Helen in Germany There is a James Henry Kay chr Oldham, Lancashire 12th Oct 1842, son of John Kay and Rachael Wolstenholme/Woolstenhulme and a Samuel Kay chr Oldham 28th Feb 1846, born to the same John Kay and Rachael Wolstenholme. Oldham is circa 3,6 miles from Middleton. Try the same names in the IGI - _http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp) Tony in Manchester ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi Tony in Manchester, Would you be able to look up any KAY christenings in Manchester, 1841, for a son, born to John Kay and Rachel (Wolstenholme)? They were married at St. Leonard's in Middleton, had three children before leaving the country, but I cannot find any christening records for their children. You may have offered the explanation for that-perhaps they were christened in Manchester... Many thanks in advance for your help. Helen in Germany