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I have the family of John & Margaret Binns living at 6 The Slopes, Castleton, Rochdale in the 1851 and 1861 censuses, but cannot find the address in the A-Z. Has anybody any suggestions? Edward

________________________________________________________________________ Subject: : Joseph H. PRICE / COLDSTREAM GUARDS Date; 17th.March, 2006 Dear List, I have done much research on the Cheshire, and Lancashire PRICE families. of Wervin, Stoak and Little Stanney, in Cheshire, being the areas where many of the PRICE, family members were born and lived, starting with Edward PRICE, born c1782. Until several of the family members moved to Haslingden, Rawtenstall and Middleton, in Manchester, Lancashire. Joseph H. PRICE, was born in Middleton, in 1860.at Beattie Farm. I have no date as to when he enlisted with the Coldstream Guards. The last information I have of him appears in the 1901 census which list him in a Lodging House, at 9, Front Mill Gate, Rawtenstall, Lancashire, Single and working as a Mason's labourer. I would be very grateful if someone could please, help me with any information as to Joseph's, whereabouts and occupation after 1901. Perhaps, from the Electoral rolls. I have purchased several possible Marriage and Death certificates, and drawn blanks One of the last members of the family was Henry Joseph PRICE, who died in Birkenhead,1905. aged 76. of whom, the above Joseph, was his Nephew. Kind regards, TIA Ted. (In New Zealand)

As of now I have no connection with Ann(Hanna) Hilton. Marshall Hilton ----- Original Message ----- From: Neil Kenyon<mailto:nek@bluemarble.net> To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:54 PM Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] HILTON Marshall, I have a Ann (Hanna) HILTON married William KENYON Aug.26,1799 at St.Leonards in Middleton. Do you have a connection with Ann? Neil Kenyon French Lick, IN USA ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== Make your own home page with IMS Web Dwarf. Free HTML Editor http://www.webdwarf.com<http://www.webdwarf.com/>

Hi Maggie, To the best of my knowledge St Luke's Heywood was not registered for marriages until the start of civil registration in July 1837. Most marriages in the Chapelry took place at St Mary's Bury the mother church. Chadwick is certainly a local name. The Lancashire Family History Society have indexed the Bury PC marriages. Do you have an address from the son's baptism? It could help with the parish the family lived in and where the marriage took place. Good luck. Sylvia in Heywood ----- Original Message ----- From: "marjorie featherstone" <mfeathers63@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:05 PM Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] marriage lookup,CHADWICK, PLEASE!! > hi, > having tried everything I can think of,, a chap on the manchester list > suggested I put my request on this list, he said it isnt far fom heywood, > and a lot of people on this list will be looking at heywood pr,s,,, so I am > asking if anyone who is researching in the HEYWOOD PR,s could look for these > people for me?? this is a HUGE brick wall for me.. > my gt gt grandfather WILLIAM CHADWICK, was married to ANN surname unknown,, > WILLIAM was born 1812/13,, one clue is that he was born in barton upon > urwell (almost certainly eccles) and his father was THOMAS. i have really > searched hard for this marriage over the past few years with no luck.. > the marriage was 1833,, > now in the same year the couples first child, THOMAS, was christened at > heywood,, if anyone can help me solve this mystery ,, I would be so happy. > regards maggi > in aegina greece > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~emmaw/ for free Web Editor software. > Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > >

hi, having tried everything I can think of,, a chap on the manchester list suggested I put my request on this list, he said it isnt far fom heywood, and a lot of people on this list will be looking at heywood pr,s,,, so I am asking if anyone who is researching in the HEYWOOD PR,s could look for these people for me?? this is a HUGE brick wall for me.. my gt gt grandfather WILLIAM CHADWICK, was married to ANN surname unknown,, WILLIAM was born 1812/13,, one clue is that he was born in barton upon urwell (almost certainly eccles) and his father was THOMAS. i have really searched hard for this marriage over the past few years with no luck.. the marriage was 1833,, now in the same year the couples first child, THOMAS, was christened at heywood,, if anyone can help me solve this mystery ,, I would be so happy. regards maggi in aegina greece _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

Marshall, I have a Ann (Hanna) HILTON married William KENYON Aug.26,1799 at St.Leonards in Middleton. Do you have a connection with Ann? Neil Kenyon French Lick, IN USA

I am researching Edmumd Hilton and Joseph Hilton. Edmund born 1808 in Middleton married Mary. Joseph born 1784 in Oldham married Mary. The information I have is 1851 thru 1901 census. I would be happy to receive any information from anyone. Thanks Marshall Hilton Richboro, PA USA

From: ed_thomas@wxc.net.nz Subject: Joseph H.PRICE / COLDSTREAM GUARDS Date; 14th.March, 2006 . Dear List, I have done much research on the Cheshire, and Lancashire PRICE families.of Wervin, Stoak and Little Stanney, in Cheshire, being the areas where many of the PRICE, family members were born and lived, starting with Edward PRICE, born c1782. Until several of the family members moved to Haslingden, Rawtenstall and Middleton, in Manchester, Lancashire. Joseph H. PRICE, was born in Middleton, in 1860.at Beattie Farm. I have no date as to when he enlisted with the Coldstream Guards. The last information I have of him appears in the 1901 census which list him in a Lodging House, at 9, Front Mill Gate, Rawtenstall, Lancashire, Single and working as a Mason's labourer. I would be very grateful if someone could please, help me with any information as to Joseph's, whereabouts and occupation after 1901. I have purchased several possible Marriage and Death certificates but, draw blanks One of the last members of the family was Henry Joseph PRICE, who died in Birkenhead,1905. aged 76. of whom, the above Joseph, was a Nephew. Kind regards, TIA Ted.

Ness, Brilliant! Thank you so much. I enjoyed working through the story of the funeral director and wondering where it was all going to lead until I got to the map. Typical that they should suppress a decent name like Holebottom while leaving something as potentially disgusting as Wrigley Head in place! Thank you for Ralph green too. I wonder whether the playing fields on the other side of Manchester rd represent the last bit left of the green. The locations are important because they make it much more likely that the following sequence is one family rather than two, moving around in a small area. BAP HOL Aug 12th 1821 Benjamin s. of Richd. & Betty Ashworth, Long Lane, wea. BAP HOL Jul 20th 1823 Mary d. of Richd. & Betty Ashworth, Long Lane, wea. BRN Aug 27th BAP HOL Oct 29th 1826 Joseph Ogden s. Richd. & Betty Ashworth, Holebottom, hatter BUR Mar 9th 1828 Joseph Ogden s. Richd. & Betty Ashworth, Holebottom, 18 m. BAP HOL Mar 14th 1830 Sarah d. of Richd. & Betty Ashworth, Failsworth, hatter BAP HOL Apr 7th 1833 Ann d. of Richd. & Betty Ashworth, Hollinwood, hatter Mary is my GG-Grandmother. The remaining puzzle is that she says she's from Newton in the 61-81 Censuses and at her marriage in 1844 that her father was a weaver, whereas on other lines I tend to find the father's latest career development is the one that gets mentioned. Thanks, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vanessa & Dave Hughes" <hughes.familytree@btopenworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Locations in Hollinwood, Chadderton, Failsworth & Newton > John > > I have sent Ralph Green St . Street Map Directly to you > > Holebottom is now a continuation of Wickentree Lane I Have sent Map > separately > > also a web page if you look for Reuben Cheetham he was a Funeral Director > at Holebottom in the 1880s which then became 91 Wickentree Lane by 1965 > there is also a map showing Holebottom on this site. > > Yours Ness > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Heywood" <john.heywood2@btopenworld.com> > To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 12:36 PM > Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Locations in Hollinwood, Chadderton, > Failsworth & Newton > > >> Dear Listers, >> >> Here are some locations of ancestors found in St Margaret's Hollinwood. >> They're not Middleton locations, but I hope some one on the list can help >> identify them. >> >> Can anyone identify >> >> 'Ralph green', also 'Halfstreet [Ralph green]'? >> >> 'Holebottom' ? A Holebottom does show up on the A to Z (and just that - >> no 'street' following) over in Smallshaw in Ashton under Lyne, >> which seems a bit far away to still attend St Margaret's Hollinwood from. >> Was there one closer to the church? >> >> One location, 'Long Lane,' I think I have found on the A to Z just off >> Broadway as it crosses over the M66 into White Gate. >> It's just managed to avoid being obliterated by the M66. The girl born >> there in 1823 later in the Censuses says she is from Newton. >> I suppose it could be considered the very edge of Newton Heath, though it >> looks to me to be on the boundary between Moston and Chadderton. >> Does anyone know what the name White gate derives from? A toll bar? >> >> >> John Heywood >> >> >> ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== >> Create your own home page with Web Dwarf, a FREE HTML Editor >> http://www.vmims.com/dwarf.htm >> > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== >>==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > To search the archives of this list go to: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/279 - Release Date: 10/03/2006 > >

John I have sent Ralph Green St . Street Map Directly to you Holebottom is now a continuation of Wickentree Lane I Have sent Map separately also a web page if you look for Reuben Cheetham he was a Funeral Director at Holebottom in the 1880s which then became 91 Wickentree Lane by 1965 there is also a map showing Holebottom on this site. Yours Ness ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Heywood" <john.heywood2@btopenworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 12:36 PM Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Locations in Hollinwood, Chadderton, Failsworth & Newton > Dear Listers, > > Here are some locations of ancestors found in St Margaret's Hollinwood. > They're not Middleton locations, but I hope some one on the list can help > identify them. > > Can anyone identify > > 'Ralph green', also 'Halfstreet [Ralph green]'? > > 'Holebottom' ? A Holebottom does show up on the A to Z (and just that - > no 'street' following) over in Smallshaw in Ashton under Lyne, > which seems a bit far away to still attend St Margaret's Hollinwood from. > Was there one closer to the church? > > One location, 'Long Lane,' I think I have found on the A to Z just off > Broadway as it crosses over the M66 into White Gate. > It's just managed to avoid being obliterated by the M66. The girl born > there in 1823 later in the Censuses says she is from Newton. > I suppose it could be considered the very edge of Newton Heath, though it > looks to me to be on the boundary between Moston and Chadderton. > Does anyone know what the name White gate derives from? A toll bar? > > > John Heywood > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > Create your own home page with Web Dwarf, a FREE HTML Editor > http://www.vmims.com/dwarf.htm >

Dear Listers, Here are some locations of ancestors found in St Margaret's Hollinwood. They're not Middleton locations, but I hope some one on the list can help identify them. Can anyone identify 'Ralph green', also 'Halfstreet [Ralph green]'? 'Holebottom' ? A Holebottom does show up on the A to Z (and just that - no 'street' following) over in Smallshaw in Ashton under Lyne, which seems a bit far away to still attend St Margaret's Hollinwood from. Was there one closer to the church? One location, 'Long Lane,' I think I have found on the A to Z just off Broadway as it crosses over the M66 into White Gate. It's just managed to avoid being obliterated by the M66. The girl born there in 1823 later in the Censuses says she is from Newton. I suppose it could be considered the very edge of Newton Heath, though it looks to me to be on the boundary between Moston and Chadderton. Does anyone know what the name White gate derives from? A toll bar? John Heywood

Thanks Doreen, have a lovely weekend. Norm. ----- Original Message ----- From: "doreen EL-AHWANY" <doreen@elahwany.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] KENTS > Hi Norm, > No further Veritys as yet. > > Doreen. > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~emmaw/ for free Web Editor software. > Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Good on you Janet, thanks. Norm. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Foreman" <janet.seaviewiow@virgin.net> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] KENTS > Norman > I am checking this film next week- will my eyes open. > janet > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "doreen EL-AHWANY" <doreen@elahwany.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 10:33 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] KENTS > > > > Hi Norm, > > No further Veritys as yet. > > > > Doreen. > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~emmaw/ for free Web Editor software. > > Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > Check out the Middleton site for up-dates > http://www.vmims.com/middleton.htm >

Hello Doreen, Have you come across any of my VERITY`s on the 1807-1812 St. Leonards register by any chance. Norm. ----- Original Message ----- From: "doreen EL-AHWANY" <doreen@elahwany.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] KENTS > Hello Ann, > The filmed register for St Leonards is not very good 1807-12. Am presently > going through the original book, which is very fragile, trying to fill in on > the many blanks. > > There are 2 Williams without surnames as yet - one 27 March 1808 (doesn`t > look like Kent) and the other 6 Aug 1812. > Also: > 10 June 1810. William s/o James and Jane Kent. Weaver of Middleton. > > Doreen. > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > If you have a home page with content interesting to subscribers of the Middleton List send an email to emmap@virtualmechhanics.com >

Dear Mary, I am searching for Kent ancestors in Middleton, especially a William Kent and was interested in your message. Could there be a connection. William, my g g grandfather was born about 1808 in Middleton and moved to London by 1840s. We could be connected. I am in Australia so searching by distance too. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Finley" <marmfin@comcast.net> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] PILLING-suggestions needed > I've been wrong before, but I am just about certain it is Betty, never > Elizabeth and KENT, not Delooze. > It is very kind of you to search for me. I appreciate it immensely. > Kind regards, > Mary Mccanney Finley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Pierce" <dpierce@rivernet.net> > To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 8:55 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] PILLING-suggestions needed > > > > There is mention of a John Pilling marriage to one Elizabeth Delooze 10 > > October, 1831 in Warrington Lancs if this helps. The entry is from the > > LDS > > site. > > D Pierce, Ontario, Canada > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "doreen EL-AHWANY" <doreen@elahwany.freeserve.co.uk> > > To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:33 AM > > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] PILLING-suggestions needed > > > > > >> Hello Mary, > >> > >> John and Betty didn`t marry in Middleton. Could have been at St Marys > >> Prestwich. I don`t think it would have been at Bury as these should be on > >> the IGI. If not at Prestwich, Oldham could be another possibility. (Bury > >> isn`t too far away from Middleton). > >> > >> The daughter Mary would probably have been buried at St Leonards > > Middleton. > >> My indexes are lacking the 1850s and 60s at the moment. > >> > >> There is a baptism at New Jerusalem Chapel, Wood Street, Middleton that > >> is > >> of interest: > >> 4 Nov 1838, Thomas s/o John and Betty Pilling of Middleton. Born 10 Aug > >> 1838. > >> Could be further details in the register. I didn`t record all details for > >> this church. > >> No other baptisms for the family at this church - have indexed baps, > >> marriages and burials. Again, could be St Leonards (which I haven`t yet > >> done). > >> > >> 1841 census. HO107/544/12. ED 11. 47/14. Water Street. Middleton. > >> John Pilling. 39. Printer. > >> Betty Pilling. ?age. > >> William Pilling. 11. > >> Edward Pilling. 5. > >> Thomas Pilling. ?age. > >> ?? Age 4 mths. > >> All born in county. > >> > >> Perhaps someone has a clearer copy of this census. It is very faded and > >> difficult to read on my CDs. > >> > >> Doreen. > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > >> Please ensure the "subject" reflects the contents of your message > >> http://www.vmims.com/middleton.htm > >> > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > > If you have a home page with content interesting to subscribers of the > > Middleton List send an email to emmap@virtualmechhanics.com > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > If you are having trouble unsubscribing please contact the list owner Joan White emmap@virtualmechanics.com > >

Dear Doreen, The only date that I have that is probable is about 1808 as the birth date for William Kent.(this is not exact of course -could be a year or so either side) This is the date for his birth given in the 1851 census by which time he was in London. Any help appreciated. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "doreen EL-AHWANY" <doreen@elahwany.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:03 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] KENTS > Ann, > I am indexing the baptism registers for Middleton. What year do you need? > These are very patchy at present, but can let you know whether they are > indexed or not. > Tha main church was St Leonards. > Doreen. > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > Make your own home page with IMS > Web Dwarf. Free HTML Editor http://www.webdwarf.com > >

Dear Janet, The first 'sighting' i have of the Kents is William who was recorded in the 1851 census as born in 1808 in Middleton. I assume he left there as a young man as his wife was from Staines near London. I can only assume that he had siblings born around the 1800- 1815 period and that his parents who would most likely have been born between 1770-1785 were from Middleton. Thanks for responding Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Foreman" <janet.seaviewiow@virgin.net> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:35 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] KENTS > Ann > I have a William KENT and an Ann KENT in my MOULT data base. > Can you be a little more specific with years of birth or baptism please > > Janet Foreman MLFHS 12038 > MOULT HALL HILTON JOHNSON KERSHAW & TITTER > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ann Lee" <judithannlee@optusnet.com.au> > To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:58 AM > Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] KENTS > > > >i HAVE SEARCHED THE 1851 CENSUS FOR KENTS IN MIDDLETON OR BORN IN > >MIDDLETON. THERE ARE SEVERAL FAMILIES MOST ARE IN THE SILK INDUSTRY AND MAY > >BE RELATED AS SOME LIVE IN THE SAME STREET. MY GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER > >WILLIAM KENT WAS RECORDED AS BORN IN MIDDLETON AND IN 1851 WAS LIVING IN > >LONDON. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT MIDDLETON AT THAT TIME. WAS IT VERY > >INDUSTRIAL OR WAS THERE STILL COTTAGE INDUSTRY? WHAT WERE THE MAIN CHURCHES > >THERE AT THE TIME AND ARE THERE ANY BAPTISMAL RECORDS PUT ONTO CD OR > >MICROFILM? > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > > Make your own home page with IMS > > Web Dwarf. Free HTML Editor http://www.webdwarf.com > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > Create your own home page with Web Dwarf, a FREE HTML Editor http://www.vmims.com/dwarf.htm > >

Norman I am checking this film next week- will my eyes open. janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "doreen EL-AHWANY" <doreen@elahwany.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] KENTS > Hi Norm, > No further Veritys as yet. > > Doreen. > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~emmaw/ for free Web Editor software. > Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

I have just had a phone call from the LDS library- my film for St Leonards is in and I can check for myself- anything you need checking- will check William Kent 1810-11 for Ann at the same time. janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "doreen EL-AHWANY" <doreen@elahwany.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] KENTS > Hi Janet, > Haven`t got him yet. Have 1788-1806 missing at the mo. > > Doreen. > > ----- Original Message ----- >> Would you have a William KENT born circa 1805 Middleton. > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== >>==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > To search the archives of this list go to: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L-request@rootsweb.com > >