Hi Stephen, Haven`t got the 1851 census at home, but have you got the 1871census details? The family would probably be in Tonge, and Mr. Oldham could be there. Can search this if req. Doreen. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.586 / Virus Database: 371 - Release Date: 12/02/2004