Folks Jacqui Jackson of Atherton has taken on the job of Leigh OPC, so all we need now to complete the "Journal" trio is an OPC for Tyldesley. I should point out that I am not the organiser for the LANCS-OPC project; "The Man" is Paul Dixon originally from Blackburn & Bolton and now living in Texas. Paul confirmed there is as yet no Tyldesley OPC, and has given the OK to ask for volunteers. So - is there anyone out there prepared to take on Bongs? The old Leigh parish included Atherton, Tyldesley with Shakerley, Westleigh, Pennington, Bedford and Astley, so even with 3 OPCs at work it would be a long time before the available church and chapel registers on film could be processed, but there is no time like the present to make a start on it! Peter Wood Rotorua NZ

Hello Pat Spoken to Alan Roddy tonight but doesn't know a lot about the family history. He seems to think his Grandad, whose name he can't remember as he died before Alan was born,came over around 1926 and worked in the mines . He was born in Roscommon and Francis his son (known as Frank), was a butcher in Leigh (this was Alans father) Alan remembers his grandma had a chip shop on Kirkhall Lane in Leigh. He went to visit Ireland a couple of years back and visited his grandfathers birthplace. He said if you have any more information he would be pleased to hear it Pamela ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Sankey Family" <ANTSANK@jasper58.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 7:49 AM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Leigh 1918 Directory > Dave > > Please could you check if you have any entries for Roddy. (I am told a Francis Roddy from Roscommon because a Butcher in Leigh). > > Thanks for your generous offer > > Pat Sankey > Rochdale > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Simmons" <pamelas@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Leigh 1918 Directory > And I worked with Keith's mother and still see her. I was going to ring > her tonight to see if Francis Roddy was an ancestor of her husbands - as I > know > her husbands father was a butcher in Leigh. When I contact her I will let > you know the outcome. > Pamela > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Leighite@aol.com> > To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:22 PM > Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Leigh 1918 Directory > > > > Pat, > > > > Sorry, no Roddy is listed. > > > > Just as a sidepoint - I used to go to school with a Keith Roddy. He would > > have been born around 1965. We attended Leigh C.E. High School on Leigh > Road. > > > > DAVE > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & > Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, > Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our > list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute > regularly. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

And I worked with Keith's mother and still see her. I was going to ring her tonight to see if Francis Roddy was an ancestor of her husbands - as I know her husbands father was a butcher in Leigh. When I contact her I will let you know the outcome. Pamela ----- Original Message ----- From: <Leighite@aol.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:22 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Leigh 1918 Directory > Pat, > > Sorry, no Roddy is listed. > > Just as a sidepoint - I used to go to school with a Keith Roddy. He would > have been born around 1965. We attended Leigh C.E. High School on Leigh Road. > > DAVE > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Folks To let you know I have volunteered and been accepted to be the Atherton On-line Parish Clerk (OPC). It is early days for the Lancashire OPC scheme so there will be no output from me for a while yet. My first job will be to start extracting the Chowbent Chapel and St John the Baptist parish records so they will be accessible via GENUKI eventually. The extractions will be made from films from the LDS library and I have no idea when they will arrive - and the fact that the Rotorua LDS shuts down from next week till early February will have a braking effect to. Mind you it means I'll be able to enjoy mid-summer without feeling pressure to go and closet myself in a dark room in front of a film reader. The OPC scheme started in the West Country, and I first came across it when my Devonshire-born wife started to receive lots of info for a parish in SW Devon from an OPC who lives in Canada. So I'm hoping that my living in a timber/tourist town in a volcano caldera in the middle of the North Island of New Zealand won't be too much of a problem. For the record I am Bent born and bred (well, actually I was born in The Firs at Leigh, but that shouldn't disbar me from this list, should it now?) Regards Peter Wood Rotorua New Zealand

Pat, Sorry, no Roddy is listed. Just as a sidepoint - I used to go to school with a Keith Roddy. He would have been born around 1965. We attended Leigh C.E. High School on Leigh Road. DAVE

Dave Please could you check if you have any entries for Roddy. (I am told a Francis Roddy from Roscommon because a Butcher in Leigh). Thanks for your generous offer Pat Sankey Rochdale

Hi Gill Would be interested if you have any HACKETT's or WALL's on your photo ..... regards Bill ======================================================================== * This Mail was sent WITHOUT attachments* Bill Harrison's Genealogy Pages can be found online at http://www.harrisongenealogy.co.uk Also BMSGH Webmaster - URL = http://www.bmsgh.org The Staffordshire BMD can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk (If you live in the North/Mid Staffs area, South Cheshire area or the West Midlands and would like to help Photostating,Transcribing or Co-ordinating then please email me asap please!!) ======================================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hamiltonsearch@aol.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 9:57 AM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] St Pauls school photo c1930 > Hi There > > Ive scanned a school photo of a class of circa 10 year olds at St Pauls > School Leigh round about 1930. > > Thought it might the kind of thing that would interest this group. If so - > whats the best thing to do with it? > > Hoping to see my aunt over Xmas and she'll fill in most of the names for me. > > Gill Hamilton in Southport > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi, Dave. Would be most grateful if you could look up George Todd Robinson for me (plumber) - my grandfather. Also John Mort Hurst (farmer) - my great grandfather. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Leighite@aol.com [mailto:Leighite@aol.com] Sent: 04 December 2003 00:59 To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] 1918 Leigh Directory - Lookups Hello List, I know that this may consitute madness but...... I have recently found my copy of the 1918 Leigh commercial directory (after our move 6 months ago). Anyone requiring lookups may e-mail me. I at least need a surname to have a chance of succeeding. DAVE ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Gill, Could you send me a copy along with any info you have? I am going to rejig my Leigh, Lancashire pages in the new year and would be happy to add your photo to the pages. DAVE

Linda, We have a 50% strike rate. George Robinson & Co. (Plumbers) 72 Railway Road, Leigh No joy on John M. Hurst but farming probably wasn't considered commercial. However, there are quite a few Hursts in the directory. If you have any others feel free to ask. DAVE

Hi There Ive scanned a school photo of a class of circa 10 year olds at St Pauls School Leigh round about 1930. Thought it might the kind of thing that would interest this group. If so - whats the best thing to do with it? Hoping to see my aunt over Xmas and she'll fill in most of the names for me. Gill Hamilton in Southport

Hello List, I know that this may consitute madness but...... I have recently found my copy of the 1918 Leigh commercial directory (after our move 6 months ago). Anyone requiring lookups may e-mail me. I at least need a surname to have a chance of succeeding. DAVE

About as good as yours, Bob! Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: robert.howard403 <robert.howard403@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:31 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] - Calland > Thanks Valerie, I feel sure that may help me to be able to move back in time > David's letter spoke of Latin, how's your Latin? Bob. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & > Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, > Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our > list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > . > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks Valerie, I feel sure that may help me to be able to move back in time David's letter spoke of Latin, how's your Latin? Bob. -------Original Message------- From: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com Date: 01 December 2003 12:11:16 To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] - Calland Bob, I will check the burials for Betty d. of Thomas Calland of Halliwell 24 Apr 1740 in Bolton Archives. Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: David Wilkinson <david@nrdav.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:55 AM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Elusive Ancestors > Hi Bob > > There are definitely two marriages of Thomas Calland at St Mary, Deane. They > are, as you say, to Elizabeth Seddon on 7 Oct 1731 and to Alice Mitchel > (sic) of Bolton on 5 Nov 1740. The second one does not say that either was a > widow(er). There could, of course, be more than one Thomas Calland. > > There is no baptism for Thomas Calland at Deane (up to 1750) although there > are several other Calland baptisms which I list: > > Early entries in Latin: > > Alicia fa. Johannis Calland de Heaton 13 Mar 1714 > Rachel fa. Johanis Calland de Halliwell 27 Mar 1724 > Johes f. Thomae Calland de Rumworth 02 Apr 1732 > > Later entries in English: > > Alice d. of Thos Calland of Heaton 29 Sep 1737 > Jane d. of John Calland of Farnworth 24 Nov 1737 > Betty d. of Thomas Calland of Halliwell 24 Apr 1740 > Betty d. of Thomas Calland, Halliwell 04 Jul 1742 (presumably the first one > died but I don't have the burials) > > All these are from the LPRS transcript. Hope they help. > > David in Hertford, England > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 .

David, Thank you for your very quick response. Your list and comments are interesting and give me food for though. Some of the baptism's, especially Alicia in 1714, may lead me to other things, here's hoping? I am still wondering if mother and child, Elizabeth Seddon and daughter, Betty b.24/3/1740, both died then Thomas married Alice Mitchell and named the first child Betty, b. 4/7/1742? I will let you know of any developments. I am most gratefull to you for your input. Regards, Bob Howard, Hampshire. -------Original Message------- From: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com Date: 01 December 2003 01:59:35 To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Elusive Ancestors Hi Bob There are definitely two marriages of Thomas Calland at St Mary, Deane. They are, as you say, to Elizabeth Seddon on 7 Oct 1731 and to Alice Mitchel (sic) of Bolton on 5 Nov 1740. The second one does not say that either was a widow(er). There could, of course, be more than one Thomas Calland. There is no baptism for Thomas Calland at Deane (up to 1750) although there are several other Calland baptisms which I list: Early entries in Latin: Alicia fa. Johannis Calland de Heaton 13 Mar 1714 Rachel fa. Johanis Calland de Halliwell 27 Mar 1724 Johes f. Thomae Calland de Rumworth 02 Apr 1732 Later entries in English: Alice d. of Thos Calland of Heaton 29 Sep 1737 Jane d. of John Calland of Farnworth 24 Nov 1737 Betty d. of Thomas Calland of Halliwell 24 Apr 1740 Betty d. of Thomas Calland, Halliwell 04 Jul 1742 (presumably the first one died but I don't have the burials) All these are from the LPRS transcript. Hope they help. David in Hertford, England ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert.howard403" <robert.howard403@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Elusive Ancestors > I have a Thomas Calland who Married an Elizabeth Seddon at St Mary the Virgin, Deane on 7th Oct 1731. The most likely birth/Christening, for Thomas, that I can see on the IGI is one in 1715. However this does not show any church or father but it states that this Thomas married Alice Mitchell in 1740. As these details have been submitted to the IGI are they wrong? or did Thomas marry twice?. Elizabeth had her last child in 1740, was that the time of her demise? I have a gut feeling that Thomas,s baptism in 1715ish would have taken place in St Mary's, Deane. St Peters, Bolton Le Moors or St Mary the Virgin, Leigh, in that order of priority. Because I am at the other end of the country and not likely to be in the area until next spring, it would be greatly appreciated if SKS could bear this in mind when next looking at these Leigh parish records and assist me with this brick wall. Bob Howard, Hampshire. ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 .

Bob, I will check the burials for Betty d. of Thomas Calland of Halliwell 24 Apr 1740 in Bolton Archives. Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: David Wilkinson <david@nrdav.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:55 AM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Elusive Ancestors > Hi Bob > > There are definitely two marriages of Thomas Calland at St Mary, Deane. They > are, as you say, to Elizabeth Seddon on 7 Oct 1731 and to Alice Mitchel > (sic) of Bolton on 5 Nov 1740. The second one does not say that either was a > widow(er). There could, of course, be more than one Thomas Calland. > > There is no baptism for Thomas Calland at Deane (up to 1750) although there > are several other Calland baptisms which I list: > > Early entries in Latin: > > Alicia fa. Johannis Calland de Heaton 13 Mar 1714 > Rachel fa. Johanis Calland de Halliwell 27 Mar 1724 > Johes f. Thomae Calland de Rumworth 02 Apr 1732 > > Later entries in English: > > Alice d. of Thos Calland of Heaton 29 Sep 1737 > Jane d. of John Calland of Farnworth 24 Nov 1737 > Betty d. of Thomas Calland of Halliwell 24 Apr 1740 > Betty d. of Thomas Calland, Halliwell 04 Jul 1742 (presumably the first one > died but I don't have the burials) > > All these are from the LPRS transcript. Hope they help. > > David in Hertford, England > > > >

Hi Bob There are definitely two marriages of Thomas Calland at St Mary, Deane. They are, as you say, to Elizabeth Seddon on 7 Oct 1731 and to Alice Mitchel (sic) of Bolton on 5 Nov 1740. The second one does not say that either was a widow(er). There could, of course, be more than one Thomas Calland. There is no baptism for Thomas Calland at Deane (up to 1750) although there are several other Calland baptisms which I list: Early entries in Latin: Alicia fa. Johannis Calland de Heaton 13 Mar 1714 Rachel fa. Johanis Calland de Halliwell 27 Mar 1724 Johes f. Thomae Calland de Rumworth 02 Apr 1732 Later entries in English: Alice d. of Thos Calland of Heaton 29 Sep 1737 Jane d. of John Calland of Farnworth 24 Nov 1737 Betty d. of Thomas Calland of Halliwell 24 Apr 1740 Betty d. of Thomas Calland, Halliwell 04 Jul 1742 (presumably the first one died but I don't have the burials) All these are from the LPRS transcript. Hope they help. David in Hertford, England ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert.howard403" <robert.howard403@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Elusive Ancestors > I have a Thomas Calland who Married an Elizabeth Seddon at St Mary the Virgin, Deane on 7th Oct 1731. The most likely birth/Christening, for Thomas, that I can see on the IGI is one in 1715. However this does not show any church or father but it states that this Thomas married Alice Mitchell in 1740. As these details have been submitted to the IGI are they wrong? or did Thomas marry twice?. Elizabeth had her last child in 1740, was that the time of her demise? I have a gut feeling that Thomas,s baptism in 1715ish would have taken place in St Mary's, Deane. St Peters, Bolton Le Moors or St Mary the Virgin, Leigh, in that order of priority. Because I am at the other end of the country and not likely to be in the area until next spring, it would be greatly appreciated if SKS could bear this in mind when next looking at these Leigh parish records and assist me with this brick wall. Bob Howard, Hampshire.

Dear Pat Try the web site www.GenealogySupplies.com they have it at £49.95p . Good hunting. Tom Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: <TriciaMT1234@aol.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 8:01 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] 1871 Census for Lancashire. > Hi, > > Could SKP please tell me if it is possible to buy the 1871 Lancashire Census > on-line? My son is willing to buy this for me for Xmas, but he ordered it > from a company on-line and it is not due out until next year. > > Thank for your help. > > Pat in Kent. > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >