Sharon, Thanks for the offer of help. I have my G G Parents marriage certificate. Edward's Overton's occupation was Iron driller ( labourer in Iron Foundry) his Father also Edward (deceased), Selfactur (no idea what that is) G G Mother Winifred was a Cardroom hand married 7/4/1888. Children in order Edward, Thomas 17/12/1890, Margaret (Maggie) and Walter I think. Where would you look? I have tried previously every possible spelling corruption of the name I can think of but can't find a single one on 1901 census.I also checked all the houses in Canon St where Thomas was born- no luck. Sorry for the delay in answering, the original bounced back undelivered. Anne