Doreen Thanks for your email. I have printed out the legible pages that I have from the 1841 census CD for Middleton containing the name Hilton and I am collating it, so far I have 139 INDIVIDUAL Hiltons and I am nowhere near finished! Unfortunately none of them, as yet, that I can connect to our Hiltons. In 1858 Robert, occupation also Dyer, married Ann Woodcock, both living at 10 TEIGNMOUTH STREET, which is in the St Georges area of Manchester. On the 1861 census they are still living at the same address with what I presume are Anns mother and her stepfather, 2 children of their own and Anns sister and a step brother and sister. From then on I have them on various birth certificates of their other children and the 1871 and 1881 census all around the Hulme and Cheetham districts. Ann died in 1880, in 1881 they lived at Lorn Street, Hulme. Robert remarried in 1884 in Broughton and by 1885 the whole family had moved to Leek in Staffordshire and we have a complete history of them from then on. I do not have a marriage record for John and Elizabeth Hilton, the earliest record I have is the baptism of Robert in 1835 at St Leonards Church, Middleton. Sandy & John Devlin ----- Original Message ----- From: "doreen EL-AHWANY" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Hiltons > Hi John, > Re: 1841 census for Middleton. > There are about 10 pages on the film for the Middleton area that are > illegible. I may be mistaken, but think this is the Bowlee area and part of > Rhodes. (The whole of the 1841 was recorded in pencil, which had > unfortunately faded even before filming). > The CD version seems to be the same, but also may not contain the whole of > the Tonge area. There appears to be some pages missing, but the main > Middleton pages are not too bad. Have you used the surname index at all? > (available from Lancs FH & HS). > Do you know which area your Hiltons are from, as you say you are also > searching Manchester, which is a huge place. Do census records from 1861 > onwards give any specific area? > > I have looked for a Robert Hilton recently in Middleton (1841) and not found > him - perhaps for someone on this list? (Cannot locate my notes). He was > most likely to have been on the illegible pages. > > The 1834/5 Middleton Trade Directory doesn`t show a John Hilton, dyer. (have > this at home plus some other yrs). > > Do you have the marriage record for John and Elizabeth? > > P.S. The 1851 census has around 90 different Hilton families in Middleton!! > > Doreen. > > > We live in Cambridge and unfortunately do not have access to the 1851 > > Manchester census but thanks for the thought. > > > > Sandy & John Devlin > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.586 / Virus Database: 371 - Release Date: 12/02/2004 > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, > you should send the command "unsubscribe" to [email protected] > (if in mail mode) or [email protected] (if in digest mode.) > To switch from one mode to the other, you should unsubscribe from one > and then subscribe to the other. If you > want messages to stop, you should simply unsubscribe.