I have a Jane Kenyon (d 1919), married James Fitton. Children - Mary, John, Martha, Robert, Elizabeth, James Thomas, James Henry (b between 1859 and 1874). They lived in Chorlton-on-Medlock in 1881, but were in Tonge in 1858 and Middleton in 1919. Regards John Chester, UK Researching:- DYSON - Chadderton, Oldham, Middleton FITTON - Chadderton, Oldham, Middleton, Newark New Jersey GIBBONS - Chadderton, Royton, Oldham, Middleton, Manchester, Thorham, Congleton, Biddulph HARTLEY - Royton, Oldham, Middleton, Manchester SHOOSMITH - Royton, Thorham, Oldham TRIMBLE - Chadderton, Oldham, Manchester ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvia Flynn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 6:33 PM Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Surname interests > Hi, > New to the list and want to submit my surname interests. > > Walkden - Chadderton, Middleton > Kershaw - Chadderton, Oldham > Ellison - Worsley-Middleton-Chadderton-Golborne > Dean - Middleton > Spencer - Pendleton-Rawtenstall (I don't quite know where that is) > Kenyon - Chadderton, Middleton, Oldham > Armstrong - Chadderton - Oldham > Smethurst - Chadderton - Oldham > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > If you are having trouble unsubscribing please contact the list owner Joan White [email protected] >

Hi Looking for living links to my Grand Uncle Tom Gleeson in Australia Thomas was born in Royton Lancs in 1899 and married Gladys ASHTON before leaving for a new life in Australia. Known children Keith and Janet GLEESON. I believe Keiths wife Marilyn is now pursuing family history from back home... I'll be in touch via snail mail @ Janets address in Sydney ..meanwhile if you see this give me a E @ [email protected] I have information regarding the ASHTON, GLEESON ,CAIRNS back here in England / Ireland line which may be of use

I have a Great Grandma called Mary Jane CAIN born 14.9.1876 she married a William John MURPHY they both came from Ireland but I don't yet know where. They lived in Oldham. This is my first reply - hope that this is OK. Jacqui Hales, Bulli - OZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline and Brian" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 5:44 AM Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] BOWKER,BIRCH,DAVIES,PASHLEY,PRICE,RUSSELL,SLATER > > Hi, > > So many new listers, thought I would repost my interests > > CHESHIRE > CAIN - Stockport - 19c, County Mayo, Ireland c1876 > CHATTERTION - Stockport - 19c > FAULKNER - Stockport c 1801 > HAGAN- Stockport - 19C > JONES - Stockport - 19C > PEERS - Stockport - 19c > PRICE - Crewe - 1870 > ROBERTS - Stockport - 19c > RUSSELL - Stockport - 1842 onwards > SHANNON - Stockport - 1873 onwards > WARRINGTON - Hale - 19c > WILLIAMS - Chester - 19c > > LANCASHIRE > BOWKER - Gorton - 19c > BIRCH - 19c > DAVIES - Oldham - 19c > ESPLEY - Denton - 1880's > MOSLEY - Prestwich - 19c > PRICE - Chorlton & Ardwick, Manchester- 19c > RUSSELL - Bolton - 19c > SLATER - Oldham and Manchester - 19c > > YORKSHIRE > GRUNNILL - Wakefield c1853 > > SHROPSHIRE > AMOS/AMIES Dawley - 19c > BAILEY - Old Park, Dawley - 19c > BREES(Z)E - Newport 19c > DODD - Ironbridge & Madeley - 19c > PICKERING - Wrockwardine Wood - 19C > PRICE - Oswestry - c1829 > PHILLIPS - Lilleshall - 19c, Edgmond 1802 > > STAFFORDSHIRE > CLEWLEY - Lichfield -19c, Cannock 1822 > ESPLEY - Newcastle-u-Lyne -19c > FOX - Smallthorne - 19c > FAULKNER - Smallthorne - 19c > GLOVER - Wolverhampton - 1815 > GRUNNIL - Wakefield - 19c > JOHNSON - Golden Hill - 19C > PICKERING - Princes End - 1850 > > NOTTINGHAM > PASHLEY - Worksop - early 1800's > > WALES > PRICE Ambrose - Hanmer, Flint - c1826 > > Regards > > Pauline > New Zealand > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > Make your own home page with IMS > Web Dwarf. Free HTML Editor http://www.webdwarf.net >

Hi, New to the list and want to submit my surname interests. Walkden - Chadderton, Middleton Kershaw - Chadderton, Oldham Ellison - Worsley-Middleton-Chadderton-Golborne Dean - Middleton Spencer - Pendleton-Rawtenstall (I don't quite know where that is) Kenyon - Chadderton, Middleton, Oldham Armstrong - Chadderton - Oldham Smethurst - Chadderton - Oldham

> > Oh, ok here are the names from the tree, Oral history. Thomas Bannister > > married Betsy Rhodes. They had 5 children. William (WWI amputee), > > Granville (KIA WWI), Harry, Thomas, Janie, Mollie. Hi again Bill and anyone else following this family. Just found more information on the family we have hit on. ' Military extracts from Heywood Local paper (HA) 1914 to 1920 GUNNER WILLIAM BANNISTER, Royal Field Artillery. HA 20/07/1917 Awarded the Military Medal for bravery in the field out on a risky operation in which two sgts. and a corp. were killed. HA 14/12/1917 Awarded Distinguished Conduct Medal at Messines Ridge. The ammunition dump was on fire, hit by a shell. Bannister and two sgts. put the fire out and saved the guns. HA 01/11/1918 Badly wounded by shrapnel in right arm, so badly damaged that it was to be amputated, the operation was postponed owing to his weak condition. Later doing well in an English hospital 1901 CENSUS (BARRISTER should be BANNISTER) Forename(s)/ Lastname /Page ID /Person ID /Age /Year Born / Born / Census Place/Census County /Occupation. Thomas BARRISTER 40964013/ 24009897 41y 1860 Lancs Heywood Heywood Lancashire/ Grocer Betsy BARRISTER 40964013/ 24009898 41y 1860 Lancs Heywood Heywood Lancashire William BARRISTER 40964013/ 24009899 13y 1888 Lancs Heywood Heywood Lancashire/ Errand Boy Granville BARRISTER 40964013/ 24009900 11y 1890 Lancs Heywood HeywoodLancashire Jane BARRISTER 40964013/ 24009901 8y 1893 Lancs Heywood Heywood Lancashire Harry BARRISTER 40964013/ 24009902 4y 1897 Lancs Heywood Heywood Lancashire Tom BARRISTER 40964013/ 24009903 0.58y 1900 Lancs Heywood Heywood Lancashire Kind regards Sylvia.

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Hi, I recently joined the Middleton list. Since this time the amount of Spam I receive has increased, all from the UK Recently I got mail from [email protected]> threatening me with all kind of evil if I showed the mail to anyone, It came supposedly from the Middleton list And today From: "Donoghue, Rachel" <[email protected]> To: "peter fitton" <[email protected]> Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] 1841 Census Date: Friday, May 30, 2003 9:28 PM Rachel Donoghue will be out of the office on 30/05/03. Please call reception (01 44 05 60 00) if you should require urgent assistance. Somebody on your list is obviously giving , or selling , e-mail addresses of list members. Could you please ask them to dersist. Peter Fitton Peter Fitton 2400 Sarazen Court Florence South Carolina 29506 <

Thanks Bill. Kind regards Sylvia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Rhodes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 9:03 PM Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] RHODES 1798 1806 > Dear Sylvia, > > By the way we have found most of our Rhodes in the 1881 and 1901 census so > no need to look for us. > We have not found Samuel Rhodes, or Betsy in 1901, or Thomas Rhodes in 1881 > (he married Annie Holt) and they emigrated to New York before 1901 I > think.....We can look for them though..... > > RE: Your McAllisters > That is interesting. A big family, but I guess most families in that area > had "at least" 5 children. To keep the mills full I'm sure. > > RE: >>>>I will try to get the full details of the marriage 15 Feb 1851of > William > RHODES and Mary BUTTERWORTH to confirm John as his father<<<<< > Thanks. I guess my brother Phil can also dig for William Rhodes Baptismal > online (LDS?). > > RE: >>>>Where do you fit in to all this Bill?<<<<< > I will make an attempt at broadening our family tree next week. I don't > have time to spell everyone out now. William Rhodes & Mary Butterworth had > 5 children. The first was "Patience"; aptly named because William & Mary > did not wed until Patience was aged 4. The second oldest was "John Rhodes" > who is my great grandfather. Then came Samuel Rhodes (married a Esther?), > Betsy Rhodes, and Thomas Rhodes. John Rhodes had 5 children, the second > youngest being "Sydney Rhodes" who is my grandfather. Sydney Rhodes and > Stella Davidson Williams (of Cumbria) immigrated to the U.S. in 1926 when my > father, Peter, was 6. Later Syd & Stella had a daughter, my Aunt Peggy. > The soon thereafter moved to California. My father Peter had 4 children (& > 3 step children). I, William Sydney Rhodes, am the youngest. > > We gleaned much information from a recording in 1983 of our cousins, Jane & > Mollie Bannister. They were daughters of Betsy Rhodes, and were forever > spinsters, quite a legend in Bury and later Blackpool. Jane Bannister lived > to be 104 years old (she quit smoking when she was 102, too expensive). > Again, hold off on any Bannister search until I can give you 100% of the > map. > > My brother Philip has done most of the recent internet searching. > > Thanks again Sylvia for hopping through your family tree wiht us. I'll be > quite busy until next week. > > RE: >>>>I had a quick look on the 1901 census > for the Bannister family but nothing jumped out. Have you found them?<<<< > > Oh, ok here are the names from the tree, Oral history. Thomas Bannister > married Betsy Rhodes. They had 5 children. William (WWI amputee), > Granville (KIA WWI), Harry, Thomas, Janie, Mollie. > > Kind regards > Sylvia. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Rhodes" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:55 AM > Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] RHODES 1798 1806 > > > > Dear Sylvia, > > > > My brother just found the following records in familysearch.org: > > > > BIRTH/CHRISTENING > > ANN RHODES > > > > Birth 22 Dec 1806 > > Christening 13 FEB 1807 Saint Mary, Bury, Lancashire, England > > > > Father: JOHN RHODES > Mother: BETTY > > > > > > MARRIAGE > > JOHN RHODES > BETTY TAYLOR > > 05 NOV 1798 Saint Mary, Bury, Lancashire, England > > > > Kind regards, > > Bill Rhodes > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~emmaw/ for free Web Editor software. > Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > Check out the Guest book at: http://www.vmims.com/middleton.htm You may find old friends > >

Margo, Could you please be a little more specific as to where you found the 1841 census? Regards Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] 1841 Census > Helen, > > If you go to the LDS Family Search you can do lookups of the 1841 census for free over the internet. Its pretty cool. > > Margo > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, > you should send the command "unsubscribe" to [email protected] > (if in mail mode) or [email protected] (if in digest mode.) > To switch from one mode to the other, you should unsubscribe from one > and then subscribe to the other. If you > want messages to stop, you should simply unsubscribe. >

Hi Helen, The 1841 census isn`t the easiest to read - and this is the first census of any significance to FH researchers. Earlier ones, where available, don`t give names. Which area do you need looking up? Some areas have been surname indexed, but it would be a bit difficult without an index, depending on the town. Doreen. ----- Original Message ----- > Hello, Is there anyone out there who has access to the 1841 census and will > do look-ups? Or, perhaps earlier census records as well? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 24/04/03

Hi Bill, Just arrived home from work. Yes, that is the baptism of Ann RHODES and the only marriage of a John & Betty RHODES that seems to fit. Unfortunately there was no information on the church records of the time to identify the couple further and I have never found any definate record of John`s birth although there is an IGI baptism of a Betty TAYLOR that could fit. Ann married William McAllister at the same Church on 9 January 1826. William and Ann had ten children, three died in infancy. Ann died age 52 on the 28 July 1858 and is buried at St James Church Heywood a few yards from her home. There is no headstone. When I started family history ten years ago I had no idea of any RHODES connection but was aware that my great grandmother was Dinah McALLISTER, who turned out to be Ann`s youngest child. I will try to get the full details of the marriage 15 Feb 1851of William RHODES and Mary BUTTERWORTH to confirm John as his father. By 1851 there "should" be more details on the church records. Don`t suppose anyone on the list is going into Bury Library tomorrow !!!! Where do you fit in to all this Bill? I had a quick look on the 1901 census for the Bannister family but nothing jumped out. Have you found them? Kind regards Sylvia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Rhodes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:55 AM Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] RHODES 1798 1806 > Dear Sylvia, > > My brother just found the following records in familysearch.org: > > BIRTH/CHRISTENING > ANN RHODES > > Birth 22 Dec 1806 > Christening 13 FEB 1807 Saint Mary, Bury, Lancashire, England > > Father: JOHN RHODES > Mother: BETTY > > > MARRIAGE > JOHN RHODES > BETTY TAYLOR > 05 NOV 1798 Saint Mary, Bury, Lancashire, England > > Kind regards, > Bill Rhodes

Margo Enlighten me ...the 41 census ..have I missed something? Cheers Alan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 30 May 2003 16:26 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] 1841 Census Helen, If you go to the LDS Family Search you can do lookups of the 1841 census for free over the internet. Its pretty cool. Margo ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, you should send the command "unsubscribe" to [email protected] (if in mail mode) or [email protected] (if in digest mode.) To switch from one mode to the other, you should unsubscribe from one and then subscribe to the other. If you want messages to stop, you should simply unsubscribe.

Hi Margo, Thanks for the advice-but when I go to the LDS site, I can only see and/or access the 1881 census. Do you know what I'm doing wrong? I'm having a terrible time with that website-but I'm new to all of this. Many thanks, Helen

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Dear Sylvia, By the way we have found most of our Rhodes in the 1881 and 1901 census so no need to look for us. We have not found Samuel Rhodes, or Betsy in 1901, or Thomas Rhodes in 1881 (he married Annie Holt) and they emigrated to New York before 1901 I think.....We can look for them though..... RE: Your McAllisters That is interesting. A big family, but I guess most families in that area had "at least" 5 children. To keep the mills full I'm sure. RE: >>>>I will try to get the full details of the marriage 15 Feb 1851of William RHODES and Mary BUTTERWORTH to confirm John as his father<<<<< Thanks. I guess my brother Phil can also dig for William Rhodes Baptismal online (LDS?). RE: >>>>Where do you fit in to all this Bill?<<<<< I will make an attempt at broadening our family tree next week. I don't have time to spell everyone out now. William Rhodes & Mary Butterworth had 5 children. The first was "Patience"; aptly named because William & Mary did not wed until Patience was aged 4. The second oldest was "John Rhodes" who is my great grandfather. Then came Samuel Rhodes (married a Esther?), Betsy Rhodes, and Thomas Rhodes. John Rhodes had 5 children, the second youngest being "Sydney Rhodes" who is my grandfather. Sydney Rhodes and Stella Davidson Williams (of Cumbria) immigrated to the U.S. in 1926 when my father, Peter, was 6. Later Syd & Stella had a daughter, my Aunt Peggy. The soon thereafter moved to California. My father Peter had 4 children (& 3 step children). I, William Sydney Rhodes, am the youngest. We gleaned much information from a recording in 1983 of our cousins, Jane & Mollie Bannister. They were daughters of Betsy Rhodes, and were forever spinsters, quite a legend in Bury and later Blackpool. Jane Bannister lived to be 104 years old (she quit smoking when she was 102, too expensive). Again, hold off on any Bannister search until I can give you 100% of the map. My brother Philip has done most of the recent internet searching. Thanks again Sylvia for hopping through your family tree wiht us. I'll be quite busy until next week. RE: >>>>I had a quick look on the 1901 census for the Bannister family but nothing jumped out. Have you found them?<<<< Oh, ok here are the names from the tree, Oral history. Thomas Bannister married Betsy Rhodes. They had 5 children. William (WWI amputee), Granville (KIA WWI), Harry, Thomas, Janie, Mollie. Kind regards Sylvia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Rhodes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:55 AM Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] RHODES 1798 1806 > Dear Sylvia, > > My brother just found the following records in familysearch.org: > > BIRTH/CHRISTENING > ANN RHODES > > Birth 22 Dec 1806 > Christening 13 FEB 1807 Saint Mary, Bury, Lancashire, England > > Father: JOHN RHODES > Mother: BETTY > > > MARRIAGE > JOHN RHODES > BETTY TAYLOR > 05 NOV 1798 Saint Mary, Bury, Lancashire, England > > Kind regards, > Bill Rhodes ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~emmaw/ for free Web Editor software. Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Helen, If you go to the LDS Family Search you can do lookups of the 1841 census for free over the internet. Its pretty cool. Margo

Hello, Is there anyone out there who has access to the 1841 census and will do look-ups? Or, perhaps earlier census records as well? Thank you, Helen

----- Original Message ----- From: "sylvia walch" <[email protected]> To: "Bill Rhodes" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] RHODES > Hi again Bill, > Sorry it should of course have been "born 1815" not 1851. > > 1841 census, Union St, Heap.(ages rounded to five years) > William Callister (McAllister), 35, Hand weaver, not born Lancs. > Ann ditto 30 born Lancs > John ditto 14 Power weaver born Lancs > William ditto 11 Power weaver born Lancs > Alice ditto 9 born Lancs > Betty ditto 5 born Lancs > David ditto 1 born Lancs > William Rhodes 25 Power weaver born Lancs > > I seem to recall William is living at Bridge St Heywood in 1851 but I do not > have that information to hand. > > Yes, I have come across a Bannister connection. > > Heywood Cemertery Records > Grave No. / > Burial no./ Date of death /Date of burial /Christian name/Surname /Age/ > Occupation /Address at death > > G574 gen /8779 /28 09 1877 /01 10 1877 / Mary Rhodes /54 / > wife of William/ 2 Bank Top St Heap > G574 gen /13681 /08 04 1886 /13 05 1886 / William Rhodes /71 / > weaver / 27Peel Lane Heap > G574 gen /31061 /28 12 1915 /01 01 1915 / Betsy Bannister /56 > /non given / 21/Nellie St Heywood > G574 gen /33083 /16 07 1919 /18 07 1919 / Granville Bannister / > non given/ 21 Nellie St Heywood > > Do you have the marriage certificate for William Rhodes ? > > Kind regards. > Sylvia > g g grand daughter of William and Ann (Rhodes) McAllister. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Rhodes" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: "Philip T. Rhodes" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:40 PM > Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] RHODES-BUTTERWORTH-ASHWORTH-KERSHAW > > > > Sylvia, > > > > I notice in your email you show William Rhodes born 1851 yet living with > his > > sister in 1841 census. Do you mean 1815? This could be HIM!!!! And the > > fact the census area shows "Heap" increases the chances for a connection. > > > > We have made some progress, but I'm keeping some postings "off ENG-LAN" > > until > > we firm up the facts. > > > > In the 1881 Census William Rhodes is listed as follows: > > > > William RHODES Head Widowed Male 65 (born c.1815-1816) Heywood, > Lanc. > > Cotton Weaver > > Betsy RHODES Daur Female 21 " > > " > > Thomas RHODES Son Male 18 " > > " > > > > Dwelling: 43 George St > > Census Place: Heap, Lancashire, England > > > > Betsy Rhodes shortly thereafter married a "Thomas Bannister" and William > > Rhodes > > moved in with them until he passed away. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sylvia walch [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 4:25 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] RHODES-BUTTERWORTH-ASHWORTH-KERSHAW > > >

Hi I've got this link off the IGI but was wondering if anyone knew which Parish Records / Church would hold the entry for this batch. I'ts not on Hugh Wallis's site against Prestwich ... I think it's one of those which covers lots of diffeerent areas. Benjamin is my 3x gg and I am linked through his his daughter Hannah BENJAMIN CROMPTON Male Family ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Marriages: Spouse: BETTY GOODMAN Family Marriage: 26 MAY 1833 Prestwich, Lancashire, England Source Information: Batch Number: A457413 Sheet: 00 Source Call No.: 457413-457417 Type: Book

Dear Sylvia, My brother just found the following records in familysearch.org: BIRTH/CHRISTENING ANN RHODES Birth 22 Dec 1806 Christening 13 FEB 1807 Saint Mary, Bury, Lancashire, England Father: JOHN RHODES Mother: BETTY MARRIAGE JOHN RHODES BETTY TAYLOR 05 NOV 1798 Saint Mary, Bury, Lancashire, England Kind regards, Bill Rhodes