Is it possible for someone to look at a marriage that took place in the March 1/4 of 1864 in St Elphins of Sarah Ann Cattrall to James Fletcher. I would like to know if the brides father was Samuel Cattrall. Any help would be relay appreciated. Georgina --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes.

I have a couple of photos taken in 2002 showing the Ring o' Bells, Church Street if they are of any interest to Maureen. One of which also shows the church house next door and St. Elphins. Sadly there are cars around but it gives the essence of the area. Angie

Hi, Many thanks to Stan for the information on the Ring a bells. I have a vague memory of the Pub and the church alongside. Did not know as St Elphins but as Warrington Parish church...Also remember some small white painted shops in Church Street - on the opposite side of the street to the Church - one very small general shop was run by a lady called IDDON - I went to school with her daughter Jean. I imagine all these old buildings will have gone. Last time I was in Warrington (1984) I had difficulty finding my way around - and was surprised to see thet "Oliver Cromwell" had been moved from his stance opposite the Packet House in Bridge Street. Thank you again for the information. Best regards Maureen near Brisbane where we have the Q.E.11 in port. --------------------------------- Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on Yahoo! Answers.

Hello, I would be most interested to have any photos that listers may have. Is there a www. where the interest is in Warrington Pubs ?. I would so much like a photo of the Packet House Inn - I remember it well and have an artist's impression ot the "Tudor Room" which was added around 1935 when the pub was modernised. As a girl my Grandmother Louisa M Fair would take me to Bowling Greens at various Pubs - she belonged to the Lady Victuallers Bowling Club. Most of her friends were fellow Publicans - the Mullins Family at the "Old House at Home" included. --------------------------------- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.

Thanks Celia ----- Original Message ----- From: <Celiabailey@aol.com> To: <eng-lan-warrington@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 11:45 AM Subject: [LAN-WARR] WARRINGTON PUBS OF 1920 > Hello Ian > > According to my Directory 1908 there are just 2 pubs listed with prefix > Blue, The Blue Bell 27 Horsemarket Street which is still there and the > Blue Lion > Hotel Market Place which is no longer there. Not sure about the Imperial > (we used to call it The Imp), perhaps somebody else can tell you about > that one. > > Regards > Celia > > ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** > ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier > searching of the archives ** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There's a picture of the Ring o' Bells as it is now at a site called 'Olde Worlde Pubs'. I'm pleased to see that in updating it many of the original features of panelling, low ceilings etc have been retained, though it is now 'open-plan'. I'd forgotten the beer garden, which I don't recall ever being used. Stan -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stan Smith Sent: 23 February 2007 09:53 To: eng-lan-warrington@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAN-WARR] Warrington Pubs of 1920 The Ring o' Bells was, and I hope still is, right next to the parish Church of St Elphins, at the junction where Church Street turns into Manchester Road, an almost right-angle turn, opposite what used to be the enormous entrance gate of Rylands's wire-drawing works, where the red-hot and sometimes white-hot glowing furnaces were sometimes visible from the road. One can imagine these gave its workers, one of whom until 1955 was my uncle Arthur Smith, a wire drawer, a thirst that the Ring o' Bells tried hard to slake. It is in the foreground (on a viewer's right hand) of pictures of the church back to the 18th century, and was originally, I believe, a coaching inn, just before the road left the old centre of Warrington based on Church St. As recently as 25+ years ago the pub retained many of its original features, small rooms, low ceilings, a 'snug' bar and, if I recall rightly, an 'off-license', a small room accessed directly inside the pub door where children could collect ale when sent by their parents. I think the pub was being stripped out and 'modernised' at the time I last visited it, which was probably in 1980, when my dad died - it had been one of his locals and ditto of his family, who lived at the top of Howley Lane, just a stone's throw away. When this area was packed with terraced houses, both 'down Howley' and across the road in the wen of Streets off School Brow, many of whose tenants worked at Rylands's, it must have had a good regular trade, though it must be said there were a lot of other pubs within walking distance - the Brickmakers' Arms on School Brow, the General Wolfe in Church St, and the Marquis of Granby a little further along Church St, and others in the near vicinity. There's a photo of church and pub circa 1955 in the Frith Collection book 'Warrington: Photographic Memories', by Janice Hayes, p. 47. I don't know if this picture is on the Frith website, but it's worth checking. The pub looks little different from its appearance in 18th-century prints, some of which are surely in the Warrington Museum collection. Stan Smith -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maureen Sent: 23 February 2007 06:30 To: eng-lan-warrington@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAN-WARR] Warrington Pubs of 1920 Hello, I am most interested in Pubs of Warrington. My FAIR family were connected with both the "Millstone" and the "Talbot". Licensees of the Packet House Inn in Bridge for many years from around 1913. My GREEN family were at the Ring a Bells Church. On my Father's side we have Cuerdley Arms, Wellington, & Commercial Inn in the Widnes area. Do you have a special interest in the Pubs of the area and have you any information on any of the above. Would be most grateful for any details. Regards Maureen Qld Aus. Researching Fair,Green,Chambers,Wright, Webster, Grace. --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier searching of the archives ** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier searching of the archives ** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Ring o' Bells was, and I hope still is, right next to the parish Church of St Elphins, at the junction where Church Street turns into Manchester Road, an almost right-angle turn, opposite what used to be the enormous entrance gate of Rylands's wire-drawing works, where the red-hot and sometimes white-hot glowing furnaces were sometimes visible from the road. One can imagine these gave its workers, one of whom until 1955 was my uncle Arthur Smith, a wire drawer, a thirst that the Ring o' Bells tried hard to slake. It is in the foreground (on a viewer's right hand) of pictures of the church back to the 18th century, and was originally, I believe, a coaching inn, just before the road left the old centre of Warrington based on Church St. As recently as 25+ years ago the pub retained many of its original features, small rooms, low ceilings, a 'snug' bar and, if I recall rightly, an 'off-license', a small room accessed directly inside the pub door where children could collect ale when sent by their parents. I think the pub was being stripped out and 'modernised' at the time I last visited it, which was probably in 1980, when my dad died - it had been one of his locals and ditto of his family, who lived at the top of Howley Lane, just a stone's throw away. When this area was packed with terraced houses, both 'down Howley' and across the road in the wen of Streets off School Brow, many of whose tenants worked at Rylands's, it must have had a good regular trade, though it must be said there were a lot of other pubs within walking distance - the Brickmakers' Arms on School Brow, the General Wolfe in Church St, and the Marquis of Granby a little further along Church St, and others in the near vicinity. There's a photo of church and pub circa 1955 in the Frith Collection book 'Warrington: Photographic Memories', by Janice Hayes, p. 47. I don't know if this picture is on the Frith website, but it's worth checking. The pub looks little different from its appearance in 18th-century prints, some of which are surely in the Warrington Museum collection. Stan Smith -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maureen Sent: 23 February 2007 06:30 To: eng-lan-warrington@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAN-WARR] Warrington Pubs of 1920 Hello, I am most interested in Pubs of Warrington. My FAIR family were connected with both the "Millstone" and the "Talbot". Licensees of the Packet House Inn in Bridge for many years from around 1913. My GREEN family were at the Ring a Bells Church. On my Father's side we have Cuerdley Arms, Wellington, & Commercial Inn in the Widnes area. Do you have a special interest in the Pubs of the area and have you any information on any of the above. Would be most grateful for any details. Regards Maureen Qld Aus. Researching Fair,Green,Chambers,Wright, Webster, Grace. --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier searching of the archives ** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I am most interested in Pubs of Warrington. My FAIR family were connected with both the "Millstone" and the "Talbot". Licensees of the Packet House Inn in Bridge for many years from around 1913. My GREEN family were at the Ring a Bells Church. On my Father's side we have Cuerdley Arms, Wellington, & Commercial Inn in the Widnes area. Do you have a special interest in the Pubs of the area and have you any information on any of the above. Would be most grateful for any details. Regards Maureen Qld Aus. Researching Fair,Green,Chambers,Wright, Webster, Grace. --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.

Hi Jo, I would do the admin for you if you like. I am currently running a quiet Rootsweb surname list, and this one doesn't seem too busy for me to cope with if you'd consider me. Regards Neil

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Hello listers, your friendly admin here. I've a dilemma... I'm emigrating to the sunny (not) climes of Southern Ireland within the next few months (probably end-April), and might not have internet connection for awhile. Is there anyone out there who'd be willing to host this mailing-list whilst I am off-line? There's not a lot to do, just check on bounces' and advise people if they can't figure out what to do, unsub etc. Hoping for a kind soul to answer, but not holding my breath, Jo

Don't know, but I'd welcome one... Stan Smith -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Celiabailey@aol.com Sent: 22 February 2007 00:39 To: ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN-WARR] HELP WITH ADDRESS 1850s Hello All While transcribing for Lancs OPC I keep coming across an address 'House of Recovery' in Warrington. Has anybody ever heard of this and if so where was it? Regards Celia ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier searching of the archives ** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sadly Steve, Rootsweb doesn't allow attachments on the mail-lists. Could you perhaps send it to the person concerned off-list please Jo list admin -------Original Message------- From: Steve Baryschpolec Date: 02/22/07 15:36:48 To: eng-lan-warrington@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAN-WARR] Warrington Pubs of 1920 Hi Attached is a jpg of the Blue Bell pub in Horsemarket Street. Sorry I don t have pictures of the others {Imperial, or blue lion!} Cheers mate Steve B Clinton, NJ, USA Ian Wright <IanWright2@bigpond.com> wrote: Dear Listers, I have 2 Warrington hotels mentioned in my G.Grandfather's 1920 Obituary; one is the Bewsey Imperial Hotel, the other is the Blue something Hotel. Does anybody know of these establishments & are they still going?? Thanks, Ian Wright in Oz. ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier searching of the archives ** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier searching of the archives ** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You need to watch out for alternative spellings of Thomson. I have a James Thomason in my father's maternal lineage in Warrington, and I know that there were variant spellings of the family name. Stan Smith -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-warrington-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Sent: 15 February 2007 14:37 To: eng-lan-warrington@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN-WARR] MONKS in Poulton Hello Bernice, I have had a look for you and found Joseph MONKS in the 1841 census. They are found living at 'Lodge' Poulton, ref HO107/521/2: Joseph MONKS, 40, Ag Lab - all Yes (b. in Lancs) Ellen, 35 Mary, 10 (1831) Margaret, 8 (1833) Joseph, 6 (1835) John, 4 (1837) George, 1 (1840) I found birth registration references for some of the children at FreeBMD: John Birth Dec 1837 Warrington Vol 20 page 499 George Birth Jun 1840 Warrington Vol 20 page 81 Elizabeth Birth Jun 1844 Warrington Vol 20 page 917 Ann Birth Dec 1847 Warrington Vol 20 page 875 As for Annie Monks marriage - I can not find her marrying a James Thomson in the FreeBMD (that was an all counties search). I have found an Ann Monks married to either a Denis Myers or a John Wadden - Mar 1872 Warrington Vol 8c page 197. I suggest trying the Lancashire BMD site and see if the marriage can be found there. Hope that will help you. Jennifer in BC, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernice" <robber43@optusnet.com.au> To: <eng-lan-warrington@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 3:12 AM Subject: [LAN-WARR] MONKS > Hi, I am new to this list I am searching for ANNIE MONKS born > circa1848 father JOSEPH mother ELLEN living 1851 in Poulton She is > supposed to be married in 1872 to JAMES THOMSON. She is in Australia > in 1874. I found her birth but as yet have not found her in 1861 or > 1871 census also I cannot find her marriage can anyone help at all? > Bernice Thomson in dry Queensland Australia > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/687 - Release Date: > 14/02/2007 > 4:17 pm > > ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** > ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier > searching of the archives ** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier searching of the archives ** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi, I am wondering if anyone else on this list is looking for links to a family of PRESTONs, living in warrington from around early 1850,s,, my gt gt grandfather was a WILLIAM PRESTON, he came over to england from galway ireland, and in 1859 he married a MARGARET KELLY she was also from galway. their daughter MARY ELLEN was my gt grandmother. WILLIAM was the son of MARTIN PRESTON, of who I know nothing. I know that my WILLIAM married 3 times, but stayed in warrington until his death. does any of this ring any bells? if so, would love to hear from you. regards maggi _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

I'd like to nominate Sue in South Australia, one of our very committed listers (and pretty good techy as well). T. Birchall Jo <jo@fruitcats.co.uk> wrote: Hello listers, your friendly admin here. I've a dilemma... I'm emigrating to the sunny (not) climes of Southern Ireland within the next few months (probably end-April), and might not have internet connection for awhile. Is there anyone out there who'd be willing to host this mailing-list whilst I am off-line? There's not a lot to do, just check on bounces' and advise people if they can't figure out what to do, unsub etc. Hoping for a kind soul to answer, but not holding my breath, Jo ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier searching of the archives ** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers, I have 2 Warrington hotels mentioned in my G.Grandfather's 1920 Obituary; one is the Bewsey Imperial Hotel, the other is the Blue something Hotel. Does anybody know of these establishments & are they still going?? Thanks, Ian Wright in Oz.

Hi Attached is a jpg of the Blue Bell pub in Horsemarket Street. Sorry I don't have pictures of the others {Imperial, or blue lion!} Cheers mate Steve B Clinton, NJ, USA Ian Wright <IanWright2@bigpond.com> wrote: Dear Listers, I have 2 Warrington hotels mentioned in my G.Grandfather's 1920 Obituary; one is the Bewsey Imperial Hotel, the other is the Blue something Hotel. Does anybody know of these establishments & are they still going?? Thanks, Ian Wright in Oz. ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier searching of the archives ** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.

Hello Ian According to my Directory 1908 there are just 2 pubs listed with prefix Blue, The Blue Bell 27 Horsemarket Street which is still there and the Blue Lion Hotel Market Place which is no longer there. Not sure about the Imperial (we used to call it The Imp), perhaps somebody else can tell you about that one. Regards Celia

Hello All While transcribing for Lancs OPC I keep coming across an address 'House of Recovery' in Warrington. Has anybody ever heard of this and if so where was it? Regards Celia