Nice to hear from you Alan. Leo Augustus Ignatius to give him his full name was born in Mossley, Lancs. Wife Elizabeth born Stalybridge, Annie in Ashton-u-L, Mabel, Alfred and Gilbert in Dukinfield so they got around a lot. I have access to the 1881 & 91 census and I was hoping someone might have known a descendant of the family e.g. someone with a grandad called Alfred or Gilbert. Leo and wife were married on 6 Sep 1890 at the Register Office in Ashton so it looks as though they were not Catholics though Leo's parents were. Possibly therefore the children were not married in church but things could change. Don't know if you can help further but thanks for your offer. Regards, Alf