Hello again. I am struggling to find John FOGG married before 1860 possibly at Middleton as his daughter was born Middleton. His daughter married Alexander SMITH and his father was John SMITH. I am looking for the marriage of John FOGG and the marriage of John SMITH both before 1860. Joan at Devon

Joan, I wonder whether both of them could have married at Prestwich St Mary? Doreen. ----- Original Message ----- > Hello again. I am struggling to find John FOGG married before 1860 possibly > at Middleton as his daughter was born Middleton. > His daughter married Alexander SMITH and his father was John SMITH. > I am looking for the marriage of John FOGG and the marriage of John SMITH > both before 1860. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.518 / Virus Database: 316 - Release Date: 11/09/2003

Dear Doreen, after sending my enquiry I went back to trawling the 1861 census and was lucky enough to find my SMITH family on Oldham Road. Alexander was one of the youngest children so the marriage was in 1836. I was lucky again in finding the marriage on the IGI at Bolton where Margaret the wife was born. Their first child was baptised at the same church St Peter's. It goes to show how wrong you can be in assuming they would have had their children in the first 20 years. They had one at 23 still at home and one at 3 months. The last two born at Middleton. I believe John was two years younger than his wife ( I found her baptism) but in 1861 they were the same age but by 1881 he was two years older. I now have the family on three census. I am going back to trawl for FOGG now. BTW John Smith was born Middle Hulton. Thanks for trying to help. Regards Joan