information on Lydia Sarah Barnes as she married John Clifford, b. 1812, Quarndon, Derbyshire, and they and their children immigrated to the US in Jan 1855. Hope someone recognizes the names. Thanks. Myra in Arizona

Hello All I have a death certificate for the following person who does not seem to be mine (and yes I was most disappointed) Should you believe that this person is yours I would be more than happy to supply you with a scanned copy ANN PLATT Died : 9th Jan 1845 Place : Imperial Hotel, Rose Street Age : 62 years Wife of John Platt, Publican (I would assume of the Imperial) Kind Regards Karen Bennett-Platt Sydney, Australia

AINSLEY BENBOW BENNETT BOARDMAN BOLTON BROOKS BROWN CLYNES DELOOZE DUNBELL FILLINGHAM FORD GLEAVE GLOVER GRIFFITHS HARDMAN HEYWOOD HORNBY JOHNSON KIRKMAN LAWTON LEECH MAGLONE MOULDING MUSTARD NICHOLSON OBRIEN ROSE ROWLINSON RUTTER TAYLOR WEBSTER WRIGHT

I am researching the following names - BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) BRADBURY : Lymm(Cheshire) BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs), Dublin (Ireland) GARDNER : Dublin (Ireland) GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) JOHNSON : Barlaston (Staffs) JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland), Ryton (Co. Durham) JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire), Marthall (Cheshire), Snelson (Cheshire) MYCOCK : Barlaston (Staffs) NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) WILLIAMSON : Cheshire WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

Hi Celia, Do you have any Dunbobbin/Donbavand or any variant inbetween? Cheers Sue Kinsella