Thanks, Alan-Actually, I have only discovered my family came from Oldham this week, and I know very little about what is available there. I found my 3x Great-Grandfather, John Kay, was born there 14 May, 1820, christened at Greenacres Ind. Methodist Church on Sept. 10, 1820, and his first two sons were christened there, too, in the 1840s. I guess I am looking for an address for him and his wife, Rachel. Do you have access, by any chance, to the 1841 census? They would have been newlyweds at that time. His parents' address would also interest me, as well as their dates of birth and death. They are Hannah and James Kay (I know, totally common names...) Church registers? Haven't found much available online. I wonder if there is a way to know where he was employed as a cotton spinner in Oldham. I think his father had the same occupation. I also wonder (and I am looking for information online) about how many people emigrated from Oldham in the 1840s to Philadelphia, and why, etc. Is KAY still a common name in Oldham? Any good sources you can direct me to, or museums in the area you can point me to should I manage to get over there (I live in Germany) would be much appreciated. But esp., a look-up in the 1841 census for John and his parents would be fantastic! Many thanks for your friendliness, Helen Helen Kay Gelinas Stoeffelbergweg 7 72124 Pliezhausen Germany

Hi Helen Just chipping in with my two penn'orth! I can't at the moment help you with the 1841 Census - I have purchased the CDs, but Oldham is a huge area to search, and I just don't have the time right now. Maybe someone else will have access to an Index which will have all the KAYs listed. I really just wanted to direct you to the Oldham Local Studies website if you haven't already been there - http://www.oldham.gov.uk/community/local_studies.htm It lists a lot of the sources available at the library, which someone may be able to look up for you if you have details of what you need. I know that there are really helpful volunteers at the library too, so it may be worth an email to them. Good luck with your research Janet Curran >From: Ghgel@aol.com >Reply-To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Re: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-D Digest V05 #118 >Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 06:58:22 EDT > >Thanks, Alan-Actually, I have only discovered my family came from Oldham >this week, and I know very little about what is available there. I found my >3x >Great-Grandfather, John Kay, was born there 14 May, 1820, christened at >Greenacres Ind. Methodist Church on Sept. 10, 1820, and his first two sons >were >christened there, too, in the 1840s. > >I guess I am looking for an address for him and his wife, Rachel. Do you >have access, by any chance, to the 1841 census? They would have been >newlyweds >at that time. > >His parents' address would also interest me, as well as their dates of >birth >and death. They are Hannah and James Kay (I know, totally common names...) >Church registers? Haven't found much available online. > >I wonder if there is a way to know where he was employed as a cotton >spinner >in Oldham. I think his father had the same occupation. > >I also wonder (and I am looking for information online) about how many >people emigrated from Oldham in the 1840s to Philadelphia, and why, etc. > >Is KAY still a common name in Oldham? > >Any good sources you can direct me to, or museums in the area you can point >me to should I manage to get over there (I live in Germany) would be much >appreciated. But esp., a look-up in the 1841 census for John and his >parents >would be fantastic! > >Many thanks for your friendliness, >Helen > >Helen Kay Gelinas >Stoeffelbergweg 7 >72124 Pliezhausen >Germany > > >==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~emmaw/ for free Web Editor software. >Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters

Hi Helen. Manchester & Lancashire Fam. Hist. Soc. have an Oldham branch - have you tried them? The Society 'library' have copies of most censuses, and the IGI. I suggest you contact them for more info and help. Regards, Rita. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ghgel@aol.com> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Re: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-D Digest V05 #118 > Thanks, Alan-Actually, I have only discovered my family came from Oldham > this week, and I know very little about what is available there. I found > my 3x > Great-Grandfather, John Kay, was born there 14 May, 1820, christened at > Greenacres Ind. Methodist Church on Sept. 10, 1820, and his first two sons > were > christened there, too, in the 1840s. > > I guess I am looking for an address for him and his wife, Rachel. Do you > have access, by any chance, to the 1841 census? They would have been > newlyweds > at that time. > > His parents' address would also interest me, as well as their dates of > birth > and death. They are Hannah and James Kay (I know, totally common names...) > Church registers? Haven't found much available online. > > I wonder if there is a way to know where he was employed as a cotton > spinner > in Oldham. I think his father had the same occupation. > > I also wonder (and I am looking for information online) about how many > people emigrated from Oldham in the 1840s to Philadelphia, and why, etc. > > Is KAY still a common name in Oldham? > > Any good sources you can direct me to, or museums in the area you can > point > me to should I manage to get over there (I live in Germany) would be much > appreciated. But esp., a look-up in the 1841 census for John and his > parents > would be fantastic! > > Many thanks for your friendliness, > Helen > > Helen Kay Gelinas > Stoeffelbergweg 7 > 72124 Pliezhausen > Germany > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~emmaw/ for free Web Editor software. > Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 267.9.2 - Release Date: 19/07/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 267.9.2 - Release Date: 19/07/2005

Helen, Oldham LS have an index for the 41 Oldham census. If there are not too many Kays listed - they could send you the film/folio numbers, then someone could perhaps look at the CDs for you. Try sending them an email and see what they think. Doreen. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.0/47 - Release Date: 16/07/2005