Hi Doreen Sorry to be a pain but are the baptisms for Prestwich St Marys finished anywhere? Still seeking the Heywoods and the Radcliffes (spelt in any variation), both of whom had some contact with the church because they lived in the Rhodes area at one time or another. Additionally, I just learned that one of my Radcliffes married at St Mary's Prestwich around September 1877. His name was Robert Ratcliff (sic) and I think he may have married Emma Maddocks. Are you able to confirm that information at all? Best regards Jo Mathews (nee Radcliffe) ----- Original Message ----- From: "doreen EL-AHWANY" <doreen@elahwany.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Joseph Hulse > Hi Dom, > > Haven`t any details yet of a burial for Martha Hulse at St Leonards > Middleton, though I haven`t yet completed the years required. > I have transcribed August 1802 - June 1814. Will see if I have time to > take a look to the end of 1815 when I do my advice desk this afternoon. > > There is a burial for a Joseph at St Leonards. > 1 March 1840. Joseph Hulse. Age 76 yrs. Miller of Middleton. > (No grave number given). > > No marriages for Joseph at St Leonards (completed). None at Prestwich St > Mary prior to 1800. > No baptisms to date though I haven`t done all years yet. > > Doreen. > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/117 - Release Date: 03/10/2005 > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > Make your own home page with IMS > Web Dwarf. Free HTML Editor http://www.webdwarf.com > > >

Hello Janet, would I be imposing if I asked you to look for any of my VERITY`s buried at St. Mary`s.? The VERITY`s arrived in the Oldham area, Middleton mainly, around 1800 and were there well into the 1900`s Norman A. in OZ. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet C" <janetcee52@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:20 PM Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Joseph Hulse > Hi Dom > > I have the MLFHS transcriptions of Oldham St Mary Burials 1558-1932 (on > CDrom) and I've just looked at it - there are no HULSE buried there. > > Good luck with your search > Janet C > > _________________________________________________________________ > Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! > http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > Please ensure the "subject" reflects the contents of your message > http://www.vmims.com/middleton.htm > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Hi Dom, Have managed to check St Leonards burials to 1815, but no Martha Hulse there. Doreen. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/117 - Release Date: 03/10/2005

Hi Joan, The baptism and marriage registers are still locked up at the church. No burials took place though at Parkfield. They would have been buried at other churches around the area (Rhodes All Saints; St Leonards; Old Cemetery; or Boarshaw - depending on the year. Have quite a few of these now on the database. Doreen. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/117 - Release Date: 03/10/2005

Hi Doreen I was hoping they had a new minister who would be a bit more helpful. I am looking for the death and burial of: ((guess) John Smith, wife Sarah, son Peter Henry. Probably others in the same grave, John was alive in 81 Sarah was alive in 91. Peter died quite young but I havent found anything of him excep birth in 1875. Many Thanks Joan > Hi Joan, > > The baptism and marriage registers are still locked up at the church. > No burials took place though at Parkfield. They would have been buried at > other churches around the area (Rhodes All Saints; St Leonards; Old > Cemetery; or Boarshaw - depending on the year. > Have quite a few of these now on the database. > > Doreen. > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/117 - Release Date: 03/10/2005 > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~emmaw/ for free Web Editor software. > Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

I am searching for ancestors of David Taylor 1892 in Middleton I need BMD of his brothers and sisters Also his parents and grandparents Hope you can help Eunice Greaves maiden name Taylor

Verity's were in Middleton when I was young, so well into the 1900's. They had Verity's Printers shop at the bottom of Wood St. The shop is still there but alas, not Verity's anymore. Margaret. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Archibald" <normanarch@yahoo.com.au> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] VERITY > Thanks Janet, much appreciated. > I have found a number of my VERITY`s buried in St. Leonards cemetery, > Middleton, and I thought there may have been a chance that some were > buried > in St. Mary`s, but alas, no. > Norm. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janet C" <janetcee52@hotmail.com> > To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:54 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] VERITY > > >> Hi Norman >> >> Surprisingly, there are no VERITYs there either. >> Sorry! >> >> Janet C >> >> >> >From: "Norman Archibald" <normanarch@yahoo.com.au> >> >Reply-To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com >> >To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com >> >Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Joseph Hulse >> >Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:47:40 +1000 >> > >> >Hello Janet, would I be imposing if I asked you to look for any of my >> >VERITY`s buried at St. Mary`s.? >> >The VERITY`s arrived in the Oldham area, Middleton mainly, around 1800 > and >> >were there well into the 1900`s >> >Norman A. in OZ. >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Janet C" <janetcee52@hotmail.com> >> >To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> >> >Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:20 PM >> >Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Joseph Hulse >> > >> > >> > > Hi Dom >> > > >> > > I have the MLFHS transcriptions of Oldham St Mary Burials 1558-1932 > (on >> > > CDrom) and I've just looked at it - there are no HULSE buried there. >> > > >> > > Good luck with your search >> > > Janet C >> > > >> > > _________________________________________________________________ >> > > Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free >> >newsletters! >> > > http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters >> > > >> > > >> > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== >> > > Please ensure the "subject" reflects the contents of your message >> > > http://www.vmims.com/middleton.htm >> > > >> > > >> > >> >Send instant messages to your online friends > http://au.messenger.yahoo.com >> > >> > >> >==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== >> >To unsubscribe, >> >you should send the command "unsubscribe" to >> >ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L-request@rootsweb.com >> >(if in mail mode) or ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in > digest >> >mode.) >> >To switch from one mode to the other, you should unsubscribe from one >> >and then subscribe to the other. If you >> >want messages to stop, you should simply unsubscribe. >> > >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> MSN Messenger 7.5 is now out. Download it for FREE here. >> http://messenger.msn.co.uk >> >> >> ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== >> Make your own home page with IMS >> Web Dwarf. Free HTML Editor http://www.webdwarf.com >> >> > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== >>==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > To search the archives of this list go to: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L-request@rootsweb.com > >

Hi Dom, Haven`t any details yet of a burial for Martha Hulse at St Leonards Middleton, though I haven`t yet completed the years required. I have transcribed August 1802 - June 1814. Will see if I have time to take a look to the end of 1815 when I do my advice desk this afternoon. There is a burial for a Joseph at St Leonards. 1 March 1840. Joseph Hulse. Age 76 yrs. Miller of Middleton. (No grave number given). No marriages for Joseph at St Leonards (completed). None at Prestwich St Mary prior to 1800. No baptisms to date though I haven`t done all years yet. Doreen. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/117 - Release Date: 03/10/2005

Hi all any update on Holy Trinity Parkfield records? I am looking for deathg and burial records Joan

Hi Norman Surprisingly, there are no VERITYs there either. Sorry! Janet C >From: "Norman Archibald" <normanarch@yahoo.com.au> >Reply-To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Joseph Hulse >Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:47:40 +1000 > >Hello Janet, would I be imposing if I asked you to look for any of my >VERITY`s buried at St. Mary`s.? >The VERITY`s arrived in the Oldham area, Middleton mainly, around 1800 and >were there well into the 1900`s >Norman A. in OZ. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Janet C" <janetcee52@hotmail.com> >To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:20 PM >Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Joseph Hulse > > > > Hi Dom > > > > I have the MLFHS transcriptions of Oldham St Mary Burials 1558-1932 (on > > CDrom) and I've just looked at it - there are no HULSE buried there. > > > > Good luck with your search > > Janet C > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free >newsletters! > > http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > > Please ensure the "subject" reflects the contents of your message > > http://www.vmims.com/middleton.htm > > > > > >Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > > >==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe, >you should send the command "unsubscribe" to >ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L-request@rootsweb.com >(if in mail mode) or ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest >mode.) >To switch from one mode to the other, you should unsubscribe from one >and then subscribe to the other. If you >want messages to stop, you should simply unsubscribe. > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger 7.5 is now out. Download it for FREE here. http://messenger.msn.co.uk

Hi Dom I have the MLFHS transcriptions of Oldham St Mary Burials 1558-1932 (on CDrom) and I've just looked at it - there are no HULSE buried there. Good luck with your search Janet C _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters

Middleton, Hi, An ancestor, Joseph Hulse, born about 1764, lived in Boardman Lane, Little Heaton (Rhodes) with his wife Alice (who he probably married in 1815) and their children, the first, Isaac, being born in 1816. The IGI has details of a Joseph Hulse, born about 1764, living in Great Heaton with his wife Martha and a brood of children born between 1790 and 1813, one of whom, Isaac, died in 1792. Are they the same Joseph Hulse with Alice being his second wife? Doreen, perhaps you can help here. Do any of your burial records for the area have a Martha Hulse dying between 1813 and 1815. Any information that could either confirm or discount a connection would be useful. Thanks, Dom O'Malley.

Hi Janet, I've kept your information as well. One never knows...based on connecting with people over the internet in the last year, I have found five living distant cousins from 5 lines of the family that I never knew existed because they are from branches of the family that stem from 1790-s! Two are in UK and three are in the US... Happy hunting. Sarah H.

Hi Sarah I don't think there's likely to be a connection, but wil keep your details for future refence. Macclesfield is in Cheshire, quite some distance from Middleton (and I've no evidence for mine ever having been in Cheshire). Still, it's always worth trying, isn't it! Best wishes, Janet C >From: Nauset01@aol.com >Hi, >This may be a wild goose chase, but my maternal grandmother's name was Mary >Sommerville Burgess. Her father's name was James and her mother's name was >Elizabeth Wilkie. They came from Macclesfield, England. Any connection? > >Sarah Hamilton >US/Massachusetts _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters

Thanks Vernon All suggestions gratefully received and investigated! Janet C >I think that there was a small hamlet at the back of Chadderton Park and St >Mathews church Chadderton. The road into it ran from near St. Matt's which >was at the Mills Hill end of Burnley Lane and at the junction of Haigh Lane >and the road that runs to Royton. I remember from 50 years ago a few >houses, a shop ? and a pub. It was situated on the north bank of the river. >I've just checked the map. The ref is SD 897, 070 >Vernon Parry > _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters

Hello Janet I think that there was a small hamlet at the back of Chadderton Park and St Mathews church Chadderton. The road into it ran from near St. Matt's which was at the Mills Hill end of Burnley Lane and at the junction of Haigh Lane and the road that runs to Royton. I remember from 50 years ago a few houses, a shop ? and a pub. It was situated on the north bank of the river. I've just checked the map. The ref is SD 897, 070 Hope this helps Vernon Parry Janet C <janetcee52@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi Trish Thanks for your response, but Healds Green and Heald Green are two entirely different places. By coincidence, I live about 2 miles from Heald Green near Manchester Airport! (There's still a dairy there, or at least a milk-distribution depot, but it's no longer called Healds). Healds Green is on the mid-1850s map on http://www.old-maps.co.uk site, it's just to the north of Chadderton. Thanks for the interest anyway, Janet >From: "Trisha Roberts" >I may be well off the mark here, but I'll send my thoughts anyway. There >may be a place near Middleton that I don't know called Healds Green. >However, the only place that I know that has a similar name is Heald Green >(without the s) in Cheshire (quite close to Manchester Airport). > >I lived a few miles away from there from being a small baby in the 1950s >until my early 20s. I do remember that there was a large dairy called >'Healds' in the area. I don't know if this has any relevance. > >Regards >Trish > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger 7.5 is now out. Download it for FREE here. http://messenger.msn.co.uk ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== If you are having trouble unsubscribing please contact the list owner Joan White emmap@virtualmechanics.com

Hi Janet, I may be well off the mark here, but I'll send my thoughts anyway. There may be a place near Middleton that I don't know called Healds Green. However, the only place that I know that has a similar name is Heald Green (without the s) in Cheshire (quite close to Manchester Airport). I lived a few miles away from there from being a small baby in the 1950s until my early 20s. I do remember that there was a large dairy called 'Healds' in the area. I don't know if this has any relevance. Regards Trish ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet C <janetcee52@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 4:19 PM Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Healds Green, Chadderton postcard > I've just added another photo postcard from my collection to my blog site > http://sharejansphotos.blogspot.com/ > and if any of you know anything that might help identify either the people > or the place, I would be delighted to hear from you. > There is a torn-off label on the bottom of the card, which says 'Healds' and > I'm presuming this is Healds Green. The adddressee, Miss E A BENTLEY, was > my husband's grandmother, who was born in Tonge, Middleton, in January 1890. > > Regards > Janet Curran > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN Search Toolbar now includes Desktop search! > http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/ > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > If you are having trouble unsubscribing please contact the list owner Joan White emmap@virtualmechanics.com >

Hi Trish Thanks for your response, but Healds Green and Heald Green are two entirely different places. By coincidence, I live about 2 miles from Heald Green near Manchester Airport! (There's still a dairy there, or at least a milk-distribution depot, but it's no longer called Healds). Healds Green is on the mid-1850s map on http://www.old-maps.co.uk site, it's just to the north of Chadderton. Thanks for the interest anyway, Janet >From: "Trisha Roberts" <trisharoberts@tesco.net> >I may be well off the mark here, but I'll send my thoughts anyway. There >may be a place near Middleton that I don't know called Healds Green. >However, the only place that I know that has a similar name is Heald Green >(without the s) in Cheshire (quite close to Manchester Airport). > >I lived a few miles away from there from being a small baby in the 1950s >until my early 20s. I do remember that there was a large dairy called >'Healds' in the area. I don't know if this has any relevance. > >Regards >Trish > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger 7.5 is now out. Download it for FREE here. http://messenger.msn.co.uk

Hi, This may be a wild goose chase, but my maternal grandmother's name was Mary Sommerville Burgess. Her father's name was James and her mother's name was Elizabeth Wilkie. They came from Macclesfield, England. Any connection? Sarah Hamilton US/Massachusetts

Another photo/postcard in our family collection is a studio portrait of a young woman. The message on the back says:- Mr Dear Cousins, Can you recognise me after five years, how are you all getting along. I suppose you miss your mother a great deal. The coachman here was with Mrs Wild's Husband in America when he died. Love to you all, Mary Burgess. The 'cousins' referred to are probably my husband's BENTLEY ancestors, who lived in the Middleton area. The card has probably come from North America as it has the AZO trademark & 'place one cent stamp here' in the top corner. If anyone thinks they may be able to identify Mary, or would like to see the photo, I would be happy to hear from you. Janet Curran _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger 7.5 is now out. Download it for FREE here. http://messenger.msn.co.uk