Hi Desiree There was the The Boer War in South Africa, 1899-1902 . http://history1900s.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=history1900s&zu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geocities.com%2FAthens%2FAcropolis%2F8141%2Fboerwar.html Is this him on the LDS IGI? THOMAS BRAITHWAITE Male Christening: 15 DEC 1861 Great Sankey, Lancashire, England Parents: Father: JAMES BRAITHWAITE Mother: MARGARET Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C033451 1728 - 1875 0093740 Film 6909464 Film Sheet: 00 NOTE: Found in 1871 census of England with same parents *********************** On automatedgenealogy.com there is a TB about same age but says born Ontario. He does show up in 1881 for Canada with some of same siblings also born Ontario. So not a very likely candidate. http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/index.html 1901 Census of Canada Page Information Province: Ontario District:ON WENTWORTH & BRANT (North/Nord) (#127) Subdistrict:Ancaster A-6 Page 1 Details:Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6505 Hope this helps Murray Jones Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada .................................................... ----- Original Message ----- From: "C & D Braithwaite" <colinbra@telusplanet.net> To: <ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:29 PM Subject: [LAN-WARR ] BRAITHWAITE > Hi all, maybe a silly question ... > > But ... can anyone tell me whether there was a war on during > 1891 - 1901 ? > > I know of War of The Roses and WW1 and WW11 ... > > I am trying to make sense of why our ancestor Thomas BRAITHWAITE > born abt > 1861 (baptized Dec 1861) would not have been found on census > after 1891. > Family say he immigrated to USA or Canada. > > An uncle of one of our great uncles, invited him to work for him > in the > holidays and he would therefore pay for his university tuition. > This > particular uncle ended up attaining his BA degree in Ontario, > Canada. I can > only think the uncle must have come to Canada ... but ... can > find no trace. > > Can anyone help ? > > The family hailed from Warrington. I have tried contacting the > library > there, but no reply. > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Hi all, maybe a silly question ... But ... can anyone tell me whether there was a war on during 1891 - 1901 ? I know of War of The Roses and WW1 and WW11 ... I am trying to make sense of why our ancestor Thomas BRAITHWAITE born abt 1861 (baptized Dec 1861) would not have been found on census after 1891. Family say he immigrated to USA or Canada. An uncle of one of our great uncles, invited him to work for him in the holidays and he would therefore pay for his university tuition. This particular uncle ended up attaining his BA degree in Ontario, Canada. I can only think the uncle must have come to Canada ... but ... can find no trace. Can anyone help ? The family hailed from Warrington. I have tried contacting the library there, but no reply. I am frustrated and do not know where to turn. This Thomas was a tailor. I have put posting on the list 2005 and just recent (in fact this am). We are visiting UK this mid year and I would love to try and find something before we do this. Regards Desiree Calgary Canada

Hi all, This is just a shot in the dark. VAN DALEN - HAWKINS Nellie Cornelia married a HAWKINS gentleman and left for England. I am searching for a family member, Nellie Cornelia HAWKINS. Nellie was born in South Africa 24 December 1901 and married a sailor, George HAWKINS before leaving with 5 children for England. We do not know anything more about her. Can u help ? Desiree Calgary Canada

-----Original Message----- From: C & D Braithwaite [mailto:colinbra@telusplanet.net] Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 11:08 PM To: ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN-WARR ] Thomas BRAITHWAITE Hi there, I am just wondering if anyone can help me with the above child last seen at age 29 on 1891 census still living at home with his parents. In family letters he is mentioned as being spoken of in a "hush hush way". Thomas (* 15 December 1861) was a tailor by trade and after his mother's death, left home (Canada or USA). His father stayed behind living and supporting himself. Father : James BRAITHWAITE ~ 15 August 1828, Warrington, Lanc Mother : Margaret (SPARKS - Frodsham Cheshire) ~ 21 October Frodsham, Cheshire - (Margaret's Father : Joseph SPARKS) Thomas had other brothers and sisters : Mary Ellen, Joseph, Dinah, Annie, Alice, Thomas's father was reared by his grandfather. Is there any advice or assistance for me please, in locating our "elusive" Thomas ? We have touched base today with more BRAITHWAITE family members whilst on our holiday and all seem to originally hail from Yorkshire. I have many missing pieces and would like to fix these. Does anyone know the original origins of the BRAITHWAITE/BREATHERD family. I only know a brief bit of how they came from Scotland to Yorkshire. Can anyone shed any light on these questions above. Apologies for the lengthiness of this query but I have tried to set it out for easy reading. Kind Regards Desiree Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Kristina, As far as I know all the marriages and most of the christenings for that period are in the IGI ( www.familysearch.org) . There does seem to a period about 1800 where there's only female baptisms there and there are no burials. If you live within travelling distance of Warrington the Warrington Library have microfilm copies of all the local church registers. It's a small frielndly library and I can recommend it. I think the original registers are in Chester Record Office but I'm not sure. Manchester Central Library also has copies some of the registers for St Elphin's; it has transcripts of some that were written by the Lancashire Parish Record Society but have not yet been published. They are not on open shelves so you need to phone before your visit to arrange to see them. If you visit their web site you'll get more information.(google manchester central library) Otherwise you can contact the Family History Centre at your nearest Mormon Church; they can borrow microfilm copies which you can view. Cedric

Hello List, I have just subscribed to this list & am new to lists so please bear with me. Can anybody help? I am researching my family tree & have been for quite a few years. I have been stuck looking for 1 baptism for yrs & despite some trips to Manchester & Chester I have found it. My ancestor Edward NEWTON was b c1821/2. He was born in Warrington according to the 1861 census & in 1871 more specfically listed the place of Wilderpool. I have searched Warrington & some Wilderpool records found in Chesters record Office to no avail. I only know that his father was George Newton. I have not found them on the 1841 census - in 1846 he married in Salford. I believe they were non Conformists & ? may have been German Jews & rumour has it that they were from Newton- Le Willows. What & where do I look next?? Regards Jackie Is it approiate to post questions like this to these types of lists?

Hi, Do any of you know how can I get christening, death and marriage records for St Elphins with date range 1750-1809? I am very new to this so please have patience with me! Kristina

Many thanks to Stan Smith and Sue Kinsella for their replies to my query. I am now going to order a microfilm of Muster Books into my local LDS, where "fingers crossed" I will find my John McQUADE (McQUEED) who was the father of Charles b.1803 as found in St. Elphins Baptism records. Would love to hear from anyone having information of the McQUADE family from Warrington. Betty New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: Betty wilson [mailto:jbwilson@clear.net.nz] Sent: 23 February 2006 22:45 To: ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN-WARR ] Military Barracks/Regiments Was there Army Barracks in or around Warrington in the early 1800s, if so, does anyone know the regiments which might have been stationed there? Jean in Adelaide has kindly found a baptism for me in 1803 where the father is shown as a "soldier", so I now need to try to trace him. Hope someone can help. Betty in New Zealand ==== ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON Mailing List ==== ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier searching of the archives ** ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.0.0/267 - Release Date: 22/02/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.0.0/267 - Release Date: 22/02/2006

Was there Army Barracks in or around Warrington in the early 1800s, if so, does anyone know the regiments which might have been stationed there? Jean in Adelaide has kindly found a baptism for me in 1803 where the father is shown as a "soldier", so I now need to try to trace him. Hope someone can help. Betty in New Zealand

Hello list! Like all of us, I have used a lot of family myth and lore to help me find solid facts to support events and relationships in my family tree. There is usually a morsel of truth somewhere in a story handed down to me if the layers of it can be peeled away to expose it. It is through one particular story surrounding my Sleddall family that I've been able to unearth many new details which correct previous misunderstandings. I have been searching (without much success) for my gr-gr grandmother, Mary Theresa Sleddall, in her childhood. She was born 24 April 1842 to Thomas Sleddall and Mary Sewell in Carlisle. No matter how far flung the descendents of my family are now, we all were told that Mary Theresa was from a wealthy family, disinherited for marrying beneath her. Mary Theresa's father, Thomas Sleddall, *was* a wealthy "Gentleman" of some standing from the town of Kendal. Thomas' older brother, John Sleddall, used his fortune to build the Sleddall Almshouses in Kendal,! as well as support other philanthropic causes. John Sleddall died without having children. It was always the supposition that Mary Theresa's father was John Sleddall, and she should have been heir to his money. When in fact, this inheritance wasn't necessarily due to her because her father was *not* John Sleddall. Mary Theresa's father, Thomas Sleddall, died 6 October 1843 as a result of an accidental overdose of laundanum administered by his wife Mary. So, Mary, who was pregnant with her second child (named Elizabeth), was a young widow left to care for the infant Mary Theresa. I have found Mary Sewell Sleddall on the 1851 Census (surname misspelled Sleddale) in Botchergate, Carlisle living with an infant daughter Ann. I believe Ann was an illegitimate daughter since no father was named on the birth certificate. There is no sign of Mary Theresa and her sister Elizabeth in 1851. Later that year, infant Ann died. As of the 1861 Census, Mary Sewell Sleddall is still residing in Botchergate, Carlisle, now with son John William. I believe John William is also an illegitimate child since no father was named on his birth certificate. Mary Theresa does re-appear, but in Warrington as a confectioner's apprentice in Market Gate. Still no sign of sister Elizabeth. Mary Theresa and Elizabeth married in Warrington. Mary Theresa to Henry Wood on 24 May 1868, and Elizabeth to Frederick Tongue in 1876. I don't think these two young, single women would make their way to Warrington from Carlisle without something bringing them there. And this is where the family lore comes in. I was told that Mary Theresa was raised in a convent. Maybe there was a convent in Warrington where the girls spent their childhood? I would presume their mother felt incapable of raising the girls without a husband and placed them there? I have found a marriage entry on the GRO index for Mary Sleddall in Carlisle, 4Q1864. I am expecting that certificate at any time. However, I don't think the marriage certificate will give me anything to further the story of Mary Theresa. Does anyone on this list have a suggestion as to what happened to Mary Theresa? Why she doesn't appear on the 1851 Census? How she could re-emerge in Warrington as a 17 year old girl working as an apprentice? I hope this story wasn't too long-winded that you listers gave up reading after the first paragraph! Lisa Hopp Seattle, WA

Hi Ian Image sent off list. Regards Maureen -----Original Message----- From: ian.plimmer@ntlworld.com [mailto:ian.plimmer@ntlworld.com] Sent: 21 February 2006 13:34 To: ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN-WARR ] STOCKTON Does sks have access to 1851 census for Warrington? In 1861 I have the following in the St Paul's area of Warrington (address, 9 Back unreadable? or is it Buckley? Street) Thomas STOCKTON hd 56 sawyer Mary wf 52 Richard son 14 lab Margaret dau 26 fustian cutter William son 24 house painter all born Warrington thank you. ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information ==== ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON Mailing List ==== ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier searching of the archives ** ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Does sks have access to 1851 census for Warrington? In 1861 I have the following in the St Paul's area of Warrington (address, 9 Back unreadable? or is it Buckley? Street) Thomas STOCKTON hd 56 sawyer Mary wf 52 Richard son 14 lab Margaret dau 26 fustian cutter William son 24 house painter all born Warrington thank you. ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information

Hi looking for info on Daniel Cooper blacksmith Sankey bridge Warrington, wife Sarah Cooper , Daniel & Sarah are my Gt Gt Granparents, they had a daughter Mary circa 1829, my Gt grandmother,I believe Daniel & Sarah came from Oldham originally, any help greatly appreciated Don Smith

Hello Ian These could be yours. Does look like could be STOCKTON on image. 1851 Census of England Civil parish: Warrington Ecclesiatical parish: St Paul Town: Warrington County/Island: Lancashire Street address: Buckley? Court Source information: HO107/2203 Registration district: Warrington Sub-registration district: Warrington ED, institution, or vessel: 1w Folio: 580 Page: 2 Household schedule number: 7 GSU Number: 87213 Name Est_Birth_Yr Birthplace Relationship Occupation Thomas Llockton abt 1801 Warrington, Lancashire Head Sawyer Mary Llockton abt 1802 Landerland Wife Domestic duties? Thomas Llockton abt 1832 Warrington, Lancashire Son Cotton Spinner Margaret Llockton abt 1837 Warrington, Lancashire Daughter James Llockton abt 1838 Warrington, Lancashire Son Pin? header Richard Llockton abt 1847 Warrington, Lancashire Son Scholar Elizabeth Llockton abt 1850 Warrington, Lancashire Daughter Murray Jones Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada .................................................... ----- Original Message ----- From: <ian.plimmer@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:34 AM Subject: [LAN-WARR ] STOCKTON > Does sks have access to 1851 census for Warrington? > > In 1861 I have the following in the St Paul's area of Warrington > (address, 9 Back unreadable? or is it Buckley? Street) > > Thomas STOCKTON hd 56 sawyer > Mary wf 52 > Richard son 14 lab > Margaret dau 26 fustian cutter > William son 24 house painter > > all born Warrington .............................

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EDGAR, Thomas - exact dob and place unknown, but father of: EDGAR, Thomas b. abt. 1816 in Warrington m. 20 May 1838 St. Paul's, Warrington to Ann DRINKWATER b. abt. 1811 in Warrington. Father of Ann, Joseph DRINKWATER, date and place of birth unknown. Thomas EDGAR and Ann DRINKWATER had son. Joseph Thomas EDGAR - b abt. 1839 in Warrington. He was married in the June 1870 qtr to Mary PASSEY in Wales, but they returned to Warrington later.

Jean, Saw your message to Sue. If you still have the film for St. Elphin, Warrington, would you mind checking for a baptism for a Charles McQUADE b.c. 1803 in Warrington. Many thanks Betty (New Zealand) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Parker" <jeanparker@internode.on.net> To: <ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 4:53 AM Subject: [LAN-WARR ] RE; BRIMELOW > Dear Sue, > > Tired sending you a email off list but it came back. So here i go again. > > I have out a film from St Elphins Parish, Warrington the dates are: > > Marriages 1743- 1784 > Baptisms 1760-1812 > Burials 1760-1779 > Film no 1562957 > > I found a Pears Brimelow marriage to Esther Davenport in 1773 so far, is > this your Peers and if it is would you like a copy? > > upon looking for Betty Jameson born 1784 ( I now have her death > certificate > 1848 given age 64yrs) I have come up empty, the pages for July and August > 1784 are unreadable. > > I did find 3 marriages of Jameson's > 1. Peter Jameson married Betty Lanlefs in 1781 > 2.John Jameson married mary Frangleton in 1784 > 3. Joseph Jameson married Mary ------ in 1776 > > the 2 for 1781 and 1784 are promising, but ther does not seem to be any > children born after that date. i will look more closely on Monday. Maybe > they got married here and then moved away. > > An an entry of ------(can't read) daug of Betty jameson illegitimate in > Sept > 1784 > > I was wondering if you had a access to these records over there on fisch > and > could look up the July and August 1784 that i can't read? > > If there is anything else you would like me to look for on this film for > you > please let me know as there are a few Brimelow's. > > Hope to hear from you soon. > > Regards > > Jean Parker ( Adelaide, South Australia) > > > ==== ENG-LAN-WARRINGTON Mailing List ==== > ** PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT HEADING WHEN E-MAILING THE LIST ** > ** PLEASE REMOVE "signatures" from your e-mails to facilitate easier > searching of the archives ** > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Dear Betty, No problem at all, only to pleased to help. I will be gong back to the LDS church on Monday. maybe you can help me with a other member of my family who went to live in New Zealand, or maybe you can point me in the right direction. here goes: Harry Lavington born bet. April - June 1927 in Cardiff, Wales , he went to New Zealand and was in the short film industry on TV. It was called "Close to Home" in Sept 1976 he went back home for his parents 50th Wedding celebrations. He was also in " Don't Let It Get You" i am trying to find either him or any of his family , but i have no idea of where to look in New Zealand. Harry Lavington's father Harry was my grandfather's brother. My hope was to make contact and when i come over to New Zealand in May maybe i can see them. Hope to hear from you soon. Kind regards Jean Parker ( Adelaide, South Australia)

Dear Sue, Tired sending you a email off list but it came back. So here i go again. I have out a film from St Elphins Parish, Warrington the dates are: Marriages 1743- 1784 Baptisms 1760-1812 Burials 1760-1779 Film no 1562957 I found a Pears Brimelow marriage to Esther Davenport in 1773 so far, is this your Peers and if it is would you like a copy? upon looking for Betty Jameson born 1784 ( I now have her death certificate 1848 given age 64yrs) I have come up empty, the pages for July and August 1784 are unreadable. I did find 3 marriages of Jameson's 1. Peter Jameson married Betty Lanlefs in 1781 2.John Jameson married mary Frangleton in 1784 3. Joseph Jameson married Mary ------ in 1776 the 2 for 1781 and 1784 are promising, but ther does not seem to be any children born after that date. i will look more closely on Monday. Maybe they got married here and then moved away. An an entry of ------(can't read) daug of Betty jameson illegitimate in Sept 1784 I was wondering if you had a access to these records over there on fisch and could look up the July and August 1784 that i can't read? If there is anything else you would like me to look for on this film for you please let me know as there are a few Brimelow's. Hope to hear from you soon. Regards Jean Parker ( Adelaide, South Australia)

help required 1901, William NAYLOR aged 24 from Newton Le Willows, Lancashire as a porter at the Baslow Hydro Hotel, Derbyshire I know it was destroyed by a fire, did William return to the area? Anyone have links to this man? many thanks Ian. ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information