Hello Dorothea I don't have any MORTs on my family tree as yet but do have a MORT mystery. I have a letter of 1917 address to my great, great aunt Betsy ROYLE of Pendlebury from a Manchester firm of solictors. It would appear that she thought she was due an inheritance from the will of a William MORT dating back to 1856. She never got the legacy and I don't know what the relationship was. All families have will arguments and the ROYLEs more than most. I know there was a problem with a will on the GREENHALGH side of her family. Any info most welcome Louise ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bromwell13@aol.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 9:10 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Morts/Cleworth > Hello, > Is there anyone researching descendants of the following names? > CHARLES MORT grocer of Farnworth who married in to the ISHERWOOD family. > Son Fred born in Pendleton 1896. > ERNEST PARR CLEWORTH Culcheth,marrried > Mary Ann Isherwood (POLLIE) > Thank You. > Dorothea. > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Dear Chris Montague Burton's tailors shop opened on Friday 14th January 1938, I always bought my suits there the manager left in the early 60's and the standard of tailoring seemed to go down hill and the shop closed they closed the Burtons factory witch was near Leigh shortly after and I think they started to import clothing from overseas made by cheap labour, some years later a firm named John Colliers opened a tailors shop across the road in Bradshawgate that was then taken over by Burton's some years later and is still there today. I went to the library yesterday and found a local newspaper article about the opening, I scanned it but it was not very good I tried to send it as an attachment but it bounced they didd not give a reason other than your post box might be full so what I will do is I will take my camera to the library and photograph the news cutting I will then doctor it up on my photographic program and try to send it again it may take a couple of weeks but I will see that you get it one way or another. Cheers Tom. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Chris4Nuttall@aol.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 11:42 AM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Bradshawgate Leigh 1930's > Hi everyone > > Wondered if anyone had information on the large tailors shop at the junction > of Bradshawgate and King St Leigh. When approx was it built, and was it once > a Burtons shop? > I understood that my uncle Jesse BRAMMER was manager there during the mid > 1930's. There was also talk of a second hand jewellers which he ran (possibly > across the rd) > His wife was called Ethel and they lived at 9 Manor Grove Bedford at the time. > > Would any info be available at Leigh library? > > Thanks for any help. > > Chris > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Sorry Dorothea - - I don't have the right MORT connection in my information. But the MORT surname does lead me to post the following information. I have a MORT name which ties to a number of families that emigrated from the Leigh area to the United States, specifically, the Yorkville, Racine County, Wisconsin. Many came during the 1840s from the Leigh area to Wisconsin. Alice MORT (born 1793) married George HURST (born 17 August 1792)on 20 November 1814 in the Church of England, Parish Church of Wigan. There was a family that emigrated about the same time to Yorkville - - the Jonathan MORT family. There is a website titled, The Mort Family in England and America at: http://www.lafuente.net/mort/ I believe the Alice MORT was probably connected to this family - - but I am not certain how. George and Alice MORT Hurst's daughter, Alice HURST (b. 20 August 1839, ) married Joshua COLLIER (b. 6 October 1832), at Racine County, Wisconsin, 35 December 1861. Joshua COLLIER was the son of William COLLIER and Margaret RIDYARD Collier both born Lancashire and emigrated to Yorkville, Racine, Wisconsin. In 1848, when sixteen years old, he came to this country in company with three cousins of his own age, Joseph Collier, Joshua Boydell, and William Birchall. He located in Racine county, first in Racine, where he worked at his trade as a ship carpenter, and later near Sylvania, where he purchased land. Subsequently his parents came to this country, and settled near him. My great-grandfather was Joseph Ratliff COLLIER (born 1832- - a son of Peter COLLIER and Betty RATLIFF Collier. We have a prayer book that he was awarded when he was 15 years old for Bible memorization at Wigan. In 1907 Joseph COLLIER returned to Lancashire to visit family - - I do not believe he had ever returned from the time he emigrated. Using census data - - I think he returned to see his brother, Samuel COLLIER, as he named his first child Samuel. None of his siblings emigrated. The names of COLLIER, and BOYDELL as well as BIRCHALL, MORT, AND HURST have been identified with Lowton also. Any one interested in the American side - - or information that may help us to connect with the Lancashire side - - I would very much like to make connections with you. Sincerely, Pat Ash Seattle, Washington USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "louiseoliver" <louiseoliver@btopenworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:58 AM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Morts/Cleworth > Hello Dorothea > > I don't have any MORTs on my family tree as yet but do have a MORT mystery. > I have a letter of 1917 address to my great, great aunt Betsy ROYLE of > Pendlebury from a Manchester firm of solictors. It would appear that she > thought she was due an inheritance from the will of a William MORT dating > back to 1856. She never got the legacy and I don't know what the > relationship was. All families have will arguments and the ROYLEs more than > most. I know there was a problem with a will on the GREENHALGH side of her > family. > > Any info most welcome > > Louise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Bromwell13@aol.com> > To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 9:10 PM > Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Morts/Cleworth > > > > Hello, > > Is there anyone researching descendants of the following names? > > CHARLES MORT grocer of Farnworth who married in to the ISHERWOOD family. > > Son Fred born in Pendleton 1896. > > ERNEST PARR CLEWORTH Culcheth,marrried > > Mary Ann Isherwood (POLLIE) > > Thank You. > > Dorothea. > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & > Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, > Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our > list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute > regularly. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Tom Thanks for the info. I went to Leigh last week and found my mothers name on the electoral roll at 2 Bradshawgate (over) in 1931. This was obviously before Burtons was built as there is a foundation stone I spotted on King St side of the building dated 1937. It was opened by Raymond Montague Burton. This means that my uncle Jesse Brammer lived over the shop until it became Burtons. The family story says he was a gold/jeweller type of shop owner and the confusion was that it was the same site as Burtons. I now need any info on a jeweller from the 1928-1931 era. based at 2 Bradshawgate. I could try the library and search the papers when I next have a spare day. Thanks again for your kind efforts. Chris

Hello, Is there anyone researching descendants of the following names? CHARLES MORT grocer of Farnworth who married in to the ISHERWOOD family. Son Fred born in Pendleton 1896. ERNEST PARR CLEWORTH Culcheth,marrried Mary Ann Isherwood (POLLIE) Thank You. Dorothea.

My research of the Hampson line ( I believe its a common name in the Leigh area) is stalled around the 1881 Census with Thomas Hampson (b 1869 d 1906) married to Elizabeth Jackson (b 1870 d 1948). I have pretty complete tracks for these two (my grandparents). Before them is providing difficulties. Thomas was son of James Hampson whom I cannot trace and Jane Richardson (b 1840). What is surprising is that one of Thomas' siblings was named Leboth ( an unusual name to me) and she appears in the 1881 census together with Mary Ann, John, Edward James and Margaret, none of whom can I find with any certainty. Is anyone else tracking this line? I would appreciate any help or assistance, please Brian Hampson, Montreal, Canada

Hi everyone Im new to this list and was just wondering if anyone can help me to find my gt grandad father. I do not have much to go on.His name is John William BRIDGE.I belive he was born in 1851 as he was down as being 29 on his marr cert.Someone said they thought he came from Blackburn but again i have no proof at this time. His occ was a cook and as he was missing from the 1881 census someone said he may have been at sea. His father again going by his marr cert was called john BRIDGE. If anyone can help me i would be very greatful as i have tried to find him and just dont seem to have any luck. With Thanks Diane

Hi Yes Craig Smith's site is great, I've been in contact with him in the past. My part of the family is on the Descendants of Richard HEATON page, Sarah Ellen HEATON 1878, was my great great grandmother. My grandfather told me tales about her , particularly about when the two of them visited the Heaton family in the grand house to return some family artefacts. I would like to know more about them as people and about the families which they married into Best wishes, Louise Oliver ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shack" <daveshack@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 9:57 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] New member posting interests > Louise: > I have interests in the HEATON name in Leigh starting with Thomas HEATON b1811. > Craig Smith has a wonderful HEATON website which may help you. > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~heaton/index.htm > Feel free to get in touch. > > Dave > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "louiseoliver" <louiseoliver@btopenworld.com> > To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 7:55 AM > Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] New member posting interests > > > Looking for the following families in the Leigh area > > FISHWICK - 1880-1950, Leigh and Atherton > GRUNDY - 1800ish -1900ish, Atherton/Chowbent/Westleigh > BRADLEY - 1850ish (?previously Failsworth) > HEATON - from 1800 or earlier Leigh > GREEN - early 1800s Westleigh > RIDYARD - 1850s > > Other Lancs names, LONSDALE, EDWARDS, LEES,HIGNETT, BURGESS, ROYLE, TURNER, > LEATHER, DEMPSEY, WRIGHT, GREENHALGH, ROGERS, WALLWORK > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & > Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe > Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. > This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 18/06/03 > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Louise: I have interests in the HEATON name in Leigh starting with Thomas HEATON b1811. Craig Smith has a wonderful HEATON website which may help you. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~heaton/index.htm Feel free to get in touch. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "louiseoliver" <louiseoliver@btopenworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 7:55 AM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] New member posting interests Looking for the following families in the Leigh area FISHWICK - 1880-1950, Leigh and Atherton GRUNDY - 1800ish -1900ish, Atherton/Chowbent/Westleigh BRADLEY - 1850ish (?previously Failsworth) HEATON - from 1800 or earlier Leigh GREEN - early 1800s Westleigh RIDYARD - 1850s Other Lancs names, LONSDALE, EDWARDS, LEES,HIGNETT, BURGESS, ROYLE, TURNER, LEATHER, DEMPSEY, WRIGHT, GREENHALGH, ROGERS, WALLWORK ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 18/06/03

Hi David There is only two persons by the name of Lingings in the Leigh telephone directory they are, B, Lingings, 61, Princess Avenue, Astley, Leigh Lancashire, phone, 01942 878928, and G, Lingings, 4, Beckside, Tyldesley near Manchester, phone, 01942 878887, both these addresses are on the outskirts of Leigh in the Wigan area, I hope this Helps. Good hunting Tom Kelly. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Carl DAVIES" <dcdavies@ll184qa.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:41 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Lingings > Dear list > Can any one help me I need to get in touch with the Lingings family I know they are doing there family tree and are from Leigh can any one help me. please > Carl Davies in Rhyl N.Wales > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi, My name is Ann Millar and I am researching the Inghams from the Kenyon area and surrounds. The earliest reference I have that the Inghams orignated from this area is from the 1841 census 11. HO107524-10 PG 9 KENYON, LANCASHIRE AMBROSE INGHAM/55/ SILK WEAVER/YES/ SARAH INGHAM/50/YES/ JOSEPH INGHAM/ 20/YES/ PETER INGHAM/20/YES/ JOHN INGHAM/13/YES// I am specifically after any references to Joseph Ingham. At some stage after between 1841 and 1855 Joseph married Christina McLellan of Scotland and lived in Manchester for the rest of his life. He worked all his life on the railways and died in 1898. I know nothing of this area nor of its history either the village Kenyon or the silk weaving industry nor the railways, I would love to hear from anyone with information on any of these topics. regards, Ann M

Hi everyone Wondered if anyone had information on the large tailors shop at the junction of Bradshawgate and King St Leigh. When approx was it built, and was it once a Burtons shop? I understood that my uncle Jesse BRAMMER was manager there during the mid 1930's. There was also talk of a second hand jewellers which he ran (possibly across the rd) His wife was called Ethel and they lived at 9 Manor Grove Bedford at the time. Would any info be available at Leigh library? Thanks for any help. Chris

Dear John I phoned Mr G. Lingings. they are the family I needed, to get in touch with. thank you very much you don't no what a big help you have been. I have been trying to get hold of the Lingings now for 2 months. A big thank you From Carl Davies

I need to get in touch with the Lingings family ... from Leigh. > Carl Davies in Rhyl N.Wales Hello Carl, There are no Lingings from Leigh in the telephone directory but there are two listed, one living in Astley and one in Tyldesley. If you get no information from the list on the Leigh Lingings you may be successful if you contact one of them. They are 1. B. Lingings, 61 Princes Avenue, Astley. 01942 878928. 2. G. Lingings, 4 Beckside, Tyldesley. 01942 878887. Good Luck, John. johnramsdale@beeb.net

Looking for the following families in the Leigh area FISHWICK - 1880-1950, Leigh and Atherton GRUNDY - 1800ish -1900ish, Atherton/Chowbent/Westleigh BRADLEY - 1850ish (?previously Failsworth) HEATON - from 1800 or earlier Leigh GREEN - early 1800s Westleigh RIDYARD - 1850s Other Lancs names, LONSDALE, EDWARDS, LEES,HIGNETT, BURGESS, ROYLE, TURNER, LEATHER, DEMPSEY, WRIGHT, GREENHALGH, ROGERS, WALLWORK

Dear list Can any one help me I need to get in touch with the Lingings family I know they are doing there family tree and are from Leigh can any one help me. please Carl Davies in Rhyl N.Wales

Hello Listers, This is such a useful site that I hope no one minds me cross-posting :o) http://www.historicaldirectories.org Joan POWELL (née MORTIMER) Researching from Australia MORTIMER - Lancs after 1890 MORTIMER - Yorks, Birstall 1798 - 1890 SHAW - Lancs, Hindley before 1881 GREGORY - Lancs, Hindley, Wigan before 1806 SEDDON - Lancs, Westhoughton before 1805 DEAN, Samuel - Yorks, Leeds before 1790 DEAN, James - Yorks, Leeds b.1792 THORNTON - Durham, Ingleton before 1842 MILLER - Yorkshire, Gomersall before 1777 GREENHALGH, Sarah - Lancs possibly near Hindley b.1844 JONES, Eliza - Lancs, Wigan b.`1848

Hi Joan, Would you happen to have any information on Alice SEDDON b. 1835? Worsley, Lancs. Any information would be much appreciated. Margaret Lee South Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Ann Powell" <jopo@burnett.net.au> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:32 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Good Directories Site > Hello Listers, > > This is such a useful site that I hope no one minds me cross-posting :o) > > http://www.historicaldirectories.org > > Joan POWELL (née MORTIMER) > > Researching from Australia > > MORTIMER - Lancs after 1890 > MORTIMER - Yorks, Birstall 1798 - 1890 > SHAW - Lancs, Hindley before 1881 > GREGORY - Lancs, Hindley, Wigan before 1806 > SEDDON - Lancs, Westhoughton before 1805 > DEAN, Samuel - Yorks, Leeds before 1790 > DEAN, James - Yorks, Leeds b.1792 > THORNTON - Durham, Ingleton before 1842 > MILLER - Yorkshire, Gomersall before 1777 > GREENHALGH, Sarah - Lancs possibly near Hindley b.1844 > JONES, Eliza - Lancs, Wigan b.`1848 > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

thanks for that! Ian. "Sorry, Donald BOYDELL moved to Epson and not Sutton Cheers Tom" _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile

My Great Grandfather was John Battersby born 1842 died at 34 Battersby Street in the Bedford area of Leigh in 1924, aged 82, his Wife Ann died in 1906 aged 67, they had two Daughters Eliza Battersby, my Grandmother and Harriet Battersby. Tom Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "gavinyates" <gavinyates@xtra.co.nz> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 5:58 AM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] lonely > Fraid not - my Battersby only turns up by marrying a Harrison in the early > 20th century (Frederick by name). > > gy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Hamiltonsearch@aol.com> > To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 7:43 PM > Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] > lonely > > > > Hi Gavin > > > > I have a maverick Martha Battersby who was adopted into the > WOODWARD/NEWTON > > households in the Bedford area of Leigh. My father reckoned her family > from > > around Henrietta Street though the 1871 census describes her as being born > in > > Atherton. Have not been able to find her birth. > > > > According to the 1871 census she was born in 1863. > > > > Have you by any chance come across this lady. > > > > Cheers > > > > Gill Hamilton in Southport > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & > Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, > Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our > list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute > regularly. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 6/5/03 > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >