The school is Elm Street. Doreen. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 24/06/2005
Hi Norman Dane House was owned by the Schofield family of Oldham. They were part owners of the Dane mills on Dane street, now Grimshaw lane. The house itself is built on a hill overlooking the mills. Regards Tracey & Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Archibald" <normanarch@yahoo.com.au> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:35 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Dane House Middleton > Tracy, i have just read your response to Janet`s posting re "Dane House > with > interest. > My great great grandmother, Betty VERITY is recorded as having died at > "Danes Mill", Tonge, in 1875. > I take it, "Danes Mill" would have some connection with "Dane House", and > the location would possibly be the same.? > Norm in OZ. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tm75.byrne" <tm75.byrne@tesco.net> > To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:27 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Dane House Middleton > > >> Hi Janet >> Dane house is on William street/ Middleton Veiw, next to Tonge Hall, off >> Oldham road. The House is still there but was converted into flats in the >> sixties. >> It was originally built by the Schofield family who owned Dane mills on >> Grimshaw lane. >> One of the Schofield Children went on to be Mayor of Middleton, John > Joseph >> Schofield. >> >> Hope this is of help to you. >> We will be happy to try and help with any other queries you have about > Dane >> house. >> Tracey & Tony >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Janet C" <janetcee52@hotmail.com> >> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:52 PM >> Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Dane House Middleton >> >> >> > Hi again everyone >> > (Can you tell it's too hot for me outside!) >> > Does anyone out there know where Dane House Middleton was/is? >> > TIA >> > Janet Curran >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free > newsletters! >> > http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters >> > >> > >> > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== >> > If you are having trouble unsubscribing please contact the list owner > Joan >> > White emmap@virtualmechanics.com >> > >> >> >> ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== >> To unsubscribe, >> you should send the command "unsubscribe" to > ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L-request@rootsweb.com >> (if in mail mode) or ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in > digest mode.) >> To switch from one mode to the other, you should unsubscribe from one >> and then subscribe to the other. If you >> want messages to stop, you should simply unsubscribe. >> >> > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > Check out the Middleton site for up-dates > http://www.vmims.com/middleton.htm >
Hi Again Janet We have just had a look at your photos. We can Confirm that the first picture is definitely taken at the front of Dane house. The fifth picture is taken at the back door of the house (now used as the front door). The seventh picture, (the football team) also looks to have been taken at the back of the house. We are not sure about the gateway but a bit of detective work over the weekend will solve that! Yours Tracey & Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet C" <janetcee52@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 9:28 AM Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] More Middleton photos > > I'm really grateful for all the ideas I'm getting about the photos I > posted yesterday on my Blog site:- > http://sharejansphotos.blogspot.com/ > I've just added a few more, including a Middleton school group and a drama > production group, which may be of interest to someone out there! > Regards > Janet C > > _________________________________________________________________ > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger 7.0 today! > http://messenger.msn.co.uk > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== >>==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > To search the archives of this list go to: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L-request@rootsweb.com >
Hi Janet, Found your photo's very interesting. Could the Milkmaids be just a mock up, as this sort of thing was very common for Mayday and bank holidays. They look like mill workers outside a mill!! Could the school be Durnford St. or possibly Elm St. The building looks so Edgar Wood. Has anybody else any ideas as I may be totally wrong. I had a look through my Middleton books lastnight and none of these photo's are in them, although there was one in the Middleton in Retrospect [53] of Tonge A.F.C. The club originated in St. Michael's school and later transferred to a venue behind the "Old Cock Inn". It was registered as a football club in 1887 and from 1890 played at a ground at Tonge Hall. While members of the Manchester League they won the League Cup 5 times and were also league champions on at least one occasion. The club folded in 1923. Hope that gives a bit more input. Margaret. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet C" <janetcee52@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 9:28 AM Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] More Middleton photos > > I'm really grateful for all the ideas I'm getting about the photos I > posted yesterday on my Blog site:- > http://sharejansphotos.blogspot.com/ > I've just added a few more, including a Middleton school group and a drama > production group, which may be of interest to someone out there! > Regards > Janet C > > _________________________________________________________________ > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger 7.0 today! > http://messenger.msn.co.uk > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== >>==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > To search the archives of this list go to: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L-request@rootsweb.com > >
Thanks for your ideas Margaret. The Merry Milkmaids photo is of particular interest to us, as we think that one of the girls dressed up as a man, in top hat,is my husband's grandmother. I'm hoping someone else will be able to positively identify the group. His grandmother, Eliza Ann BENTLEY, certainly worked in a Mill at one point, as we have inherited her collection of postcards, and one says: "Dear Liza, Hope you are getting on alright at the mill. Will be seeing you some time. My mates having a bad time since you left. With love from both, May" She also worked at the Jam Works, which we learnt from another postcard: "9 Crag Brow Chadderton Dear Friend, Sorry to hear of your Accident, at Jam Works. But I hear it is not very serious, but I suppose it is bad enough hope you will soon be alright. Yours sincerely J.S." But the stamps (and hence the postmarks) were removed from the cards by an over-zealous young philatelist at some point, so I can't accurately date either - but they must pre-date her marriage in early 1913 as they are addressed to her maiden name. Anyway, thanks again for your input - all suggestions are being kept for future reference! Best wishes Janet Curran >From: "Margaret Fletcher" <moonraker47@tiscali.co.uk> >Reply-To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] More Middleton photos >Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:04:33 +0100 > >Hi Janet, >Found your photo's very interesting. Could the Milkmaids be just a mock up, >as this sort of thing was very common for Mayday and bank holidays. They >look like mill workers outside a mill!! >Could the school be Durnford St. or possibly Elm St. The building looks so >Edgar Wood. >Has anybody else any ideas as I may be totally wrong. >I had a look through my Middleton books lastnight and none of these photo's >are in them, although there was one in the Middleton in Retrospect [53] of >Tonge A.F.C. >The club originated in St. Michael's school and later transferred to a >venue behind the "Old Cock Inn". It was registered as a football club in >1887 and from 1890 played at a ground at Tonge Hall. While members of the >Manchester League they won the League Cup 5 times and were also league >champions on at least one occasion. The club folded in 1923. >Hope that gives a bit more input. >Margaret. >----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet C" <janetcee52@hotmail.com> >To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 9:28 AM >Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] More Middleton photos > > >> >>I'm really grateful for all the ideas I'm getting about the photos I >>posted yesterday on my Blog site:- >>http://sharejansphotos.blogspot.com/ >>I've just added a few more, including a Middleton school group and a drama >>production group, which may be of interest to someone out there! >>Regards >>Janet C >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger 7.0 today! >>http://messenger.msn.co.uk >> >> >>==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== >>>==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== >>To search the archives of this list go to: >>http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L-request@rootsweb.com >> >> > > > >==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== >Create your own home page with Web Dwarf, a FREE HTML Editor >http://www.vmims.com/dwarf.htm > _________________________________________________________________ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/
Hello again Doreen, Is the magazine you mention a one off publication, or is it ongoing. Is it something that i would learn from, regarding Middleton and it`s history.? Norm. ----- Original Message ----- From: "doreen EL-AHWANY" <doreen@elahwany.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:12 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Middleton photos help required > Memories of Middleton is a magazine full of a mixture of articles and > photos. > Costs £1.50 > Address - Memories of Middleton, PO Box 73, Middleton, Nr Manchester, M24 > 2QY. > > Have no connection with the mag - just a very satisfied reader. > > Doreen. > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/06/2005 > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > Create your own home page with Web Dwarf, a FREE HTML Editor http://www.vmims.com/dwarf.htm > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Tracy, i have just read your response to Janet`s posting re "Dane House with interest. My great great grandmother, Betty VERITY is recorded as having died at "Danes Mill", Tonge, in 1875. I take it, "Danes Mill" would have some connection with "Dane House", and the location would possibly be the same.? Norm in OZ. ----- Original Message ----- From: "tm75.byrne" <tm75.byrne@tesco.net> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:27 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Dane House Middleton > Hi Janet > Dane house is on William street/ Middleton Veiw, next to Tonge Hall, off > Oldham road. The House is still there but was converted into flats in the > sixties. > It was originally built by the Schofield family who owned Dane mills on > Grimshaw lane. > One of the Schofield Children went on to be Mayor of Middleton, John Joseph > Schofield. > > Hope this is of help to you. > We will be happy to try and help with any other queries you have about Dane > house. > Tracey & Tony > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janet C" <janetcee52@hotmail.com> > To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:52 PM > Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Dane House Middleton > > > > Hi again everyone > > (Can you tell it's too hot for me outside!) > > Does anyone out there know where Dane House Middleton was/is? > > TIA > > Janet Curran > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! > > http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > > If you are having trouble unsubscribing please contact the list owner Joan > > White emmap@virtualmechanics.com > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, > you should send the command "unsubscribe" to ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L-request@rootsweb.com > (if in mail mode) or ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > To switch from one mode to the other, you should unsubscribe from one > and then subscribe to the other. If you > want messages to stop, you should simply unsubscribe. > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Janet, my g.g.grandmother died at "Dane`s Mill", Middleton. Dane house would possibly be connected. If you do get a response to where it was or is, which i believe you will, could you also let me know please. Norm in OZ. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet C" <janetcee52@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 3:52 AM Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Dane House Middleton > Hi again everyone > (Can you tell it's too hot for me outside!) > Does anyone out there know where Dane House Middleton was/is? > TIA > Janet Curran > > _________________________________________________________________ > Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! > http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > If you are having trouble unsubscribing please contact the list owner Joan White emmap@virtualmechanics.com > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Thanks Doreen, I will follow this up. Janet >From: "doreen EL-AHWANY" <doreen@elahwany.freeserve.co.uk> >Reply-To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Middleton photos help required >Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:12:29 +0100 > >Memories of Middleton is a magazine full of a mixture of articles and >photos. >Costs £1.50 >Address - Memories of Middleton, PO Box 73, Middleton, Nr Manchester, M24 >2QY. > >Have no connection with the mag - just a very satisfied reader. > >Doreen. > _________________________________________________________________ Winks & nudges are here - download MSN Messenger 7.0 today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk
I'm really grateful for all the ideas I'm getting about the photos I posted yesterday on my Blog site:- http://sharejansphotos.blogspot.com/ I've just added a few more, including a Middleton school group and a drama production group, which may be of interest to someone out there! Regards Janet C _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger 7.0 today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk
Memories of Middleton is a magazine full of a mixture of articles and photos. Costs £1.50 Address - Memories of Middleton, PO Box 73, Middleton, Nr Manchester, M24 2QY. Have no connection with the mag - just a very satisfied reader. Doreen. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/06/2005
Hi again Janet The Coates family did live there for a while. Tony actually lived in one of the flats at the house up until late last year. We were totally fascinated by the house so we decided to have a little dig into its history! It would have been a very grand house in its day. If you would like any pictures of the house as it is today, we can mail them off list to you. Tracey & Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet C" <janetcee52@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Dane House Middleton > Thanks Tracey and Tony > I'll get onto Multimap and have a look! > > My husband's great-aunt lived there with her family for some time pre-WW2 > I think. Her husband was Tom Coates, who was also a mayor of Middleton > (about 1941 I believe). > > I'll print out your reply and add it to the file of info I'm > accumulating - all snippets like this make the family history much more > interesting for others to read. > > Appreciate your help > Janet Curran > > > >>From: "tm75.byrne" <tm75.byrne@tesco.net> >>Reply-To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com >>To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Dane House Middleton >>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:27:04 +0100 >> >>Hi Janet >>Dane house is on William street/ Middleton Veiw, next to Tonge Hall, off >>Oldham road. The House is still there but was converted into flats in the >>sixties. >>It was originally built by the Schofield family who owned Dane mills on >>Grimshaw lane. >>One of the Schofield Children went on to be Mayor of Middleton, John >>Joseph Schofield. >> >>Hope this is of help to you. >>We will be happy to try and help with any other queries you have about >>Dane house. >>Tracey & Tony >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! > http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > If you have a home page with content interesting to subscribers of the > Middleton List send an email to emmap@virtualmechhanics.com >
Hi Janet Dane house is on William street/ Middleton Veiw, next to Tonge Hall, off Oldham road. The House is still there but was converted into flats in the sixties. It was originally built by the Schofield family who owned Dane mills on Grimshaw lane. One of the Schofield Children went on to be Mayor of Middleton, John Joseph Schofield. Hope this is of help to you. We will be happy to try and help with any other queries you have about Dane house. Tracey & Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet C" <janetcee52@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:52 PM Subject: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Dane House Middleton > Hi again everyone > (Can you tell it's too hot for me outside!) > Does anyone out there know where Dane House Middleton was/is? > TIA > Janet Curran > > _________________________________________________________________ > Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! > http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > If you are having trouble unsubscribing please contact the list owner Joan > White emmap@virtualmechanics.com >
Thanks Tracey and Tony I'll get onto Multimap and have a look! My husband's great-aunt lived there with her family for some time pre-WW2 I think. Her husband was Tom Coates, who was also a mayor of Middleton (about 1941 I believe). I'll print out your reply and add it to the file of info I'm accumulating - all snippets like this make the family history much more interesting for others to read. Appreciate your help Janet Curran >From: "tm75.byrne" <tm75.byrne@tesco.net> >Reply-To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Dane House Middleton >Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:27:04 +0100 > >Hi Janet >Dane house is on William street/ Middleton Veiw, next to Tonge Hall, off >Oldham road. The House is still there but was converted into flats in the >sixties. >It was originally built by the Schofield family who owned Dane mills on >Grimshaw lane. >One of the Schofield Children went on to be Mayor of Middleton, John Joseph >Schofield. > >Hope this is of help to you. >We will be happy to try and help with any other queries you have about Dane >house. >Tracey & Tony > _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters
Middleton memories team? Haven't heard of this before, could you let me have details? Thanks Janet >Why not send copies to the "Middleton Memories" team. This come out 2 or 3 >times a yr. > >Doreen. > > _________________________________________________________________ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/
Hi Doreen Thanks for the answer to the uniform query, and your stab at the football one. The family did live in the Tonge area, so that is a possibility. If I have time when I get up to Middleton library, I may have a look through the local papers - Sports reports - as maybe the team won something that year and that's why they had their photo taken. I misled you with the 3rd photo - I think that one would have been taken either on the Wirral or in the Thornton Cleveleys area. Thanks for your help - much appreciated, as usual. Regards Janet >From: "doreen EL-AHWANY" <doreen@elahwany.freeserve.co.uk> >Reply-To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Middleton photos help required >Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:06:02 +0100 > >Hi Janet, > >The first one is in the uniform of Queen Elizabeths Grammar School in >Middleton. > >Not sure about the second - there was the Tonge Amateur Football Assoc. >Could this one be Tonge Lads? (Just a thought). > >Doreen. > _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger 7.0 today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk
It is hot isn`t it? I should have put that there was a Tonge AFC not AFA. The 3rd isn`t the Rectory is it? Chimneys don`t look the same really. Why not send copies to the "Middleton Memories" team. This come out 2 or 3 times a yr. Doreen. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/06/2005
Hi Janet, The first one is in the uniform of Queen Elizabeths Grammar School in Middleton. Not sure about the second - there was the Tonge Amateur Football Assoc. Could this one be Tonge Lads? (Just a thought). Doreen. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/06/2005
I have a link to them on my web site http://www.vmims.com/mag.html Joan > Thanks Tracey and Tony > I'll get onto Multimap and have a look! > > My husband's great-aunt lived there with her family for some time pre-WW2 > I think. Her husband was Tom Coates, who was also a mayor of Middleton > (about 1941 I believe). > > I'll print out your reply and add it to the file of info I'm > accumulating - all snippets like this make the family history much more > interesting for others to read. > > Appreciate your help > Janet Curran > > > >>From: "tm75.byrne" <tm75.byrne@tesco.net> >>Reply-To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com >>To: ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON-L] Dane House Middleton >>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:27:04 +0100 >> >>Hi Janet >>Dane house is on William street/ Middleton Veiw, next to Tonge Hall, off >>Oldham road. The House is still there but was converted into flats in the >>sixties. >>It was originally built by the Schofield family who owned Dane mills on >>Grimshaw lane. >>One of the Schofield Children went on to be Mayor of Middleton, John >>Joseph Schofield. >> >>Hope this is of help to you. >>We will be happy to try and help with any other queries you have about >>Dane house. >>Tracey & Tony >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! > http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters > > > ==== ENG-LAN-MIDDLETON Mailing List ==== > If you have a home page with content interesting to subscribers of the > Middleton List send an email to emmap@virtualmechhanics.com >
Hi again everyone (Can you tell it's too hot for me outside!) Does anyone out there know where Dane House Middleton was/is? TIA Janet Curran _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters