Hello Dahlis Perhaps there is a record in Winwick, the Worralls could have been baptised there as it wasn't far from Orford. Regards Celia

Orford was by the 1950s a suburb of warrington, and a place where many of the working-class families from old central Warrington, based on Church St, Howley and School Brow, were decanted, in the slum clearances of the 1940s and 50s. I assume in the 1800s it would be a village in its own right. Stan Smith -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of DahlisMarie Sent: 27 September 2006 12:16 To: ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN-WARR] WORRALL in ORFORD I have finally traced a long lost one Peter WORRALL today and found he was born in Orford abt 1812. I am hoping someone may be able to advise me as to where I could search for any records of that time. I cannot find IGI batch nos. for Orford and hardly any mention at all of Orford as a place. Hoping for some advice if possible Dahlis Southern Highlands NSW Australia No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/456 - Release Date: 25/09/2006 ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier searching of the archives ** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi there, Yes, everybody was born in Warrington according to the census results. It is a puzzle.They are all clearly related because the same family is living with each different Thomas, and the connection is that Sarah Boond married Samuel Ashworth and HE went to live with HER family in Butter Market prior to 1841. There is no sign of any of the Thomas's being married, no record of any Ashworth deaths let alone births, and no other ashworths that I can find in Warrington. If you have any ideas I would love to hear them. Thanks millions kristina ----- Original Message ----- From: "J & H Woodman" <woodman2@btinternet.com> To: <eng-lan-warrington@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [LAN-WARR] Ashworth Family > Hi > > I have just had a quick look at records and have a few questions about > this one. > Was Samuel A born in Warrington? > Was Sarah Boond and her family from Warrington? > Were the other two Thomas As born there too? > > If not, any clues? > > Kind regards > H > > Kristina Whitaker <kristina.whitaker@ntlworld.com> wrote: > I am looking for Thomas Ashworth born Warrington 1840 and his family. His > parents are Sarah (formally Boond) and Samuel. He is on the 1841 census > living with his extended family under the mistaken name of Brand, but his > family disappear until 1871 where another Thomas born 1852 appears with > members of his mother's family. Later on in 1901, yet another Thomas > Ashworth ( born 1871) is head of a household with his great Aunt and Uncle > named as Boarders. > I have been unable to get marriage, birth or death details for any of the > above Thomas Ashworths, so if anybody out there has the means to find them > I would be grateful. > > Regards, > Kristina > ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** > ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier > searching of the archives ** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** > ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier > searching of the archives ** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I think Orford was a hamlet associated with Poulton with Fearnhead. I would assume that for that period (early 1800s), the parish church would be Warrington's (St Elphins). From memory, the online version of the IGI does not have records for that period in Warrington. I believe that Christ Church, Padgate was built in the 1830s - if your family stayed in that area they may have used that church during the mid-century period. I don't live near Warrington, but if you are hoping for someone to do a look-up on microfilms of parish records,I might be able to help you in late October. I am hoping to be able to visit my parents then - they live close to Warrington. Hope this helps. Regards, Susan Wylie

Hi I have just had a quick look at records and have a few questions about this one. Was Samuel A born in Warrington? Was Sarah Boond and her family from Warrington? Were the other two Thomas As born there too? If not, any clues? Kind regards H Kristina Whitaker <kristina.whitaker@ntlworld.com> wrote: I am looking for Thomas Ashworth born Warrington 1840 and his family. His parents are Sarah (formally Boond) and Samuel. He is on the 1841 census living with his extended family under the mistaken name of Brand, but his family disappear until 1871 where another Thomas born 1852 appears with members of his mother's family. Later on in 1901, yet another Thomas Ashworth ( born 1871) is head of a household with his great Aunt and Uncle named as Boarders. I have been unable to get marriage, birth or death details for any of the above Thomas Ashworths, so if anybody out there has the means to find them I would be grateful. Regards, Kristina ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier searching of the archives ** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for Thomas Ashworth born Warrington 1840 and his family. His parents are Sarah (formally Boond) and Samuel. He is on the 1841 census living with his extended family under the mistaken name of Brand, but his family disappear until 1871 where another Thomas born 1852 appears with members of his mother's family. Later on in 1901, yet another Thomas Ashworth ( born 1871) is head of a household with his great Aunt and Uncle named as Boarders. I have been unable to get marriage, birth or death details for any of the above Thomas Ashworths, so if anybody out there has the means to find them I would be grateful. Regards, Kristina

Is St. Helens near Warrington or Pendleton? I am looking for the parents of Mary Stanistreet born 1788-1805 in that area. There is one christened in Saint Helens Lancashire to Henery Standishstreet. barbara Scott

Hello Barbara On the IGI there is a Thomas STANISTREET,(father Thomas STANISTREET) born 1821 Warrington, Married Isabella JOHNSON, 5 April 1844 at Eccles, Death 18 June 1895. It is a patron submission so needs the usual care. Does this sound like your Thomas? Do you know Thomas's father's name, ie from his marriage cert? Pendleton is roughly 15 Miles from Warrington, Eccles is en route between Pendleton and Warrington, nearer to Pendleton. Kind regards Jean. (Lancs) ----- Original Message ----- From: "DSL DSL" <bescot@sbcglobal.net> To: <eng-lan-warrington-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 5:22 PM Subject: [LAN-WARR] distance from Warrington to Pendleton > How far is it from warrington to Pendleton? My Thomas Stanistreet b. 1821 was born in Warrington according to census. I found an entry in the parish regs for St. Thomas parish Pendleton that might be him. As an adult he did live in this parish most of his life. I wonder what possible situation might exist to reconcile this. Maybe born in Warrington but christened in Pendleton. This child on this entry was illegitimate. So I don't know what parish his mom lived in and which parish would have been resposible for her. The father is from Manchester possibly.

How far is it from warrington to Pendleton? My Thomas Stanistreet b. 1821 was born in Warrington according to census. I found an entry in the parish regs for St. Thomas parish Pendleton that might be him. As an adult he did live in this parish most of his life. I wonder what possible situation might exist to reconcile this. Maybe born in Warrington but christened in Pendleton. This child on this entry was illegitimate. So I don't know what parish his mom lived in and which parish would have been resposible for her. The father is from Manchester possibly. barbara

Hi Carolyn Any help is welcome, so yes please. Kind regards H Carolyn Victoria Conroy-Wright <carolyn@cobwebscottage.plus.com> wrote: Hi Heather I actually know a John Armitage in York, I'm happy to send your details to him if you would like me to, I'm sure there must be a link between you somewhere. Let me know if this is ok with you and I'll happily contact him on Monday for you Kindest regards Carolyn Looking for: Bush, Conroy, Sexton, McGuinness, Ray, Norris -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J & H Woodman Sent: 22 September 2006 21:14 To: warrfhs Subject: [LAN-WARR] John Armitage Hello listers I would really appreciate a bit of help if anyone can. I am trying to track down a birth/baptism record for John Armitage born around 1795 in Lancashire and found a record for a baptism on 16 May 1796 in Manchester Cathedral (then the Collegiate Church) for a John born to Thomas and Alice Armitage. Does anyone have this record, know of how I might get a copy or could anyone kindly have a look at it for me so that I might have all the available details? Leading on from this - I am also seeking marriages for: John Armitage to Margaret ? in 1814-1816, and Thomas Armitage to Alice ? in 1790+ I am really stuck and any help would be invaluable. Thank you. Heather ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier searching of the archives ** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier searching of the archives ** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Heather I actually know a John Armitage in York, I'm happy to send your details to him if you would like me to, I'm sure there must be a link between you somewhere. Let me know if this is ok with you and I'll happily contact him on Monday for you Kindest regards Carolyn Looking for: Bush, Conroy, Sexton, McGuinness, Ray, Norris -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J & H Woodman Sent: 22 September 2006 21:14 To: warrfhs Subject: [LAN-WARR] John Armitage Hello listers I would really appreciate a bit of help if anyone can. I am trying to track down a birth/baptism record for John Armitage born around 1795 in Lancashire and found a record for a baptism on 16 May 1796 in Manchester Cathedral (then the Collegiate Church) for a John born to Thomas and Alice Armitage. Does anyone have this record, know of how I might get a copy or could anyone kindly have a look at it for me so that I might have all the available details? Leading on from this - I am also seeking marriages for: John Armitage to Margaret ? in 1814-1816, and Thomas Armitage to Alice ? in 1790+ I am really stuck and any help would be invaluable. Thank you. Heather ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier searching of the archives ** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello listers I would really appreciate a bit of help if anyone can. I am trying to track down a birth/baptism record for John Armitage born around 1795 in Lancashire and found a record for a baptism on 16 May 1796 in Manchester Cathedral (then the Collegiate Church) for a John born to Thomas and Alice Armitage. Does anyone have this record, know of how I might get a copy or could anyone kindly have a look at it for me so that I might have all the available details? Leading on from this - I am also seeking marriages for: John Armitage to Margaret ? in 1814-1816, and Thomas Armitage to Alice ? in 1790+ I am really stuck and any help would be invaluable. Thank you. Heather

My grandfather and great grandfather were called Isaac Smith (married 1852) - the latter's father was called James. We've explored the Bank Quay Isaac Smith before and found no link with my lineage, which was based in School Brow and Howley, on the old Church St side of town. Both first names and obviously surnames are of course common enough, and it may be there's no relation. The possibility remains, though, of some family connection - on my paternal grandmother's side I found an Agnes Thomason (her name), also a fustian cutter, who we worked out to be her aunt on her father's side. If you do find any links with the (Isaac) Smiths from the Church St side of Warringotn, I'd be very grateful to hear about them. Stan Smith -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CnlyBren@aol.com Sent: 22 September 2006 09:20 To: eng-lan-warrington@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN-WARR] GRAHAM MARRIAGE Hello Alison In case you do not have details this is Thomas and Margaret's daughter Margaret Graham's marriage to David Smith - 12 Jun 1854 St Paul Warrington Lancashire David SMITH Minor Bachelor Spinner Living Bank Quay Father Isaac SMITH Labourer Margaret GRAHAM Minor Spinster Living Tanners Lane Father Thomas GRAHAM Labourer Witnesses Richard GRAHAM Mary POTTS I have a very slight link through marriages. Regards Brenda ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier searching of the archives ** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Alison In case you do not have details this is Thomas and Margaret's daughter Margaret Graham's marriage to David Smith - 12 Jun 1854 St Paul Warrington Lancashire David SMITH Minor Bachelor Spinner Living Bank Quay Father Isaac SMITH Labourer Margaret GRAHAM Minor Spinster Living Tanners Lane Father Thomas GRAHAM Labourer Witnesses Richard GRAHAM Mary POTTS I have a very slight link through marriages. Regards Brenda

I am intersted in the name and the place MOSTON and would like to hear from anyone with any connections to it. Regards Tim

Lisa, Here's a summary of all the data that I've seen to date. I think that you're just going to have to search through all the various WOOD possibilities for Henry, James & Samuel and eliminate them one by one. Name Relationship Born Died 1841 1851 1861 1871 1881 (Rnd) Henry WOOD Head 1803 1849 40 Dec'd Dec'd Dec'd Dec'd (married 1835 Farnsworth Market Pl Ann/Jane WOOD (nee SUTTON) Wife 1800 40 50 62 Market Pl Market Pl Market Pl Ann SUTTON Mother in law 1770 70 Market St Henry WOOD Son 1839 1 11 24 Market Pl Market Pl Market Pl James WOOD Son 1839 1 11 21 Market Pl Market Pl Warrington Samuel Sutton WOOD Son 1842 n/a 8 Market Pl Not Found It's possible that Samuel died, was overseas on naval or military service, migrated etc. I even saw one Samuel in an Institution. That too would cause some doubts about the data provided for the census. But apart from doing the job for you, I can't see where I can assist further. Peter

The thrust of my request was whether Samuel Sutton WOOD's death would be in the St. Elphins parish register. And if so, can someone check? The lines of sons Henry Jr. and James have been traced. My other brick wall is the parentage of Henry WOOD Sr. Since the 1841 Census only confirms his birth in Lancashire, I'm looking for suggestions as to where else I could find something with a specific birthplace on it. Thanks again, Lisa -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Peter Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> > Lisa, > > Here's a summary of all the data that I've seen to date. > > I think that you're just going to have to search through all the various > WOOD possibilities for Henry, James & Samuel and eliminate them one by one. > > Name Relationship Born Died 1841 1851 1861 1871 1881 > (Rnd) > > Henry WOOD Head 1803 1849 40 Dec'd Dec'd Dec'd Dec'd > (married 1835 Farnsworth Market Pl > Ann/Jane WOOD (nee SUTTON) Wife 1800 40 50 62 > Market Pl Market Pl Market Pl > > Ann SUTTON Mother in law 1770 70 > Market St > > Henry WOOD Son 1839 1 11 24 > Market Pl Market Pl Market Pl > > James WOOD Son 1839 1 11 21 > Market Pl Market Pl Warrington > > Samuel Sutton WOOD Son 1842 n/a 8 > Market Pl Not Found > > > > It's possible that Samuel died, was overseas on naval or military > service, migrated etc. I even saw one Samuel in an Institution. That too > would cause some doubts about the data provided for the census. > > But apart from doing the job for you, I can't see where I can assist > further. > > Peter > > > ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** > ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier > searching of the archives ** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Do you have any idea when Samuel died. Did he have a family or are we tying up loose ends? One other thing, given that his mothers maiden name is likely Sutton then we can possibly run into problems with the death being indexed under Sutton not Wood. Regards Sue Kinsella ----- Original Message ----- From: "PT & S Kinsella" <kinceller@iprimus.com.au> To: <eng-lan-warrington@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [LAN-WARR] WOOD, Samuel > 1841 Market Place > > Henery Wood 35 school master Y > Ann Wood 40 Y > Henry Wood 1 Y > James Wood 1 Y > Ann Sutton 70 Y > Jane Beurendale 15 Female Servant N > > and next door > Thomas Sutton 40 Y > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Craig & Lisa Hopp" <fivehopps@comcast.net> > To: <ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 11:36 AM > Subject: [LAN-WARR] WOOD, Samuel > > >> Hello again list, >> >> Still looking for the elusive Samuel Sutton WOOD, who was born abt. 1842 >> in Warrington (per the GRO index, it appears his birth was registered >> 4Q1842 in Warrington). Per Warrington parish registers, he was baptized >> 29 Jan. 1843 at St. Elphins. As of the 1851 Census, he was residing with >> his widowed mother, Ann WOOD, and two older brothers, Henry and James, at >> Market Place. His father, Henry WOOD, died 23 Aug. 1849, and Henry is >> buried in the St. Elphins church cemetery (as well as wife, Ann). >> Directories from 1838 to 1848 show that Henry WOOD was an earthenware >> dealer at 10 Market Place, who also ran a day school. >> >> I simply cannot find Samuel WOOD on any future census. Would the St. >> Elphins registers also have record of his death or marriage? If so, does >> someone have the ability to check the registers? I've tried searching >> the >> GRO index, and I've had a hard time making a meaningful search for him >> given the common nature of his names. >> >> I've also asked previously for an 1841 Census lookup for Henry and Ann >> WOOD. Given the directory, they should be residing at 10 Market Place. >> I'm particularly in need of Henry's birthplace. >> >> As always, any and all help is sincerely appreciated. >> >> Lisa Hopp >> Seattle, WA >> ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** >> ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier >> searching of the archives ** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** > ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier > searching of the archives ** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

1841 Market Place Henery Wood 35 school master Y Ann Wood 40 Y Henry Wood 1 Y James Wood 1 Y Ann Sutton 70 Y Jane Beurendale 15 Female Servant N and next door Thomas Sutton 40 Y ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig & Lisa Hopp" <fivehopps@comcast.net> To: <ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 11:36 AM Subject: [LAN-WARR] WOOD, Samuel > Hello again list, > > Still looking for the elusive Samuel Sutton WOOD, who was born abt. 1842 > in Warrington (per the GRO index, it appears his birth was registered > 4Q1842 in Warrington). Per Warrington parish registers, he was baptized > 29 Jan. 1843 at St. Elphins. As of the 1851 Census, he was residing with > his widowed mother, Ann WOOD, and two older brothers, Henry and James, at > Market Place. His father, Henry WOOD, died 23 Aug. 1849, and Henry is > buried in the St. Elphins church cemetery (as well as wife, Ann). > Directories from 1838 to 1848 show that Henry WOOD was an earthenware > dealer at 10 Market Place, who also ran a day school. > > I simply cannot find Samuel WOOD on any future census. Would the St. > Elphins registers also have record of his death or marriage? If so, does > someone have the ability to check the registers? I've tried searching the > GRO index, and I've had a hard time making a meaningful search for him > given the common nature of his names. > > I've also asked previously for an 1841 Census lookup for Henry and Ann > WOOD. Given the directory, they should be residing at 10 Market Place. > I'm particularly in need of Henry's birthplace. > > As always, any and all help is sincerely appreciated. > > Lisa Hopp > Seattle, WA > ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** > ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier > searching of the archives ** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lisa, You've omitted some vital information - birthplaces and years for his mother and his brothers. You also don't say if you have found any of them in later censuses. I suspect one of the following has happened. a) his mother remarried and he is listed under his father in law's surname in 1861 b) his surname has been mis-transcribed (but you would need this for 1861, 1871, 1881 ,1891 etc) c) they moved elsewhere in England or migrated d) they all died (not much chance) So you should be able to find one of the four in 1861 or subsequent censuses. This could provide some clues. I would also check FreeBMD & LancashireBMD for a re-marriage for his mother between 1849-1861. This would depend on her age. I would also try various searches of 1861 census. If Ann has an unusual birthplace, you could do a search for Ann born 18.. at ........... and leave out her surname. You could also search for Ann occupation widow of that age and birthplace. Also try finding his brothers. I would also do a place search of 10 Market Place in 1861. Another wildcard would be to try "Samuel Sutton Wood" in a Google search. The inverted commas mean the whole phrase has to occur together. I also wonder if you may not be too tight in your search criteria. Sometimes "less is best". Hope some of this brings results. Peter in Sydney