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    1. [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Tyldesley cemetery searchable database.
    2. Keith Openshaw
    3. The name Part may have easily been transcribed as Parr and these are the ones I've got listed at Tyldesley cemetery. Entry No, Name, Description, Age, Place of Death, Burial Date, Grave 381, Peter Parr, child of Eliza Parr, 3 wks, 11 Castle St Tyldesley, 03 November 1883, J 614 1058, James Parr, Joiner, 51 yrs, 35 Manchester Rd Tyldesley, 05 May 1888, D 20 2631, James Parr, son of Margaret Parr, 17 yrs, 35 Manchester Rd Tyldesley, 07 December 1895, D 20 3469, Alice Parr, Widow, 78 yrs, 46 ManchesterRd Tyldesley, 11 August 1899, H 19 4082, Jennie Mayfield Ely Parr, child of Robert & Sarah, 3 yrs, 81 Castle St Tyldesley, 05 December 1901, G h 528 6838, Percy Ely Parr, Motor mechaic, 29 yrs, Royal Infirmary Manchester, 19 May 1913, G n 514 I also have a list of burials at St Stephen's church in Astley and there are a few Part's listed, if the entry has a grave reference it also has a headstone, usually a Ledger type, I can get you a photograph or inscription listing if you want. Name, Abode, Burial Date, Age, Grave James Part, Astley, 03 January 1859, 64, C12 Martha Part, Manchester, 29 November 1865, 60, L9 Samuel Part, Astley, 27 March 1869, 73, C11 Hannah Part, 61 Wellington Road Heaton Morris, 30 September 1869, 71 yrs, L8 Fanny Part, Astley, 21 April 1870, 6 months Martha Part, Astley, 04 July 1872, 73, C11 Albert Ernest Part, Astley, 05 July 1873, I Thomas Part, 4 Wilton Street Chorlton on Medlock, 04 September 1873, yrs 71, L9 Samuel Part, Astley, 09 November 1874, five months Mary Part, Astley, 29 July 1882, 42 yrs, Q16 Name, Abode, Burial date, Age, Grave Rachel Parr, Astley, 16 October 1848, years 19 Catherine Parr, Westleigh, 21 June 1846, 64 Charles Parr, Westleigh, 24 March 1843, 68 yrs Louisa Parrr, Astley, 29 November 1848, 2 years Martha Part, Westleigh, 20 November 1855 Mary Part, Astley, 02 February 1849, years 79, C12 Thomas Part, Astley, 31 May 1843, 75 yrs, C12 If you require earlier burials at ASt Stephen's for the Part/Parr family let me know. As always please cross check any information I pass on to you and inform me of any errors you find so that I may correct them. Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "lynne noone" <lynnenoone@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 10:54 AM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Tyldesley cemetery searchable database. > Hello Keith. > Thanks for your kind look up offer. > I am interested in any member of the PART family, any date. > Cheers > Lynne > > > Lynne Noone > Near Ballarat, Victoria, Australia > > THERE ARE NO ATTACHMENTS WITH THIS EMAIL > > >From: "Keith Openshaw" <ko001b4578@blueyonder.co.uk> > >Reply-To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com > >To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Tyldesley cemetery searchable database. > >Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 07:41:41 +0100 > > > >I am in the process of setting up a searchable database for Tyldesley > >cemetery burials, if you know or think you may have family buried here > >send me the details and I will gladly check for you. At present the > >database only goes up to the end of 1918, however it is growing daily and > >should be up to 1950 by Christmas 2003. > > > > > >Keith > > _________________________________________________________________ > ninemsn Extra Storage is now available. No account expiration - no need to > worry about losing your Hotmail account. Click here http://join.msn.com/ > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    08/08/2003 05:50:55
    1. [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Tyldesley cemetery searchable database.
    2. Keith Openshaw
    3. Sorry can not find the three persons you listed as buried in Tyldesley cemetery. The Pemberton's I have got listed are as follows: Entry No, Name, Description, Age, Place of Death, Burial Date, Grave 1237, Elizabeth Pemberton, child of William & Sarah Pemberton, 4 yrs, 35 Primrose St Tyldesley, 03 June 1889, B 65 1456, William Pemberton, Labourer, 30 yrs, 35 Primrose St. Tyldesley, 14 August 1890, B 65 3360, Henry Pemberton, child of James & Susannah Pemberton, 4 hrs, 18 Johnson St. Tyldesley, 24 March 1899, J 526 3586, Edmund Pemberton, Reporter, 27 yrs, 37 Shakerley Rd. Tyldesley, 06 January 1900, G n 528 3950, James Pemberton, child of John & Betsy Ellen, 2 yrs, The Sanitorium Tyldesley, 20 June 1901, P 170 5125, James Pemberton, child of William & Catherine, 5 mths, 11 Ash St Tyldesley, 22 June 1906, G 404 5637, James Ambrose Pemberton, Labourer, 29 yrs, 18 Johnson St Tyldesley, 25 May 1908, R 245 7367, Helen Pemberton, wife of James, 35 yrs, 295 Manchester Rd Tyldesley, 09 June 1915, G 514 7407, Hugh Pemberton, Cotton operative, 13 yrs, Bridgwater canal Astley, 06 July 1915, R 245 7530, Ellen Pemberton, child of Robert & Ellen, 2 days, 132 Ellesmere St Tyldesley, 26 January 1916, J 217 7580, Sarah Pemberton, wife of Hugh, 70 yrs, 18 Johnson St Tyldesley, 25 April 1916, R 245 I cannot find any Higgott's or any name which may have been transcribed wrongly. As always please cross check any information I pass on to you and inform me if you find any errors. If you require the details of who else is buried in any grave let me know, likewise if you would like me to check any grave for a headstone, I live close to the cemetery and I will forward photographs if there are headstones. Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Ruthven" <gillian.ruthven@paradise.net.nz> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:21 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Tyldesley cemetery searchable database. > Hello Keith > > Thank you for the kind offer. I have 3 I am interested in: > > John PEMBERTON died Q2 1898 > > Mary Ann PEMBERTON d. Q1 1909 > > Thomas John HIGGOTT died possibly around 1902. This is the one I am > really interested in. > > > Thank you very much > > Jill Ruthven > > > Jill Ruthven > > (Researching MALING, HARTLEY (DUR) > PEMBERTON, CATTERALL, HIGGOTT (LAN) > MALTBY, WHITING, STONES (LIN) > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    08/08/2003 05:34:03
    1. [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Tyldesley cemetery searchable database.
    2. lynne noone
    3. Hello Keith. Thanks for your kind look up offer. I am interested in any member of the PART family, any date. Cheers Lynne Lynne Noone Near Ballarat, Victoria, Australia THERE ARE NO ATTACHMENTS WITH THIS EMAIL >From: "Keith Openshaw" <ko001b4578@blueyonder.co.uk> >Reply-To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Tyldesley cemetery searchable database. >Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 07:41:41 +0100 > >I am in the process of setting up a searchable database for Tyldesley >cemetery burials, if you know or think you may have family buried here >send me the details and I will gladly check for you. At present the >database only goes up to the end of 1918, however it is growing daily and >should be up to 1950 by Christmas 2003. > > >Keith _________________________________________________________________ ninemsn Extra Storage is now available. No account expiration - no need to worry about losing your Hotmail account. Click here http://join.msn.com/

    08/08/2003 03:54:52
    1. [(ENG-LEIGH)] Tyldesley cemetery searchable database.
    2. Keith Openshaw
    3. I am in the process of setting up a searchable database for Tyldesley cemetery burials, if you know or think you may have family buried here send me the details and I will gladly check for you. At present the database only goes up to the end of 1918, however it is growing daily and should be up to 1950 by Christmas 2003. Keith

    08/08/2003 01:41:41
    1. [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Tyldesley cemetery searchable database.
    2. Jill Ruthven
    3. Hi Keith Thank you very much - what you have sent is very useful for my Pemberton research. The whereabouts after 1894 of Thomas Higgott is a complete & utter mystery so finding a grave in the village/town he had lived in was a hopeful longshot. I'll get back to you if i need any more information - but I think this will keep me busy for a little while. Jill At 11:34 8/08/03 +0100, you wrote: >Sorry can not find the three persons you listed as buried in Tyldesley >cemetery. The Pemberton's I have got listed are as follows: > >Entry No, Name, Description, Age, Place of Death, Burial Date, Grave >1237, Elizabeth Pemberton, child of William & Sarah Pemberton, 4 yrs, 35 >Primrose St Tyldesley, 03 June 1889, B 65 >1456, William Pemberton, Labourer, 30 yrs, 35 Primrose St. Tyldesley, 14 >August 1890, B 65 >3360, Henry Pemberton, child of James & Susannah Pemberton, 4 hrs, 18 >Johnson St. Tyldesley, 24 March 1899, J 526 >3586, Edmund Pemberton, Reporter, 27 yrs, 37 Shakerley Rd. Tyldesley, 06 >January 1900, G n 528 >3950, James Pemberton, child of John & Betsy Ellen, 2 yrs, The Sanitorium >Tyldesley, 20 June 1901, P 170 >5125, James Pemberton, child of William & Catherine, 5 mths, 11 Ash St >Tyldesley, 22 June 1906, G 404 >5637, James Ambrose Pemberton, Labourer, 29 yrs, 18 Johnson St Tyldesley, 25 >May 1908, R 245 >7367, Helen Pemberton, wife of James, 35 yrs, 295 Manchester Rd Tyldesley, >09 June 1915, G 514 >7407, Hugh Pemberton, Cotton operative, 13 yrs, Bridgwater canal Astley, 06 >July 1915, R 245 >7530, Ellen Pemberton, child of Robert & Ellen, 2 days, 132 Ellesmere St >Tyldesley, 26 January 1916, J 217 >7580, Sarah Pemberton, wife of Hugh, 70 yrs, 18 Johnson St Tyldesley, 25 >April 1916, R 245 > >I cannot find any Higgott's or any name which may have been transcribed >wrongly. > >As always please cross check any information I pass on to you and inform me >if you find any errors. > >If you require the details of who else is buried in any grave let me know, >likewise if you would like me to check any grave for a headstone, I live >close to the cemetery and I will forward photographs if there are >headstones. > > >Keith > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jill Ruthven" <gillian.ruthven@paradise.net.nz> >To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:21 PM >Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Tyldesley cemetery searchable >database. > > > > Hello Keith > > > > Thank you for the kind offer. I have 3 I am interested in: > > > > John PEMBERTON died Q2 1898 > > > > Mary Ann PEMBERTON d. Q1 1909 > > > > Thomas John HIGGOTT died possibly around 1902. This is the one I am > > really interested in. > > > > > > Thank you very much > > > > Jill Ruthven > > > > > > Jill Ruthven > > > > (Researching MALING, HARTLEY (DUR) > > PEMBERTON, CATTERALL, HIGGOTT (LAN) > > MALTBY, WHITING, STONES (LIN) > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & >Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, >Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our >list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute >regularly. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > >==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== >Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & >Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, >Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join >our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute >regularly. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 Jill Ruthven (Researching MALING, HARTLEY (DUR) PEMBERTON, CATTERALL, (LAN) MALTBY, WHITING, STONES (LIN)

    08/07/2003 04:57:13
    1. [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Tyldesley cemetery searchable database.
    2. Jill Ruthven
    3. Hello Keith Thank you for the kind offer. I have 3 I am interested in: John PEMBERTON died Q2 1898 Mary Ann PEMBERTON d. Q1 1909 Thomas John HIGGOTT died possibly around 1902. This is the one I am really interested in. Thank you very much Jill Ruthven Jill Ruthven (Researching MALING, HARTLEY (DUR) PEMBERTON, CATTERALL, HIGGOTT (LAN) MALTBY, WHITING, STONES (LIN)

    08/07/2003 01:21:21
    1. [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Mcgoff/Eccleston
    2. Pamela Simmons
    3. Hi So pleased you are getting further with your research I wonder if Roberts friend was Alfred ATHERTON quite a common name around here And the Street is GLEBE Street -It still exists Pamela ----- Original Message ----- From: <MM4COMPUT@aol.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 3:18 AM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Mcgoff/Eccleston Hello Valerie, Pamela and all interested listers, Thanks again for all the info and joy you have brought to my entire family, we cant get enough of it. I made a mistake about Ben Mcmaster, although there is a Ben Mcmaster, in his 80,s that still lives in Leigh, He is not the son of Robert & Ann Mcmaster of the 1880s. I beleive he is the son of one of Roberts kids. I will get my father to give him a call. I thought you might like be interested in what I know. Robert Mcmaster, son of Robert Mcmaster Sr. and James Eccleston, son of Isaac Eccleston, both of Leigh, boarded the S.S. Leutonic in Liverpool on July 19th 1905. They arrived in New York harbor on July 27th 1905, with $70.00 between them, heading for Indiana. Robert was 34 and married, James 29 and single. No sign of Edith Eccleston, Roberts wife or their 3 young children Robert, Agnes and Fanny Mcmaster born 28 Mar 1902 in Leigh.( Fanny Mcmaster Mcgoff is my grandmother) Above from: <A HREF="www.ellisisland.org">www.ellisisland.org</A> On the 1910 U.S. Census, we find the whole family living in Dugger Indiana, Robert 40, Edith 36, their children Robert 17, Agnes 14, Fanny 9, and James 2. Also living with them is James Eccleson, Edith's brother. Both Robert and James were coal miners, as they were in England. In 1912 Robert Mcmaster and his son Robert, along with James Eccleston and his wife Jane Eccleston returned from Liverpool on the Lusitania on 18-May-1912. Not sure why they returned home at this time. Robert was visiting, friend Alfred Atherta?, who lived at 164 or 167 Globe St., Leigh. James Eccleston was visiting his brother Henry Eccleston, also of Globe St. I have no info on James' wife Jane Eccleston, yet. <A HREF="www.ellisisland.org">www.ellisisland.org</A> The 1920 U.S. Census shows Robert Sr. and his son Robert living as boarders with another family in Dugger Indiana, still working as coal miners. I am told by my father that James, 2years old in 1910 dies at an early age and I believe Edith also died around this time. Still not sure where Agnes and Fanny Mcmaster or James Eccleston were at this point in time. Fanny Mcmaster marries my grandfather Leo F. Mcgoff in 1923, and on the 1930 U.S. Census, Fanny Mcmaster Mcgoff 29, her daughters Edith H. 7, Louise 5, Catherine P (Pat) 3 and her only son Leo F. Mcgoff Jr. (my father) born 16-Feb-1930, were all living with Leo F, Mcgoff Sr.,in New Bedford Mass. Fanny's father Robert, sister Agnes, and brother Robert also live with them at 399 Cedar Grove, New Bedford Mass. There is more, but I'm sure have put most of you to sleep.I'If not you must be a dedicated genealogist or a relative. If there is anyone out there related to the Mcmaster or Eccleston family members that remained in England, I would love to hear from you. Thanks Mark & Janet Mcgoff ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    08/04/2003 02:17:16
    1. [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Mcgoff/Eccleston
    2. Hello, Mark & Janet, I think we should toast the Leigh List with an electronic glass of champagne, don't you! I will be further in touch offlist, as more family details have recently come to light. Cheers, Valerie > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    08/04/2003 03:53:28
    1. [(ENG-LEIGH)] WHEATLEIGH ANCESTERY
    2. Ray Lyons
    3. I'm looking for my GGfather. Name- Max, WHEATLEIGH hus. of Marion, BOLDEN or BOULDEN School teacher in late 1800's. Cheers, Ray M. Lyons Esq. -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze

    08/04/2003 02:29:31
    1. [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] will do 1891 census lookups
    2. Ann
    3. Hi, If you send me the names that you want to have a chance to look for I will see what I can find for you. If you give the information exactly as it was found in the 1881 census, I have a better chance of success. cheer,s Ann M Sonia Hamilton wrote: > Hi Anne, when you say this is a sort of name index, would you find whole > families together in this census? Or just the individual person? Thank > you for your time. Sonia Hamilton Canada > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <becket@ihug.com.au> > To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 5:51 PM > Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] will do 1891 > census lookups > > > Hi, Its sort of a name index. If you give me as many details fromt he 1881 > census as possible, I will do my > > best, > > cheers, Ann02-Aug-03 9:16:42 PM, "Valerie @ ntlworld.com" > <v.lirakis@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > > > >Hi, Ann > > > > > >I think I know the answer to this one already, but I will ask it anyway. > > >Have you got a name index to the 1891? I have 'lost' a relative who was > not > > >at the family home when the census was taken, and have been unable to > find > > >her. > > > > > >Valerie > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > > >> Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh > & > > >Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, > > >Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join > our > > >list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute > > >regularly. > > >> > > >> ============================== > > >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > >go to: > > >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > > >Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & > Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, > > Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and > Glazebury. Make sure your family members > > join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please > contribute regularly. > > > > > >============================== > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & > Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, > Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our > list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute > regularly. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    08/03/2003 04:59:18
    1. [(ENG-LEIGH)] Mcgoff/Eccleston
    2. Hello Valerie, Pamela and all interested listers,     Thanks again for all the info and joy you have brought to my entire family, we cant get enough of it. I made a mistake about Ben Mcmaster, although there is a Ben Mcmaster, in his 80,s that still lives in Leigh, He is not the son of  Robert & Ann Mcmaster of the 1880s. I beleive he is the son of one of Roberts kids. I will get my father to give him a call.     I thought you might like be interested in what I know. Robert Mcmaster, son of Robert Mcmaster Sr. and James Eccleston, son of Isaac Eccleston, both of Leigh, boarded the S.S. Leutonic in Liverpool on July 19th 1905. They arrived in New York harbor on July 27th 1905, with $70.00 between them, heading for Indiana. Robert was 34 and married, James 29 and single. No sign of Edith Eccleston, Roberts wife or their 3 young children Robert, Agnes and Fanny Mcmaster born 28 Mar 1902 in Leigh.( Fanny Mcmaster Mcgoff is my grandmother) Above from: <A HREF="www.ellisisland.org">www.ellisisland.org</A>      On the 1910 U.S. Census, we find the whole family living in Dugger Indiana, Robert 40, Edith 36, their children Robert 17, Agnes 14, Fanny 9, and James 2. Also living with them is James Eccleson, Edith's brother. Both Robert and James were coal miners, as they were in England. In 1912 Robert Mcmaster and his son Robert, along with James Eccleston and his wife Jane Eccleston returned from Liverpool on the Lusitania on 18-May-1912. Not sure why they returned home at this time. Robert was visiting, friend Alfred Atherta?, who lived at 164 or 167 Globe St., Leigh. James Eccleston was visiting his brother Henry Eccleston, also of Globe St. I have no info on James' wife Jane Eccleston, yet. <A HREF="www.ellisisland.org">www.ellisisland.org</A>    The 1920 U.S. Census shows Robert Sr. and his son Robert living as boarders with another family in Dugger Indiana, still working as coal miners. I am told by my father that James, 2years old in 1910 dies at an early age and I believe Edith also died around this time. Still not sure where Agnes and Fanny Mcmaster or James Eccleston were at this point in time. Fanny Mcmaster marries my grandfather Leo F. Mcgoff in 1923, and on the 1930 U.S. Census, Fanny Mcmaster Mcgoff 29, her daughters Edith H. 7, Louise 5, Catherine P (Pat) 3 and her only son Leo F. Mcgoff Jr. (my father) born 16-Feb-1930, were all living with Leo F, Mcgoff Sr.,in New Bedford Mass. Fanny's father Robert, sister Agnes, and brother Robert also live with them at 399 Cedar Grove, New Bedford Mass. There is more, but I'm sure have put most of you to sleep.I'If not you must be a dedicated genealogist or a relative. If there is anyone out there related to the Mcmaster or Eccleston family members that remained in England, I would love to hear from you. Thanks Mark & Janet Mcgoff

    08/03/2003 04:18:12
    1. [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] will do 1891 census lookups
    2. Hi. I have found a John Grundy aged 72 at the Leigh Workhouse, but it had scribbled out that he was widowed and written above that he was married. Said he was a coal carter and born in Astley Lancashire. cheers, Ann M02-Aug-03 11:29:52 PM, "louiseoliver" <louiseoliver@btopenworld.com> wrote: >Dear Ann >Thanks >I already have most of my FISHWICKs and GRUNDYs from leigh in 1891 except >John GRUNDY... >His address on his marriage cert (Leigh church 1842 to Betty GREEN) is given >as just Westleigh and his age is twenty something (illegible) and he was a >farmer >On his son's birth cert(1855), it is given as Atherton, labourer >In 1881 I found a John GRUNDY living with a family of PLATTs at 42 Bolton >New Road Atherton, aged 57 lodger. The same Mr and Mrs PLATT were witnesses >to his son's marriage. >the 1901 census has a possible matching John GRUNDY in Leigh workhouse. > >I would be v grateful for any further info esp a 1891 look up > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <becket@ihug.com.au> >To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 7:34 AM >Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] will do 1891 census lookups > > >> Hi, If anyone missed out on having an 1891 census lookup done by other >listers >> earliers, I will give it a go. I have the 1891 census for a short time. >Please give as >> much information as you can. >> cheers, Ann M >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== >> Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & >Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, >Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our >list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute >regularly. >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > > >==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== >Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

    08/03/2003 04:05:52
    1. [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] will do 1891 census lookups
    2. Sonia Hamilton
    3. Hi Anne, when you say this is a sort of name index, would you find whole families together in this census? Or just the individual person? Thank you for your time. Sonia Hamilton Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <becket@ihug.com.au> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 5:51 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] will do 1891 census lookups > Hi, Its sort of a name index. If you give me as many details fromt he 1881 census as possible, I will do my > best, > cheers, Ann02-Aug-03 9:16:42 PM, "Valerie @ ntlworld.com" <v.lirakis@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > >Hi, Ann > > > >I think I know the answer to this one already, but I will ask it anyway. > >Have you got a name index to the 1891? I have 'lost' a relative who was not > >at the family home when the census was taken, and have been unable to find > >her. > > > >Valerie > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > >> Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & > >Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, > >Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our > >list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute > >regularly. > >> > >> ============================== > >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >> > >> > > > > > >==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > >Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, > Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members > join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    08/03/2003 02:42:26
    1. [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] will do 1891 census lookups
    2. Hi, Its sort of a name index. If you give me as many details fromt he 1881 census as possible, I will do my best, cheers, Ann02-Aug-03 9:16:42 PM, "Valerie @ ntlworld.com" <v.lirakis@ntlworld.com> wrote: >Hi, Ann > >I think I know the answer to this one already, but I will ask it anyway. >Have you got a name index to the 1891? I have 'lost' a relative who was not >at the family home when the census was taken, and have been unable to find >her. > >Valerie >> >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== >> Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & >Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, >Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our >list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute >regularly. >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> > > >==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== >Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

    08/03/2003 01:51:40
    1. [(ENG-LEIGH)] will do 1891 census lookups
    2. Hi, If anyone missed out on having an 1891 census lookup done by other listers earliers, I will give it a go. I have the 1891 census for a short time. Please give as much information as you can. cheers, Ann M

    08/02/2003 10:34:18
    1. [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] will do 1891 census lookups
    2. louiseoliver
    3. Dear Ann Thanks I already have most of my FISHWICKs and GRUNDYs from leigh in 1891 except John GRUNDY... His address on his marriage cert (Leigh church 1842 to Betty GREEN) is given as just Westleigh and his age is twenty something (illegible) and he was a farmer On his son's birth cert(1855), it is given as Atherton, labourer In 1881 I found a John GRUNDY living with a family of PLATTs at 42 Bolton New Road Atherton, aged 57 lodger. The same Mr and Mrs PLATT were witnesses to his son's marriage. the 1901 census has a possible matching John GRUNDY in Leigh workhouse. I would be v grateful for any further info esp a 1891 look up ----- Original Message ----- From: <becket@ihug.com.au> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 7:34 AM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] will do 1891 census lookups > Hi, If anyone missed out on having an 1891 census lookup done by other listers > earliers, I will give it a go. I have the 1891 census for a short time. Please give as > much information as you can. > cheers, Ann M > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    08/02/2003 08:29:52
    1. [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] will do 1891 census lookups
    2. Hi, Ann I think I know the answer to this one already, but I will ask it anyway. Have you got a name index to the 1891? I have 'lost' a relative who was not at the family home when the census was taken, and have been unable to find her. Valerie > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    08/02/2003 06:16:42
    1. [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] FISH LADY @ Photos
    2. Hi All Thanks indeed to Tom, Tony and Pat, for the info on Fish Lil. I'll question Mum adn see if she remember anyone else. Good to hear from you Gill in Southport ps - Cleary not had my wits about me. Can anyone tell me the web page address with the photos of Leigh. Ive got some old school photos from around the late 1920's. Would that be of any interest?

    08/02/2003 05:20:06
    1. [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Soldiers died in the Great War
    2. Hi Just a brief note re the Soldiers - Apologies for the delay in getting back to , Lynne, Paul, Bari and May. Just trying to get papers sorted at the moment. Should be back to you next week. Cheers Gill Hamilton

    08/02/2003 01:17:37
    1. [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] LEIGH LIST -MCMASTER/ECCLESTON
    2. Dave, I did try once before to send the photo and had problems with it. The trouble is that with my software I cannot send it jpg. It seems to be incompatible with everybody elses! I think the only thing I can do is get new software. I didn't thank you for publicising the Bolton List. It's going from strength to strength and now has over 60 members. Cheers, Valerie > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    08/02/2003 12:14:24