Hi Janet, Haven`t got him yet. Have 1788-1806 missing at the mo. Doreen. ----- Original Message ----- > Would you have a William KENT born circa 1805 Middleton.

Hi Norm, No further Veritys as yet. Doreen.

Doreen Would you have a William KENT born circa 1805 Middleton. Many thanks janet Foreman ----- Original Message ----- From: "doreen EL-AHWANY" <doreen@elahwany.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] KENTS > Hello Ann, > The filmed register for St Leonards is not very good 1807-12. Am presently > going through the original book, which is very fragile, trying to fill in > on the many blanks. > > There are 2 Williams without surnames as yet - one 27 March 1808 (doesn`t > look like Kent) and the other 6 Aug 1812. > Also: > 10 June 1810. William s/o James and Jane Kent. Weaver of Middleton. > > Doreen. > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > If you have a home page with content interesting to subscribers of the > Middleton List send an email to emmap@virtualmechhanics.com > >

William Kent and Margaret Hilton married in 1825 at Prestwich St Mary, therefore it would be safe to assume he was born around or before 1805. I will see if we have a baptism for him or any Kent's. My William is on the 1851 census in Middleton as a Clogger so he couldn't be in two places at the same time. Pity about this as I had this film out last week at the LDS. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Lee" <judithannlee@optusnet.com.au> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 4:39 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] KENTS > Dear Janet, > The first 'sighting' i have of the Kents is William who was recorded in > the > 1851 census as born in 1808 in Middleton. I assume he left there as a > young > man as his wife was from Staines near London. I can only assume that he > had > siblings born around the 1800- 1815 period and that his parents who would > most likely have been born between 1770-1785 were from Middleton. > Thanks for responding > Ann > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janet Foreman" <janet.seaviewiow@virgin.net> > To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:35 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] KENTS > > >> Ann >> I have a William KENT and an Ann KENT in my MOULT data base. >> Can you be a little more specific with years of birth or baptism please >> >> Janet Foreman MLFHS 12038 >> MOULT HALL HILTON JOHNSON KERSHAW & TITTER >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ann Lee" <judithannlee@optusnet.com.au> >> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:58 AM >> Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] KENTS >> >> >> >i HAVE SEARCHED THE 1851 CENSUS FOR KENTS IN MIDDLETON OR BORN IN >> >MIDDLETON. THERE ARE SEVERAL FAMILIES MOST ARE IN THE SILK INDUSTRY AND > MAY >> >BE RELATED AS SOME LIVE IN THE SAME STREET. MY GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER >> >WILLIAM KENT WAS RECORDED AS BORN IN MIDDLETON AND IN 1851 WAS LIVING IN >> >LONDON. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT MIDDLETON AT THAT TIME. WAS IT > VERY >> >INDUSTRIAL OR WAS THERE STILL COTTAGE INDUSTRY? WHAT WERE THE MAIN > CHURCHES >> >THERE AT THE TIME AND ARE THERE ANY BAPTISMAL RECORDS PUT ONTO CD OR >> >MICROFILM? >> > >> > >> > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== >> > Make your own home page with IMS >> > Web Dwarf. Free HTML Editor http://www.webdwarf.com >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== >> Create your own home page with Web Dwarf, a FREE HTML Editor > http://www.vmims.com/dwarf.htm >> >> > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > Check out the Middleton site for up-dates > http://www.vmims.com/middleton.htm > >

Hello Ann, The filmed register for St Leonards is not very good 1807-12. Am presently going through the original book, which is very fragile, trying to fill in on the many blanks. There are 2 Williams without surnames as yet - one 27 March 1808 (doesn`t look like Kent) and the other 6 Aug 1812. Also: 10 June 1810. William s/o James and Jane Kent. Weaver of Middleton. Doreen.

.......... and this could be his baptism: All Saints Rhodes. Bap 29 Sep 1878. Joseph s/o Joseph and Martha Foxhall. Joiner of Walker Street, Rhodes. Born 22 Aug 1878. And maybe his siblings (still Rhodes All Saints): 24 Dec 1876. Thomas s/o Joseph and Martha Foxhall. Joiner of Chapel Street, Rhodes. Born 25 Sep 1876. 21 June 1882. Mabel Sarah d/o Joseph and Martha Anne Foxall. Joiner of Chapel Street, Rhodes. Born 6 Feb 1882. 14 May 1884. Florence d/o Joseph and Martha Foxall. Draper of Chapel Street, Rhodes. Born 27 March 1884. 1 April 1886. William Henry s/o Joseph and Martha Foxall. Draper of Chapel Street, Rhodes. Born 18 Feb 1886. 3 Oct 1888. Edith Mary d/o Joseph and Martha Foxall. Joiner of Chapel Street, Rhodes. Born 26 June 1888. And some burials from All Saints: 20 April 1878. Thomas s/o Joseph and Martha Foxhall of Walker Street, Rhodes. Age 19 mths. 17 Aug 1889. Edith Mary Foxall of Rhodes. Age 14 mths. 1 Sep 1926. Joseph Foxall of 44 Foxhall Street. Age 73 yrs. 6 Jan 1928. Martha Foxall of 44 Foxall Street. Age 73 yrs. Doreen.

Hi Angie This could be him in 1891:- RG12 3319 27 24 Middleton, Village of Rhodes 11 Chapel Street Joseph FOXALL, Head, M, 37, Joiner & Draper, Lancs Rhodes Martha FOXALL, Wife, M, 36, Certificated midwife, Lancs Liverpool Joseph FOXALL, Son, 12, Office Boy, Lancs Rhodes Thomas FOXALL, Son, 10, Scholar, Rhodes Mabel FOXALL, Daur, 9, Scholar, Rhodes Florence FOXALL, Daur, 7, Scholar, Rhodes William FOXALL, Son, Scholar , Rhodes Have you found the family in any of the census other than 1881? Hope this helps Janet C >From: ANGELA BRUNNER <angie.ont@rogers.com> >Reply-To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com >Tracing FOXALL roots. 1881 Middleton Census shows Thomas Foxall, 51, >beerseller from Dublin, Ireland at Odd Fellows Arms, 13 Thorpe Street. >Wife Sophia 50, daughters Sophia 20, Edna 14 and grandson Joseph 2. I have >Sophia and Edna's families but don't know the parents of grandson Joseph. >Any help would be appreciated. > Angie _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters

Hi Neil, The marriage cert will probably be available from the registrars in Manchester. This will give the parents. Go to www.manchester.co.uk then into the link for the registrars. Not sure if you can order online, but definitely by telephone. Hope this is of help. Margaret. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Kenyon" <nek@bluemarble.net> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 1:57 PM Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Samuel KENYON and Sarah Ann SMITH > Hi, > > Trying to find the marriage record for Samuel KENYON to Sarah Ann SMITH. > Married March 1857 Manchester. If anyone could check Parish records (not > sure which parish) I would appreciate it - would like to find the parents > names. Samuel would be abt 23 at this date - Sarah maybe 21. > > Any help appreciated, > Neil Kenyon > French Lick, IN > USA > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > If you have a home page with content interesting to subscribers of the > Middleton List send an email to emmap@virtualmechhanics.com >

Tracing FOXALL roots. 1881 Middleton Census shows Thomas Foxall, 51, beerseller from Dublin, Ireland at Odd Fellows Arms, 13 Thorpe Street. Wife Sophia 50, daughters Sophia 20, Edna 14 and grandson Joseph 2. I have Sophia and Edna's families but don't know the parents of grandson Joseph. Any help would be appreciated. Angie

Hello List I am looking James WHITTAKER born 1832 in Chadderton. I received an 1851 census reference to a James WHITTAKER at cow that may be related but his son's age then (23 in 1851) did not match that of my gr gr grandfather (who should have been about 19 since he appears in the 1861 census in Failsworth and listed as born in Chadderton). Any suggestions welcomed, perhaps someone has access to a parish record. D Pierce, Ontario, Canada

Hi I have a Thomas Hilton bc1808 Middleton who married Sally Haigh of Chadderton, daughter of John and Betty. They had 2 daughters Esther 1846 and Eliza 1849 and in 1851 were at Church St. Middleton where Thomas was a pawn broker. It looks like Thomas and Sally died as their daughters are living with Thomas's spinster sister Mary bc 1806 in 1861 She has a pawn brokers business at Kent St. Middleton. I don't have the marriage for Thomas and Sally or deaths but if anyone has any connection to them, or any of the family, I would love to hear. Regards Dorothy

Edmund (father in law and silk weaver at age 73) was living with a PILKINGTON family in the 1881 census. You may also want to check an IGI entry for Joseph HILTON christened in Oldham 17 March, 1782 - father Abraham. D Pierce, Ontario, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "MARSHALL HILTON" <MARSHALL_HILTON@msn.com> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:15 AM Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Marriages > I am looking for information on GG Grandparent and GGG Grandparent. > Edmund Hilton and Mary; Edmund born 1808 in Middleton. 1St child born 1835. Looking for marriage information. > Joseph Hilton and Mary; Joseph Hilton born 1784 in Oldham. 1st child born 1806. Looking for marriage information. > Also looking for 1841 Census information on each. > Thanks, Marshall Hilton PA, USA > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > Make your own home page with IMS > Web Dwarf. Free HTML Editor http://www.webdwarf.com >

I've been wrong before, but I am just about certain it is Betty, never Elizabeth and KENT, not Delooze. It is very kind of you to search for me. I appreciate it immensely. Kind regards, Mary Mccanney Finley ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Pierce" <dpierce@rivernet.net> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] PILLING-suggestions needed > There is mention of a John Pilling marriage to one Elizabeth Delooze 10 > October, 1831 in Warrington Lancs if this helps. The entry is from the > LDS > site. > D Pierce, Ontario, Canada > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "doreen EL-AHWANY" <doreen@elahwany.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:33 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] PILLING-suggestions needed > > >> Hello Mary, >> >> John and Betty didn`t marry in Middleton. Could have been at St Marys >> Prestwich. I don`t think it would have been at Bury as these should be on >> the IGI. If not at Prestwich, Oldham could be another possibility. (Bury >> isn`t too far away from Middleton). >> >> The daughter Mary would probably have been buried at St Leonards > Middleton. >> My indexes are lacking the 1850s and 60s at the moment. >> >> There is a baptism at New Jerusalem Chapel, Wood Street, Middleton that >> is >> of interest: >> 4 Nov 1838, Thomas s/o John and Betty Pilling of Middleton. Born 10 Aug >> 1838. >> Could be further details in the register. I didn`t record all details for >> this church. >> No other baptisms for the family at this church - have indexed baps, >> marriages and burials. Again, could be St Leonards (which I haven`t yet >> done). >> >> 1841 census. HO107/544/12. ED 11. 47/14. Water Street. Middleton. >> John Pilling. 39. Printer. >> Betty Pilling. ?age. >> William Pilling. 11. >> Edward Pilling. 5. >> Thomas Pilling. ?age. >> ?? Age 4 mths. >> All born in county. >> >> Perhaps someone has a clearer copy of this census. It is very faded and >> difficult to read on my CDs. >> >> Doreen. >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== >> Please ensure the "subject" reflects the contents of your message >> http://www.vmims.com/middleton.htm >> > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > If you have a home page with content interesting to subscribers of the > Middleton List send an email to emmap@virtualmechhanics.com > >

There is mention of a John Pilling marriage to one Elizabeth Delooze 10 October, 1831 in Warrington Lancs if this helps. The entry is from the LDS site. D Pierce, Ontario, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "doreen EL-AHWANY" <doreen@elahwany.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] PILLING-suggestions needed > Hello Mary, > > John and Betty didn`t marry in Middleton. Could have been at St Marys > Prestwich. I don`t think it would have been at Bury as these should be on > the IGI. If not at Prestwich, Oldham could be another possibility. (Bury > isn`t too far away from Middleton). > > The daughter Mary would probably have been buried at St Leonards Middleton. > My indexes are lacking the 1850s and 60s at the moment. > > There is a baptism at New Jerusalem Chapel, Wood Street, Middleton that is > of interest: > 4 Nov 1838, Thomas s/o John and Betty Pilling of Middleton. Born 10 Aug > 1838. > Could be further details in the register. I didn`t record all details for > this church. > No other baptisms for the family at this church - have indexed baps, > marriages and burials. Again, could be St Leonards (which I haven`t yet > done). > > 1841 census. HO107/544/12. ED 11. 47/14. Water Street. Middleton. > John Pilling. 39. Printer. > Betty Pilling. ?age. > William Pilling. 11. > Edward Pilling. 5. > Thomas Pilling. ?age. > ?? Age 4 mths. > All born in county. > > Perhaps someone has a clearer copy of this census. It is very faded and > difficult to read on my CDs. > > Doreen. > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > Please ensure the "subject" reflects the contents of your message > http://www.vmims.com/middleton.htm >

Hello Mary, John and Betty didn`t marry in Middleton. Could have been at St Marys Prestwich. I don`t think it would have been at Bury as these should be on the IGI. If not at Prestwich, Oldham could be another possibility. (Bury isn`t too far away from Middleton). The daughter Mary would probably have been buried at St Leonards Middleton. My indexes are lacking the 1850s and 60s at the moment. There is a baptism at New Jerusalem Chapel, Wood Street, Middleton that is of interest: 4 Nov 1838, Thomas s/o John and Betty Pilling of Middleton. Born 10 Aug 1838. Could be further details in the register. I didn`t record all details for this church. No other baptisms for the family at this church - have indexed baps, marriages and burials. Again, could be St Leonards (which I haven`t yet done). 1841 census. HO107/544/12. ED 11. 47/14. Water Street. Middleton. John Pilling. 39. Printer. Betty Pilling. ?age. William Pilling. 11. Edward Pilling. 5. Thomas Pilling. ?age. ?? Age 4 mths. All born in county. Perhaps someone has a clearer copy of this census. It is very faded and difficult to read on my CDs. Doreen.

How do I go about getting a copy license to see if Edmunds father was Joseph Hilton? Thanks, Marshall hilton ----- Original Message ----- From: PMatt68425@aol.com<mailto:PMatt68425@aol.com> To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Marriages There is a marriage at St Mary Church Prestwich which could fit The details are Edmund Hilton to Mary Partington both of Tong 20 October 1833 Paula Matthews ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== If you have a home page with content interesting to subscribers of the Middleton List send an email to emmap@virtualmechhanics.com<mailto:emmap@virtualmechhanics.com>

Thanks, I will check it out. Marshall Hilton ----- Original Message ----- From: PMatt68425@aol.com<mailto:PMatt68425@aol.com> To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Marriages There is a marriage at St Mary Church Prestwich which could fit The details are Edmund Hilton to Mary Partington both of Tong 20 October 1833 Paula Matthews ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== If you have a home page with content interesting to subscribers of the Middleton List send an email to emmap@virtualmechhanics.com<mailto:emmap@virtualmechhanics.com>

There is a marriage at St Mary Church Prestwich which could fit The details are Edmund Hilton to Mary Partington both of Tong 20 October 1833 Paula Matthews

I am looking for information on GG Grandparent and GGG Grandparent. Edmund Hilton and Mary; Edmund born 1808 in Middleton. 1St child born 1835. Looking for marriage information. Joseph Hilton and Mary; Joseph Hilton born 1784 in Oldham. 1st child born 1806. Looking for marriage information. Also looking for 1841 Census information on each. Thanks, Marshall Hilton PA, USA

Hi, Trying to find the marriage record for Samuel KENYON to Sarah Ann SMITH. Married March 1857 Manchester. If anyone could check Parish records (not sure which parish) I would appreciate it - would like to find the parents names. Samuel would be abt 23 at this date - Sarah maybe 21. Any help appreciated, Neil Kenyon French Lick, IN USA