Sonia I have an Alice FAIRCLOUGH 1882-1910 in my tree. Although not the same Alice that you list, the Alice I refer to also had a father JOHN, 1854-1923, married to Margaret UNSWORTH. Parents of John FAIRCLOUGH, b.1854, are William FAIRCLOUGH and Lucy ECKERSLEY. Father of William FAIRCLOUGH is another John. Known siblings of Alice, b.1882, are Lucy Mary FAIRCLOUGH, 1880-1951, and Harold FAIRCLOUGH, b.1887 Chances are that there is a connection between the two families. Tania --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.498 / Virus Database: 297 - Release Date: 7/8/2003

Wondering if I have any cousins on this list to say hello to and who might be able to help me with my digging! Am researching: SAMUEL MORRIS b 1885 in Leigh and ALICE FAIRCLOUGH b 1886 in Pennington. SAMUEL'S parent's were: Joseph Morris and Mary Rawle both from Lancashire. ALICE"S parents were: John William Fairclough and mother was Jane Ball don't know where they were from yet. ALICE also had a sister named Betty (Fairclough) Johnson. Well, if you recognize any of the names, even if you don't! stop in for a cup of tea and a chat! Sonia Hamilton, Ontario Canada.

Seeking info/contact for three members of the Harrison family in early 20th century Leigh, originally of Golborne (children of William and Clara (Pimblett) Harrison m1868) 1. William Harrison m Mary Ellen Ramsdale Leigh 1898. Their children include Margaret Alice Harrison m James Hall Leigh 1928; Sarah Harrison m Frederick Battersby Leigh 1931; Clara Harrison m Norman Hector Smith Leigh 1931 - with children Norman Smith b 1938, Margaret Smith b 1942 and m Alan Douglas Williams 1960, and Doreen Smith b Leigh 1948. 2. Hannah Bertha (Annie) Harrison m Patrrick O'Neill Leigh 1900 3. Rose Hetty Harrison m Alfred Wilkinson Leigh 1902 Any assistance most gratefully received. Gavin Harrison Yates (in Christchurch, New Zealand) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.490 / Virus Database: 289 - Release Date: 6/16/03

Hi Tom, I suppose Jane could be one of my Bulloughs. There were certainly a lot of them in the area. Right now I don't have much to go on with Jemima. Cheers Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Kelly" <kellyi@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:07 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] [(ENG-LEIGH)] JEMIMA BULLOUGH(BULLOW) > Dear PAT > My Wifes family were Chowbent Chapeler's and I have a Marriage Certificate > dated 1874 of a Jane Bullough who married my Wife's Ggrandfather Thomas Sale > who was a Bolt maker his fathers name was William Sale (DECEASED) Iron > Moulder, Janes Father was James Bullough Master Painter They were Married at > St, James's Church Atherton ByCertificateThe whitness's were William > Bullough and Mary Makin Sale, Could Jane be one of your Bullough's I will > try and send you a copy of the certificate later. > Cheers TOM > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John B. Davies" <bernie.pat.davies@sympatico.ca> > To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:15 PM > Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] [(ENG-LEIGH)] JEMIMA BULLOUGH(BULLOW) > > > > > > Hello List, > > > > Does any one have access to non-conformist church records in the Leigh > area? > > I am trying to find the baptism record for my gggrandmother, JEMIMA > > BULLOUGH, she was born around 1813. I have not been able to find her > baptism > > in the parish records. > > > > She married my gggrandfather, JAMES GREEN, in 1833 at Leigh Parish. Her > > first child was baptized at Chow Bent Chapel, Atherton, in 1832. Jemima > was > > buried at Daisy Hill Primitive Methodist Chapel in 1855. So she seems to > > have been a Methodist. > > > > The Methodist church records seem harder to get hold of than the CofE, > would > > appreciate any ideas or help. > > > > Thanks > > > > Pat > > In Ottawa > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & > Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, > Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our > list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute > regularly. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Dave As a Mancunian, living amongst Boltonians for the last 25 years, may I ask what is a "lobby"? Also why can I not access www.LQQK.com Is it reserved for Leighites? Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: <Leighite@aol.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:03 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-D Digest V03 #128 > Paul, > > I would urge you to visit www.LQQK.com and maybe even donate your father's > school photo. > > BTW, don't you know that a pie is only lobby with a crust around it? > > DAVE > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Pauline - Not too sure: I wasn't altogether overjoyed at the Lowton Sparrow. I've never lived there - but visited on three occasions - my Father was from there - came to NZ 1911 as a teenager - never got dust in his eyes - and as I am scratching around and the info I want seems always behind me, perhaps I do qualify for the title! Gavin Yates (Yates,Bolton,Adamson in Lowton, please) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline Kirschner" <quercus2@bigpond.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:20 AM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Identity Crisis!!!! > Hi Gavin > > Do you 'earn' these nick-names *only* if you live there? I was born in > Lowton St. Mary's, but never lived there. It would be nice if I could say I > was a 'Lowtonian' or whatever, rather than a Mancunian - not that there's > anything wrong with being a Mancunian, but it's rather generalised. A > Lowtonian keeps people guessing - especially over here! > > Cheers > Pauline K in Oz > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gavinyates" <gavinyates@xtra.co.nz> > To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:25 AM > Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] > Identity Crisis!!!! > > > > And those from Lowton are - what????? > > > > Gavin Yates (after Lowton Yates, Bolton, Adamson) > > > > Original > > Message ----- > > From: "Virgo The Virgin-scales" <virgolibrian@hotmail.com> > > To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 1:40 AM > > Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Identity > > Crisis!!!! > > > > > > > everyone's at it so i'll have a go!! > > > > > > us lot from newton-le-willows have been called "woolly-backs" amongest > > > others!!!! > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > Ian. > > > > > > > > > >From: Dave Redden <dredden@brockmcvey.com> > > > >Reply-To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > >To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Identity Crisis!!!! > > > >Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:00:48 -0400 > > > > > > > >Jim, > > > > > > > >That would make her a Leyther, more specifically a Westleyther. > > > > > > > >A quick guide: > > > > > > > >Person born in: > > > >LEIGH = Leyther > > > >WESTHOUGHTON = Cowyed > > > >WIGAN = Pie-eater (among other words that cannot be printed on a family > > > >mailing list) > > > >ATHERTON = Benter (Can someone confirm this?) > > > >TYLDESLEY = Bonger (and this?) > > > > > > > >My Dad was born in Piercebridge, just outside of Darlington in the NE > of > > > >England and he was a Geordie. > > > > > > > >DAVE > > > > > > > > > > > >==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > > > >Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. 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Peter, my mistake - I'm that used to typing .com for a URL that I did it for LQQK. The real address is www.LQQK.co.uk Sorry everyone. Lobby is very similar to an Irish Stew. Originally it was created from left over vegetables and cooked with a meat (usually lamb) to create a broth/stew. Very tasty. Wiganers take meat and potatoes out of the broth, wrap them in pastry and call it a pie. (hehe) I guess we need to stop bashing Wiganers - that's not what we created the list for even if it is a very valid reason. DAVE

Thanks Ian.........and to David for his follow up. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Virgo The Virgin-scales [mailto:virgolibrian@hotmail.com] Sent: 09 July 2003 08:40 To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re. Hi Wigan A-Z: Warrington Rd (A574)/Jennet's Lane at the end of this lane is Hawk Hurst Bridge a track leads to Hawk Hurst Farm then Bridge House and then Neatherbarrow Farm the track continues to Kay House/Turf Nest Farm and Moss Lane. Ian. >From: "David Wilkinson" <david@nrdav.freeserve.co.uk> >Reply-To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re. Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:37:41 >+0100 > >Hi Dennis > >Hawkhurst was about half a mile east of Lately Common, just by the junction >of the Pennington Brook, the Bedford Brook and the Moss Brook (where the >three streams join up to form the Glaze Brook). Lately Common is the >present >intersection of the A580 East Lancs Road and the A574 Leigh-Warrington >Road. >There is a farm marked as Hawkhurst Farm on the current Landranger OS map >at >grid reference SJ 681 983 but on the 1845 map that farm is named Nether >Barrow and Hawkhurst is shown a little further west, at the point where the >modern map has an unnamed building at SJ 675 982. > >Hope that helps > >David in Hertford, England > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dennis Pickering" <Dennis@pickering26.freeserve.co.uk> >To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:00 PM >Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re. > > > > Dear all, > > One of my wider family ancestors died at "Hawkhurst, Bedford" in 1842. > > Does anyone have any information on Hawkhurst.... was it a farm or > > (perhaps) a hospital (the person died of consumption), or just a house. > > I don't seem to be able to find it on any censuses. > > Thanks, > > Dennis > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & >Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, >Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join >our >list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute >regularly. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, >go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > >==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== >Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & >Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, >Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join >our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute >regularly. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Paul, I would urge you to visit www.LQQK.com and maybe even donate your father's school photo. BTW, don't you know that a pie is only lobby with a crust around it? DAVE

In a message dated 7/8/03 7:46:25 PM Central Daylight Time, ENG-LAN-LEIGH-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Pie-eaters (Wigan folk) -- got to say that our Belgian friend always makes > a > beeline for the wonderful meat &potato pies made in Wigan. > I can say first hand that my grandmother was from Westhoughton and my grandfather from Leigh, They moved around from Leigh, Wigan, to Westleigh and from experience, I enjoyed the best meat and potato pie granny ever made. I still make it myself today here in Iowa, USA. Nothing like it! I have my dads gradeschool picture taken in 1908 in Wigan. He was born at Lowton St. Mary. Paul Fletcher Researching FLETCHER, HODKINSON, HACKING, LAWTON

Hi Dennis Since my original reply I have rechecked on a more recent printing of the Landtanger map. The name of the farm at grid reference SJ 681 983 has now been corrected to Netherbarrow but the one at SJ 675 982 which I know from the 1845 map to be Hawkhurst is still unnamed. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Pickering" <Dennis@pickering26.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:00 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re. > Dear all, > One of my wider family ancestors died at "Hawkhurst, Bedford" in 1842. > Does anyone have any information on Hawkhurst.... was it a farm or > (perhaps) a hospital (the person died of consumption), or just a house. > I don't seem to be able to find it on any censuses. > Thanks, > Dennis >

And those from Lowton are - what????? Gavin Yates (after Lowton Yates, Bolton, Adamson) Original Message ----- From: "Virgo The Virgin-scales" <virgolibrian@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 1:40 AM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Identity Crisis!!!! > everyone's at it so i'll have a go!! > > us lot from newton-le-willows have been called "woolly-backs" amongest > others!!!! > > LOL! > > Ian. > > > >From: Dave Redden <dredden@brockmcvey.com> > >Reply-To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com > >To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Identity Crisis!!!! > >Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:00:48 -0400 > > > >Jim, > > > >That would make her a Leyther, more specifically a Westleyther. > > > >A quick guide: > > > >Person born in: > >LEIGH = Leyther > >WESTHOUGHTON = Cowyed > >WIGAN = Pie-eater (among other words that cannot be printed on a family > >mailing list) > >ATHERTON = Benter (Can someone confirm this?) > >TYLDESLEY = Bonger (and this?) > > > >My Dad was born in Piercebridge, just outside of Darlington in the NE of > >England and he was a Geordie. > > > >DAVE > > > > > >==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > >Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & > >Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, > >Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join > >our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute > >regularly. > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.490 / Virus Database: 289 - Release Date: 6/16/03

Hi Gavin Do you 'earn' these nick-names *only* if you live there? I was born in Lowton St. Mary's, but never lived there. It would be nice if I could say I was a 'Lowtonian' or whatever, rather than a Mancunian - not that there's anything wrong with being a Mancunian, but it's rather generalised. A Lowtonian keeps people guessing - especially over here! Cheers Pauline K in Oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "gavinyates" <gavinyates@xtra.co.nz> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:25 AM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Identity Crisis!!!! > And those from Lowton are - what????? > > Gavin Yates (after Lowton Yates, Bolton, Adamson) > > Original > Message ----- > From: "Virgo The Virgin-scales" <virgolibrian@hotmail.com> > To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 1:40 AM > Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Identity > Crisis!!!! > > > > everyone's at it so i'll have a go!! > > > > us lot from newton-le-willows have been called "woolly-backs" amongest > > others!!!! > > > > LOL! > > > > Ian. > > > > > > >From: Dave Redden <dredden@brockmcvey.com> > > >Reply-To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Identity Crisis!!!! > > >Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:00:48 -0400 > > > > > >Jim, > > > > > >That would make her a Leyther, more specifically a Westleyther. > > > > > >A quick guide: > > > > > >Person born in: > > >LEIGH = Leyther > > >WESTHOUGHTON = Cowyed > > >WIGAN = Pie-eater (among other words that cannot be printed on a family > > >mailing list) > > >ATHERTON = Benter (Can someone confirm this?) > > >TYLDESLEY = Bonger (and this?) > > > > > >My Dad was born in Piercebridge, just outside of Darlington in the NE of > > >England and he was a Geordie. > > > > > >DAVE > > > > > > > > >==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > > >Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & > > >Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, > > >Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join > > >our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute > > >regularly. > > > > > >============================== > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > > >go to: > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! > > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & > Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, > Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our > list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute > regularly. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.490 / Virus Database: 289 - Release Date: 6/16/03 > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.490 / Virus Database: 289 - Release Date: 16/06/03

Hi Wigan A-Z: Warrington Rd (A574)/Jennet's Lane at the end of this lane is Hawk Hurst Bridge a track leads to Hawk Hurst Farm then Bridge House and then Neatherbarrow Farm the track continues to Kay House/Turf Nest Farm and Moss Lane. Ian. >From: "David Wilkinson" <david@nrdav.freeserve.co.uk> >Reply-To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re. Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:37:41 >+0100 > >Hi Dennis > >Hawkhurst was about half a mile east of Lately Common, just by the junction >of the Pennington Brook, the Bedford Brook and the Moss Brook (where the >three streams join up to form the Glaze Brook). Lately Common is the >present >intersection of the A580 East Lancs Road and the A574 Leigh-Warrington >Road. >There is a farm marked as Hawkhurst Farm on the current Landranger OS map >at >grid reference SJ 681 983 but on the 1845 map that farm is named Nether >Barrow and Hawkhurst is shown a little further west, at the point where the >modern map has an unnamed building at SJ 675 982. > >Hope that helps > >David in Hertford, England > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dennis Pickering" <Dennis@pickering26.freeserve.co.uk> >To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:00 PM >Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re. > > > > Dear all, > > One of my wider family ancestors died at "Hawkhurst, Bedford" in 1842. > > Does anyone have any information on Hawkhurst.... was it a farm or > > (perhaps) a hospital (the person died of consumption), or just a house. > > I don't seem to be able to find it on any censuses. > > Thanks, > > Dennis > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & >Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, >Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join >our >list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute >regularly. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, >go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > >==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== >Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & >Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, >Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join >our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute >regularly. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

I have been told they are Lowton Sparrows (They fly backwards to keep the wind out of their eyes!) Pamela ----- Original Message ----- From: "gavinyates" <gavinyates@xtra.co.nz> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:25 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Identity Crisis!!!! > And those from Lowton are - what????? > > Gavin Yates (after Lowton Yates, Bolton, Adamson) > > Original > Message ----- > From: "Virgo The Virgin-scales" <virgolibrian@hotmail.com> > To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 1:40 AM > Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Identity > Crisis!!!! > > > > everyone's at it so i'll have a go!! > > > > us lot from newton-le-willows have been called "woolly-backs" amongest > > others!!!! > > > > LOL! > > > > Ian. > > > > > > >From: Dave Redden <dredden@brockmcvey.com> > > >Reply-To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Identity Crisis!!!! > > >Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:00:48 -0400 > > > > > >Jim, > > > > > >That would make her a Leyther, more specifically a Westleyther. > > > > > >A quick guide: > > > > > >Person born in: > > >LEIGH = Leyther > > >WESTHOUGHTON = Cowyed > > >WIGAN = Pie-eater (among other words that cannot be printed on a family > > >mailing list) > > >ATHERTON = Benter (Can someone confirm this?) > > >TYLDESLEY = Bonger (and this?) > > > > > >My Dad was born in Piercebridge, just outside of Darlington in the NE of > > >England and he was a Geordie. > > > > > >DAVE > > > > > > > > >==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > > >Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & > > >Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, > > >Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join > > >our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute > > >regularly. > > > > > >============================== > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > > >go to: > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! > > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & > Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, > Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our > list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute > regularly. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.490 / Virus Database: 289 - Release Date: 6/16/03 > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

David, Many thanks! Dennis -----Original Message----- From: David Wilkinson [mailto:david@nrdav.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: 08 July 2003 22:38 To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re. Hi Dennis Hawkhurst was about half a mile east of Lately Common, just by the junction of the Pennington Brook, the Bedford Brook and the Moss Brook (where the three streams join up to form the Glaze Brook). Lately Common is the present intersection of the A580 East Lancs Road and the A574 Leigh-Warrington Road. There is a farm marked as Hawkhurst Farm on the current Landranger OS map at grid reference SJ 681 983 but on the 1845 map that farm is named Nether Barrow and Hawkhurst is shown a little further west, at the point where the modern map has an unnamed building at SJ 675 982. Hope that helps David in Hertford, England ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Pickering" <Dennis@pickering26.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:00 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re. > Dear all, > One of my wider family ancestors died at "Hawkhurst, Bedford" in 1842. > Does anyone have any information on Hawkhurst.... was it a farm or > (perhaps) a hospital (the person died of consumption), or just a house. > I don't seem to be able to find it on any censuses. > Thanks, > Dennis > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Dennis Hawkhurst was about half a mile east of Lately Common, just by the junction of the Pennington Brook, the Bedford Brook and the Moss Brook (where the three streams join up to form the Glaze Brook). Lately Common is the present intersection of the A580 East Lancs Road and the A574 Leigh-Warrington Road. There is a farm marked as Hawkhurst Farm on the current Landranger OS map at grid reference SJ 681 983 but on the 1845 map that farm is named Nether Barrow and Hawkhurst is shown a little further west, at the point where the modern map has an unnamed building at SJ 675 982. Hope that helps David in Hertford, England ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Pickering" <Dennis@pickering26.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:00 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re. > Dear all, > One of my wider family ancestors died at "Hawkhurst, Bedford" in 1842. > Does anyone have any information on Hawkhurst.... was it a farm or > (perhaps) a hospital (the person died of consumption), or just a house. > I don't seem to be able to find it on any censuses. > Thanks, > Dennis > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Dear all, One of my wider family ancestors died at "Hawkhurst, Bedford" in 1842. Does anyone have any information on Hawkhurst.... was it a farm or (perhaps) a hospital (the person died of consumption), or just a house. I don't seem to be able to find it on any censuses. Thanks, Dennis

Dear PAT My Wifes family were Chowbent Chapeler's and I have a Marriage Certificate dated 1874 of a Jane Bullough who married my Wife's Ggrandfather Thomas Sale who was a Bolt maker his fathers name was William Sale (DECEASED) Iron Moulder, Janes Father was James Bullough Master Painter They were Married at St, James's Church Atherton ByCertificateThe whitness's were William Bullough and Mary Makin Sale, Could Jane be one of your Bullough's I will try and send you a copy of the certificate later. Cheers TOM ----- Original Message ----- From: "John B. Davies" <bernie.pat.davies@sympatico.ca> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:15 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] [(ENG-LEIGH)] JEMIMA BULLOUGH(BULLOW) > > Hello List, > > Does any one have access to non-conformist church records in the Leigh area? > I am trying to find the baptism record for my gggrandmother, JEMIMA > BULLOUGH, she was born around 1813. I have not been able to find her baptism > in the parish records. > > She married my gggrandfather, JAMES GREEN, in 1833 at Leigh Parish. Her > first child was baptized at Chow Bent Chapel, Atherton, in 1832. Jemima was > buried at Daisy Hill Primitive Methodist Chapel in 1855. So she seems to > have been a Methodist. > > The Methodist church records seem harder to get hold of than the CofE, would > appreciate any ideas or help. > > Thanks > > Pat > In Ottawa > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

That's a great response, David, and in double quick time, too. We have a great group of people in our membership. For those interested in the Bolton and Newton-le-Willows areas I believe that there will soon be new lists for those areas as I have been petitioned for directions in how to set up those lists. Watch this space as we will be advertising their opening. DAVE