Vera, I am by no means an expert but could it possibly be The COLLEGIATE CHURCH . The link below gives some detail and may be of interest. http://www.genuki.org.uk:8080/big/eng/LAN/Manchester/church_history.html Kind regards Ian Saunders ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vera & Peter" <rocky@alphalink.com.au> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 2:05 AM Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Query on a Marriage Certificate > Hi Everyone > I hope someone can help or point me in the right direction. > I have a Marriage certificate of my GGGrandfather dated 1839 where I cannot make out the full name of the church. It is a parish church in the Parish of Manchester in the county of Lancaster, it looks like -----colls-- Parish Church. Is there a website that lists names of churches for Lancaster?? > Any help would be appreciated. > > Vera > Mailto:rocky@alphalink.com.au > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, > you should send the command "unsubscribe" to ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L-request@rootsweb.com > (if in mail mode) or ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > To switch from one mode to the other, you should unsubscribe from one > and then subscribe to the other. If you > want messages to stop, you should simply unsubscribe. > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/168 - Release Date: 14/11/05 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/168 - Release Date: 14/11/05

Hello Doreen, You have just made me a veeeeeeeeeery happy person. Thank you, thank you. For 10 years I haven't found anything about George & Martha other than the wedding cert and info after they arrived in Australia. I couldn't even identify where middleton was. You've now given my the names of my gt gt gt gt grandparents. What a thrill. Got to go to Rotary tonight, but will be on the net following up after work tomorrow. Thank you again, Jenny -----Original Message----- From: doreen EL-AHWANY [mailto:doreen@elahwany.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2005 12:19 AM To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Bradbury and Shoesmith Hi Jenny, You have got the right Middleton. George and Martha were married on the 15th Oct 1843 at St Leonards Middleton. Below are one or two mentions from my indexes - not yet complete - still ongoing. You will probably need to find both families on the 1841 census. Marriages. St Leonards Middleton. 29 Sep 1816. James Bradbury and Betty Cousen. 1 July 1794. Jude Shoesmith and Matty Kenyon. Baptisms St Leonards Middleton. 25 Oct 1807. Arch. s/o Jude and Martha Shoesmith. Farmer of Thornham. 11 March 1810. John s/o Jude and Martha Shoesmith. Farmer of Thornham. There isn`t a previous marriage for George Bradbury at St Leonards. Could be Prestwich St Marys or Oldham St Marys if he was in the area. I couldn`t find a wife of George buried in Middleton before 1843, but for that period have only indexed 1837-47 (1814-37 still to do). Hope this helps a little. Doreen. ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, you should send the command "unsubscribe" to ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) To switch from one mode to the other, you should unsubscribe from one and then subscribe to the other. If you want messages to stop, you should simply unsubscribe.

Hi Doreen Thanks a lot. Perhaps I'll give them a ring and find out their views. I'll let you know if I get any information worth having! Regards Joanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "doreen EL-AHWANY" <doreen@elahwany.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Church Records > Hi Joanne, > > St Peters records are still at the church. > A new priest started there a couple of months ago, so I don`t yet know his > views on accessing the records. There used to be a secretary that one > could phone mornings during the wk. > This was the only RC church in Middleton at the time required. > > Doreen. > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > Make your own home page with IMS > Web Dwarf. Free HTML Editor http://www.webdwarf.com > > >

Hi all, PLEEEEEEESE can someone help. My gt gt gt grandparents were George Bradbury and Martha Shoesmith. I have their wedding cert which states they were Married in the Parish Church in the parish of Middleton in the county of Lancaster in the Registration District of Ashton and Oldham on Oct 15 (I think as the writing is bad) 1843. Have I got the right Middleton? I have been stuck on this for 10 years. George & Martha came to Australia in 1848. I can't find anything about either of them in England other than what is on the wedding cert which is: George was a spinner, a widower, from Middleton whose father was James, a farmer and Martha was a spinster, no occupation, from Middleton and her father was Jude also a farmer. They were married by banns and the witnesses were James Chadwick and what looks like Mattew Kershaw. The priest? was R. Mc kinson or something like it (again hard to read) .. George, Martha and the witnesses signed their names with a cross with someone else writing in their names so they could be spelt differently. Can someone please give me any info no matter how minor.. Thanking you in anticipation ..... Jenny Fairchild Australia

Hi Joanne, St Peters records are still at the church. A new priest started there a couple of months ago, so I don`t yet know his views on accessing the records. There used to be a secretary that one could phone mornings during the wk. This was the only RC church in Middleton at the time required. Doreen.

Hi Doreen I was at Middleton Library last week and forgot to look if there were any BMD records from the Roman catholic churches in Middleton. Do you know whether there are any available for St Peters (I would guess) as one of my Radcliffes was married there, and I presume their children baptised there, in the late 1800's or early 1900's. Regards Joanne Mathews ----- Original Message ----- From: "doreen EL-AHWANY" <doreen@elahwany.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Church Records > Hi Joan, > > Below is what has been indexed to date for St Leonards Middleton: > > Marriages 1541 - 1900. (1900-10 indexed by Midd local history group). > > Burials 1541-1791; 1797-1814; 1837-1847; 1870-1903. > > Baptisms 1541-1752; plus odd yrs after that. > 1807-12 on database where legible (waiting for a Manchester archive visit > to complete). > 1752 -80 baps available at Middleton library (indexed by Midd local > history group). > > Have been concentrating on the burials which are nearly now complete. > > There is a bap of a Daniel 14 Oct 1743 s/o John and Mary Moors of Tonge. > Other baps are later - 1840s and 50s for a Daniel and Elizabeth Moors > (poss St Michaels Tonge). > > Doreen. > http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/localresearch2 > http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/localresearch3 > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > If you are having trouble unsubscribing please contact the list owner Joan > White emmap@virtualmechanics.com > > >

Hi Joan, Below is what has been indexed to date for St Leonards Middleton: Marriages 1541 - 1900. (1900-10 indexed by Midd local history group). Burials 1541-1791; 1797-1814; 1837-1847; 1870-1903. Baptisms 1541-1752; plus odd yrs after that. 1807-12 on database where legible (waiting for a Manchester archive visit to complete). 1752 -80 baps available at Middleton library (indexed by Midd local history group). Have been concentrating on the burials which are nearly now complete. There is a bap of a Daniel 14 Oct 1743 s/o John and Mary Moors of Tonge. Other baps are later - 1840s and 50s for a Daniel and Elizabeth Moors (poss St Michaels Tonge). Doreen. http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/localresearch2 http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/localresearch3

Hi Jenny, You have got the right Middleton. George and Martha were married on the 15th Oct 1843 at St Leonards Middleton. Below are one or two mentions from my indexes - not yet complete - still ongoing. You will probably need to find both families on the 1841 census. Marriages. St Leonards Middleton. 29 Sep 1816. James Bradbury and Betty Cousen. 1 July 1794. Jude Shoesmith and Matty Kenyon. Baptisms St Leonards Middleton. 25 Oct 1807. Arch. s/o Jude and Martha Shoesmith. Farmer of Thornham. 11 March 1810. John s/o Jude and Martha Shoesmith. Farmer of Thornham. There isn`t a previous marriage for George Bradbury at St Leonards. Could be Prestwich St Marys or Oldham St Marys if he was in the area. I couldn`t find a wife of George buried in Middleton before 1843, but for that period have only indexed 1837-47 (1814-37 still to do). Hope this helps a little. Doreen.

Thanks Doreen This is a new line I am concentating on. Cheerio Joan > Hi Joan, > > Below is what has been indexed to date for St Leonards Middleton: > > Marriages 1541 - 1900. (1900-10 indexed by Midd local history group). > > Burials 1541-1791; 1797-1814; 1837-1847; 1870-1903. > > Baptisms 1541-1752; plus odd yrs after that. > 1807-12 on database where legible (waiting for a Manchester archive visit > to complete). > 1752 -80 baps available at Middleton library (indexed by Midd local > history group). > > Have been concentrating on the burials which are nearly now complete. > > There is a bap of a Daniel 14 Oct 1743 s/o John and Mary Moors of Tonge. > Other baps are later - 1840s and 50s for a Daniel and Elizabeth Moors > (poss St Michaels Tonge). > > Doreen. > http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/localresearch2 > http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/localresearch3 > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > If you are having trouble unsubscribing please contact the list owner Joan > White emmap@virtualmechanics.com >

Hi Doreen Do you have any Church records for the 1700s? I am looking for any information on a Daniel and Peter Moors, (Father and son) Have a Good Day Joan SiteSpinnerV2 HTML ,SVG wysiwyg Editor http://www.virtualmechanics.com

Thank you Laura! I'm sure some of these are mine....will send them to others in the family who are more familiar with the "younger" generation than me! I appreciate your notes very much. Best regards, Sarah Hamilton US/Massachusetts

Hi there I would appreciate it if SKS with access to the baptism records of St Chad's Rochdale could check to see if Abraham DAWSON was baptised there. I have an approximate birth year of 1801/02. TIA Kathleen Wilson ************************************************************* This email has been scanned by the Manxnet Mail Plus anti-virus system. http://www.manx.net/mailplus *************************************************************

Subject : Josph Henry PRICE From : ed_thomas@wxc.net.nz Date : Sun. 6 Nov 2005 Can anyone please help me find a date / place of death for Joseph Henry PRICE born 27 Feb 1860 at Beattie Farm Middleton. He is shown in the 1901 census living in a Lodging House 9 Front Mill Gate Rawtenstall Lancashire though I cannot find out when and where he died. Any help or pointers greatly appreciated. Ted

Hi All, I've been to Manchester Library today and picked up a few HAMILTON entries as I was searching Prestwich St Mary and Stand All Saints, I know we have a few Hamilton researchers so I thought I'd post them: Burials Prestwich St Mary 2nd feb 1845 Hugh s. Thomas Hamilton of Unsworth. Infant 26 oct 1845 Mary wife of Lot Hamilton of Heaton 29 years 26 oct 1845 Betty d. Lot Hamilton of Heaton 7 months 26 jun 1846 John S. Thomas Hamilton of Unsworth 11 years Stand All Saints Baptism 23rd May 1871 George (very unusual middle name looks like Issacker) son of Wright and Ann Hamilton of Parr Fold, Finisher. Hope they help somebody, Regards, Laura V.

From : ed_thomas@wxc.net.nz Subject : Cheshire / Lancashire PRICE , Families Date : 21st. October, 2005 I would be very grateful if S.K.S. could please help me to establish the year of death of Joseph Henry PRICE, who was born in February, 1860, Beattie Farm, Middleton, Son of Thomas and Mary PRICE, formerly NIELD. In the 1891 census Joseph, was in the 'COLDSTREAM GUARDS' in Barracks, London, aged 28. (Single). In the 1901 census he appears as a Mason's Labourer, living in a Lodging House, at 9, Front Mill Gate, Rawtenstall, Lancashire. Have drawn several blanks of any possible marriage. His father Thomas, was born 1818 in Wervin, Cheshire, died [Reg. 2 qtr. Haslingden, RD]. aged 66. Mary, died 1892. [Reg. 1 qtr. Haslington, RD] aged 70. PRICE, family Surname connections so far, are ;- HEAP, DILWORTH, WRIGHT, CARTER, HILL, HACKNEY, NIXON, BERRY, MUSK, BROOKS, CROSSLEY, MURRAY, CLOUGH, TOMLINSON, ROGERS, HUTCHINSON, BUTTERTON, GRIFFITHS, PHILBROOK, DUTTON, TAYLOR, WHYTE, My PRICE, family Tree also, shows family members settled in Tranmere, Birkenhead, Stoke, Little Stanney, Chester, and Bury, Gorton, Rochdale, Manchester, Lancashire. Any help would be most graciously received. Kind regards to all. Ted.

From : ed_thomas@wxc.net.nz Subject : Middleton PRICE Families Date : 21st. October, 2005 I would be very grateful if someone could please help me to establish the year of death of Joseph Henry PRICE, who was born in February, 1860, Beattie Farm, Middleton, Son of Thomas and Mary PRICE, formerly NIELD. In the 1891 census Joseph, was in the Coldstream Guards, in Barracks, London, aged 28. (Single). In the 1901 census he appears as a Mason's Labourer, living in a Lodging House, at 9, Front Mill Gate, Rawtenstall, Lancashire. Have drawn several blanks of a possible marriage. His father Thomas, was born 1818 in Wervin, Cheshire, died [Reg. 2 qtr. Haslingden, RD]. aged 66. Mary, died 1892. [Reg. 1 qtr. Haslington, RD] aged 70. Other family surname connections ;- MUSK, BROOKS, CROSSLEY, CLOUGH, TOMLINSON, ROGERS, BUTTERTON, WRIGHT, GRIFFITHS, BERRY, PHILBROOK, DUTTON, TAYLOR, WHYTE, Many of the PRICE, families also, lived in Chester, Tranmere and Birkenhead. Kind regards to all. Ted.

Looking for Samuel Burgess Oldham He had a daughter Elizabeth Burgess born abt 1850 Married George Faulkner 23 July 1871 Do not know name of her Mother Looking for Isaac Atherton Born 1875 married to Elizabeth Ann Faulkner Had a daughter Lena Atherton born Feb 8h 1897 Looking for William lee Robert Lee and Norman Lee sons of George Faulkner and Elizabeth Burgess.William was married to Annie Faulkner born 31 Aug 1872 Daughter of George Faulkner

Hi Doreen, when you have a chance would you see if there is an obituary for George Smith Died 17 Jul 1886. I am looking for names of mourners if there are any or names on Grave (if there are any) Many Thanks, no rush Joan

Thank you so much for the information. on Cuthbert Heaps and Evelyn Taylor. I thought they were married in Middleton.My husband and I were married in Rhodes All Saints Parish Church in August 1954. We moved to the United States in 1962 We have not been able to get much information from our relatives. I think it was because we joined the LDS Church in 1960 ----- Original Message ----- I wonder if thre is anyone who can help me find the maiden name of Marian Married in 1932 to William Taylor my Dad,s bother From: "doreen EL-AHWANY" <doreen@elahwany.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] tracing reatives from Middleton > Heres the marriage of one of them for you. > > Rhodes All Saints. 11 Oct 1930. > Cuthbert Heaps and Evelyn Taylor. > Try the local newspaper index to see if any of the names occur. > http://libraries.rochdale.gov.uk/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=dial--4#focus > > Doreen. > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > Make your own home page with IMS > Web Dwarf. Free HTML Editor http://www.webdwarf.com > >

Heres the marriage of one of them for you. Rhodes All Saints. 11 Oct 1930. Cuthbert Heaps and Evelyn Taylor. Try the local newspaper index to see if any of the names occur. http://libraries.rochdale.gov.uk/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=dial--4#focus Doreen.