Dear Listers Does SKS have access this Directory? Axon's Commercial & General Directory of Bolton, Farnworth, Kersley, Halliwell, Astley Bridge, Turton, Ainsworth, Walkden, Westhoughton, and the townships comprised in the Bolton Union I am searching for any Westhoughton Directory 1750-1825? Has any other Westhoughton researcher found access to such directories? Wishing and hoping in Canada. Kathy

Reposting Hodson Interest in Westhoughton. GEORGE HODSON B: 09 Feb 1755, westhoughton whos father was William Hodson George and Ann Hurst wed 10 JUL 1787 Deane By Bolton Children: JOHN HODSON B: 29 APR 1792 Westhoughton, GEORGE HODSON B: 05 FEB 1788 Westhoughton, Son George wed Betty Marsh: 02 SEP 1806 Deane By Bolton, Children: MARGT HODSON B: 01 JAN 1809 Westhoughton, William HODSON B: 04 JUL 1816 Westhoughton wed Margaret Hobson then later Mary Shaw- Moved to West Derby about 1840. JOHN HODSON Born:11 NOV 1818 Christened:09 DEC 1818 Wesleyan, Wigan, RICHARD HODSON B:23 APR 1821 Westhoughton HENRY HODSON B: 24 MAY 1823 Westhoughton For other Hodson researchers. There are over 115 Hodson births listed 1732-1840 Fiche 6904480 LDS Church It is well worth ordering. Good Luck Kathy CDN

Hi, Pamela, I have just been browsing through the various mailing lists and saw one for canal boat people - see web site below. http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ Regarding the Cundliffes, do you know where the glass works was, as I found several glass makers living in the Plank Lane area on the 1881 census. I asked my mother if she remembered any glass works in the area (she is 97, and was brought up in Plank Lane) but she doesn't remember any. Regards, Valerie > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

In response to the glassmaking question I remember a factory at Hindley Green/Tamar area of Leigh. Today it is the Volex factory but I'll be damned if I can remember the original name. I do remember climbing the plastic covered wire fence and robbing a few glass baubles that we used as marbles. I want to say its name had something to do with Hilton or something like that. This was back in the 70's. Hope this helps. DAVE

Hi Valerie Saw your note about Plank Lane. I was born at the "Firs" in 1944. Do you or your mum know when and why it closed? Is there any history of the place in Leigh Library? I believe houses are built there now. Chris

Have found Church lane in Lowton on disc 3 524 11 & 12. There are four pages of Lowton workhouse on there as well - Very neat handwriting!! Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shack" <daveshack@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 8:06 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Church lane LEIGH 1841 Anyone any idea what fiche Church lane,Leigh is on in 1841 ? I'm looking for William Bennett aged 68 who I believe is either my 3xGtGrandmother's uncle or even her father. I have the discs but I can't find the HO number. TIA Dave --- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.496 / Virus Database: 295 - Release Date: 03/07/03

I would be one of your first listers on you know what Valerie. I would still be on this one as well Dave. Bob Howard -------Original Message------- From: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, July 06, 2003 12:01:21 To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Bolton Dave, I would be very interested in setting up a list for Bolton. How would I go about it? Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Leighite@aol.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 8:34 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Bolton >

Dave, I would be very interested in setting up a list for Bolton. How would I go about it? Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Leighite@aol.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 8:34 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Bolton > Guys, > > I don't mean to be the big ogre of a listowner, but can we refrain from the > Bolton listings? > > I am not being picky, there is, I believe a valid reason for not having > Bolton as part of our list. Bolton, although only 8-10 miles north of Leigh, is > much larger population wise. If we allow Bolton and Wigan into our list we > could end up being swamped with these requests and our town of Leigh and its > surrounding villages cut out completely. A little similar to 1974. > > I would suggest that if someone needs/wants a list for these areas then set a > list up. They are very easy to monitor, at least this one is (thanks to all > of you). > > Please don't take offence to my posting, I just don't want our list to be > overtaken by outside towns. It seems that we are growing nicely and, after all, > Bolton (and Wigan) are out of our area coverage. > > Thanks. > > DAVE > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Dave, Quite understand about not including the Pie Eaters. Glad to hear it's nothing personal, though! Cheers, Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Leighite@aol.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 8:34 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Bolton > Guys, > > I don't mean to be the big ogre of a listowner, but can we refrain from the > Bolton listings? > > I am not being picky, there is, I believe a valid reason for not having > Bolton as part of our list. Bolton, although only 8-10 miles north of Leigh, is > much larger population wise. If we allow Bolton and Wigan into our list we > could end up being swamped with these requests and our town of Leigh and its > surrounding villages cut out completely. A little similar to 1974. > > I would suggest that if someone needs/wants a list for these areas then set a > list up. They are very easy to monitor, at least this one is (thanks to all > of you). > > Please don't take offence to my posting, I just don't want our list to be > overtaken by outside towns. It seems that we are growing nicely and, after all, > Bolton (and Wigan) are out of our area coverage. > > Thanks. > > DAVE > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Dave, I think that I inadvertently started the string on Bolton by asking for help/advise of a fellow list member. Being a newcomer I am not familiar with the rules of these list, other than to pay heed to the listowner. I apologise for my ignorance in thinking that these places were closer together. On a lighter note, I am sure that you know that the "Pie Eaters" have all the Leigh records? Mr Robert Howard MBE si post fata venit gloria non propero if glory comes after death, I'm not in a hurry. -------Original Message------- From: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, July 05, 2003 20:34:53 To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Bolton Guys, I don't mean to be the big ogre of a listowner, but can we refrain from the Bolton listings? I am not being picky, there is, I believe a valid reason for not having Bolton as part of our list. Bolton, although only 8-10 miles north of Leigh, is much larger population wise. If we allow Bolton and Wigan into our list we could end up being swamped with these requests and our town of Leigh and its surrounding villages cut out completely. A little similar to 1974. I would suggest that if someone needs/wants a list for these areas then set a list up. They are very easy to monitor, at least this one is (thanks to all of you). Please don't take offence to my posting, I just don't want our list to be overtaken by outside towns. It seems that we are growing nicely and, after all, Bolton (and Wigan) are out of our area coverage. Thanks. DAVE ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 .

Many thanks for the address Pamela. I will keep it handy but as I am seeking Deane records in 1735 I don't think that the registrar could help in this case. I am most grateful to you. Bob Howard. -------Original Message------- From: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, July 05, 2003 17:01:02 To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Bolton Hello My ancestors were married at Deane Parish Church and I got the marriage certificate from Bolton Registrars Mere Hall Mere Hall St Bolton I dont know if you can apply on line but look up Bolton on Google and you will get the info Pamela ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert.howard403" <robert.howard403@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:37 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Bolton > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 .

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Anyone any idea what fiche Church lane,Leigh is on in 1841 ? I'm looking for William Bennett aged 68 who I believe is either my 3xGtGrandmother's uncle or even her father. I have the discs but I can't find the HO number. TIA Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.496 / Virus Database: 295 - Release Date: 03/07/03

In a message dated 7/4/03 6:01:29 PM Central Daylight Time, ENG-LAN-LEIGH-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Go ahead and swap Westhoughton info if you wish, but that's probably about > as > far north as we will be allowing through this list. > Thanks Dave, my grandmother was born in Westhoughten. Her maiden name was Ellen Hodkinson. I don't have too much on her yet, as I have been doing her husband's line, Joseph T. Fletcher Paul Fletcher

Hello My ancestors were married at Deane Parish Church and I got the marriage certificate from Bolton Registrars Mere Hall Mere Hall St Bolton I dont know if you can apply on line but look up Bolton on Google and you will get the info Pamela ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert.howard403" <robert.howard403@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:37 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Bolton > I live on the South coast and I am researching the Calland family in Leigh. > A couple of my ancestors were married at Deane Parish Church and at St Peter > s, Bolton Le Moors. Would SKS give me the address where these records for > Bolton are held and can I apply online or by post for copies. Thanks in > anticipation. > > Bob Howard > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

No problem, Robert. I hope you and our other members understand my reasoning behind my decision. I do also realise that the "Big Wigginers" hold a large amount of information for much of our area but Wigan as a town is too large to admit to our list. I will take this opportunity to say that if anyone needs geographical help for the Wigan MBC area you are invited to e-mail me privately as I spent nigh on 10 years working in the Planning Dept there and know the area quite well. Thnaks for your understanding. DAVE

Looking for the following families in the Leigh area: Stanley GRUNDY who married a cousin Edith ELMS, d/o Sam ELMS & Maggie THORPE, no further information on this couple. Maggie's parents were Robert THORPE born c1856 in Bedford, LAN, married my Maternal cousin Ellen CARPENTER in Apr-Jun Qtr 1877 in Leigh. Robert buried on 15 Feb 1939 and Ellen died 10 Oct 1938, both in Leigh. Their children are as follows: 1) William Henry CARPENTER, born c1873 in Wales, mar. Margery ?, died 12 Jul 1914, he was a Postman, no known children. 2) Emma THORPE, born c1878 in Bedford, mar. James ELMS in Oct-Dec Qtr 1902, died c1950's, no known children. 3) Frank THORPE, born c1880 in Bedford, died 19 Apr 1881. 4) Maggie THORPE, mar. Sam ELMS. 5) Mary THORPE, mar. Harry PAGE. 6) Alfred THORPE, born c1888, buried 19 Sep 1892. 7) Fred THORPE, mar. ?, they had no children. In the 1881 Census Robert, Ellen, William, Emma and Frank THORPE, were living at 21 Chapmans Road, Bedford. Can anyone help me with an 1891 and 1901 Census look-up? William CARPENTER, bc1810, Somerset, married Mary SWETMAN, 13 Jan 1834 in Shepton Mallet, SOM, d/o Betty JENNINGS and adopted d/o Thomas SWETMAN. William died 2 Oct 1882 and Mary died 24 Sep 1900, both in Leigh. They are both buried in Leigh Public Cemetery, their grandson Willam Henry CARPENTER is also buried with them. When I visited I was unable to find the THORPE's graves. Did not at the time know about the other surnames to look for there. Is anyone able to do look-up's in the newspapers for Death/Funeral notices, as I would dearly like to know where these people are buried, and if in the local area, could photos of headstones be taken, I'll reimburse the costs for this. Is there anyone out there that has any of these people in their family tree? Regards Heather.

Guys, I don't mean to be the big ogre of a listowner, but can we refrain from the Bolton listings? I am not being picky, there is, I believe a valid reason for not having Bolton as part of our list. Bolton, although only 8-10 miles north of Leigh, is much larger population wise. If we allow Bolton and Wigan into our list we could end up being swamped with these requests and our town of Leigh and its surrounding villages cut out completely. A little similar to 1974. I would suggest that if someone needs/wants a list for these areas then set a list up. They are very easy to monitor, at least this one is (thanks to all of you). Please don't take offence to my posting, I just don't want our list to be overtaken by outside towns. It seems that we are growing nicely and, after all, Bolton (and Wigan) are out of our area coverage. Thanks. DAVE

Hello I am researching CUNDLIFFE ,DREW,CLITHEROE,BALDWIN,JACKSON all with connections to Leigh. William DREW my ggg grandfather was born in Staunton Gloucs but moved to Westhoughton and married Elizabeth CLITHEROE at Deane Parish Church in 1828 .According to their marriage certificate they both lived in Westhoughton although Elizabeth was living with her parents at Claremont Bolton in 1841. Her Parents were Thomas and Jane CLITHEROE (sometimes spelled CLITHEROW), Thomas was an engineer. On Elizabeths census returns she is born in Horwich. She and all her brothers and sisters were christened at Wigan Parish Church. I wonder if any one has any idea why they should travel to Wigan to be christened. William and Elizabeth travelled around the country ( he was a miner )living in Durham Derbyshire and Wigan but eventually ended up in Leigh owning the Swan Hotel. He is buried in Leigh cemetery with Elizabeth and the grave next to them belongs to Elizabeths parents Thomas and Jane CLITHEROE. I presume Thomas and Jane must have moved to Leigh at some earlier date. Thomas died ! in 1879 and Jane in 1870. If anyone has the 1861 or 1871 census for Leigh and surrounds could they look for them please? I would be very grateful. The BALDWINS and JACKSONS were canal people from the Plank Lane Area my grandma was born on a barge as were her brothers and sisters mainly Manchester Abram Leigh and Lee (not Leigh) I dont know where Lee is although I have found one in Shropshire near to the canal -could be that. On the census there is no boat name - any ideas how I can find the name? The CUNDLIFFES were glass makers from Plank Lane area if anyone else is researching these names please get in touch Hope I haven't bored you all!! Pamela

This is just a short note as I have thanked personally those who have helped my enquiry regarding Westhoughton and the Welch family. Your List is quite unique, friendly and very helpful. Many thanks to all especially Pam. Robyn Clarke Australia