Looking at http://www.familysearch.org you can see some records for Thomas Jaques: 1881 Census 97 Higher Wood Street Middleton in Oldham, Lanc Thomas JAQUES Head W 58 B. Middleton Laborer in Chemical Works Betty WRIGLEY Niece U 32 B. Middleton Cotton Weaver Alice FIELDING Boarder U 19 B. Middleton Silk Weaver Shows Thomas Jaques birthyear as 1823. In a sepearate record. There also shows a Thomas Jaques born before 1825 and birth/marriage in <Rawcliffe, Yorkshire, England>. Thomas Jaques father is shown as another "Thomas". Shows marriage to Hannah Maria STENNIT Marriage: 20 Apr 1846 Rawcliffe, Yorkshire, England. Of course the marriage record may have improperly listed place of birth... Can't find any ABRAHAM matches for your time frame. Regards, Bill Rhodes -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 2:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Jaques from Thornham I wonder if anyone can help with this query?My ancestor Thomas Jaques was born circa 1825 somewhere around Middleton. I had never been able to find Thomas or his father Abraham in either the 1841 or 1851 censuses. Eventually I did find a Thomas of the right age living with his grandfather on Boardman Lane Middleton in 1841.This made me wonder if Abraham Jaques may have died As it is not a usual name I took a chance on a death certificate for an Abraham Jaques who died in 1839 which told me that he had been a weaver from Thornham who died aged 39 of consumption. I have previously looked for Abraham in the Middleton Marriage Registers with no success and so I am now trying to spread my net wider.On Genuki I looked at the church database to see which churches would have been nearest to Thornham and would have been founded by 1839.I found the following : Dog Road/Cotton Street Royton (Particular Baptist) St. John,Royton(Wesleyan Methodist) St Paul's (C of E) Royton Rochdale Road East Congregational Heywood. The next nearest after this was St Leonards Middleton. Does anyone have any idea where I could find the registers for these churches? Are any of them available on databases or in ways that don't involve travelling to either Middleton or Manchester. Also has anyone any further ideas,at the moment while it could be that the right Abraham or Thomas it is by no means proven. Regards Sue ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~emmaw/ for free Web Editor software. Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi