Hi Allan, We are probably related somewhere along the line. I too have Birchalls in Newton in Makerfield and Wests from the Blackburn/Chadderton areas. Christopher West died <1857 was a grocer Christopher West son b 1839 Accrigton Manager at gasworks Henry Stanislus West son b 1870 Accrington, millwright I have a marriage of Thomas Roscoe to Isabella Birchall 1824 St Helens, they lived in Newton In Makerfield. Although I realise they are common names in both areas. There are several people on the Warrington and Newton Lists also researching Birchalls in the area and I seem to remember a link from genuki to Lancashire FHS where there are volunteers doing lookups and one in particular for Wests in Blackburn. Laura V. ----------------------------------------- Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/