Dear Laura, Not at all- I just do thank you for taking the time to help me. Rachel's father's name would have been JAMES, however, not John. James Wolstenholme, and wife, Jane. They had something like 11 children. Rachel, somewhere in the middle, was born April 8, 1820. The Kay side is John. He was born around 1820 (give or take a year). If you have time to have another look, I would certainly appreciate. Many thanks! Helen