Hello Doreen, Many thanks for your reply. I would appreciate you having a look at the registers when it is convenient for you. No hurry, this info has been dormant for me for quite a while, so a little longer will not hurt :-)) I have managed to find a JOHN HOWARTH marrying a BETTY CLEGG on the IGI on 24th May 1804 at Middleton by Oldham. I don't know if this a connection or not. Once again many thanks for your offer. Kind Regards Helen