Hi Colleen, The only way to find births and deaths is by searching the GRO indexes, and you can do this yourself online. There is freeBMD at http://www.freebmd.org.uk and also 1837 online - haven`t got this site marked down but you`ll be able to find it on a search. The latter one is a paying site though. Have you got the census details with the birthplaces on? You will also need the marriage details of Thomas and Henrietta before you can find the birth of Henrietta.This will give her maiden name. These also can be found on the GRO indexes, and it may be worth while checking out LancsBMD for the marriage. http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk Best of luck, Doreen. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.10.7/70 - Release Date: 11/08/2005