Hi All I actually live in Lowton St Marys and have esay access to the ocal resources in Leigh Library plus I have copies of the MI for Lowton St Lukes, Lowton St Marys, St Thomas Golborne and St Paul Westleigh. Take a look at my website for a number of local names. My Website http://www.rbnw26613.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/My%20Family/ Regards Alan Bennett Lowton England Cheshire BMD Transcriber http://cheshirebmd.org.uk Cheshire Surnames Directory Administrator http://www.fhsc.org.uk/surnames The Lancashire Parish Register Society http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/lprs/ "I use Archive CD Books to help with my research http://www.archivecdbooks.org" Researching: BENNETT (North Cheshire & Warrington) THOMPSTONE (Gawsworth) ROBERTS (Warrington) LOUGHLIN (Liverpool) JONES (Liverpool) MATCHETT (Liverpool) LLOYD (Liverpool) JEFFERSON (Brighouse, Yorkshire) -----Original Message----- From: robert.howard403 [mailto:robert.howard403@ntlworld.com] Sent: 27 May 2003 20:53 To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] lonely Thanks David, I'm looking for Calland's. Its not wet on my bit of the South Coast. Bob Howard. -------Original Message------- From: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 20:03:48 To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] lonely No you are not the only one but alot of the people seem to be all abroad who post messages to this board. I am looking at Yates, Marsh, Tomlin in the Leigh area David wet south coast uk ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 19/05/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 19/05/2003

Dave The following noted from 1885 Postal Directory should springboard you to some interesting leads on the LDS 1881 Census. 32 Chapel St Hugh Clare, age 55, Watchmaker, Wife Annie, Children: Ellen M, Frederick A & Hugh 17 Charles St Thomas Clare, Railway Carter, age 34, Wife: Sarah, Children: William, George & James 10 Henry St Edwin Clare, Cotton Spinner, age 26, Wife: Ellen 5 Peter St George Clare, Labourer Barry Rainford --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.481 / Virus Database: 277 - Release Date: 13/05/2003

As one of LEIGH's newer members and have had some very useful information from some of its 80 quality listers perhaps I could be excused if I recommend to those that are unaware of the LANCSGEN list which is perhaps the most active list within Rootsweb. Also, today I purchased, at 'The Wigan History Shop' the 1885 Postal Directory of Bedford - Leigh. Which also includes Astley, Atherton, Culcheth, Kenyon, Lowton, Pennington and Westleigh. If anyone needs a look-up, do ask, and ye may receive. Regards Barry At Rainford --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.481 / Virus Database: 277 - Release Date: 13/05/2003

Very lucky Pauline, we all dream of a break like that My daughter emigrated to Oz, Perth a month ago. Thanks for your wishes. Bob. -------Original Message------- From: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 20:45:58 To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] lonely Hi Bob My maternal grandparents were from Atherton/Leigh and I, by coincidence, (my family were living in Manchester by then), was born in Lowton St. Mary's, but I haven't responded to the List for a while because SVKS found *all* my rellies in the area several months ago, - wasn't I lucky? Good luck in your search Pauline K in Oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert.howard403" <robert.howard403@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:29 AM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] lonely > I joined the list a about a week ago and since then I have only seen my posting and one other. Are there many on this list? This letter will act as a test as well. Bob Howard, Hampshire. > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 24/04/03 ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 .

Thanks David, I'm looking for Calland's. Its not wet on my bit of the South Coast. Bob Howard. -------Original Message------- From: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 20:03:48 To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] lonely No you are not the only one but alot of the people seem to be all abroad who post messages to this board. I am looking at Yates, Marsh, Tomlin in the Leigh area David wet south coast uk

Thanks Dave you did the trick. Bob Howard, Hampshire.

No you are not the only one but alot of the people seem to be all abroad who post messages to this board. I am looking at Yates, Marsh, Tomlin in the Leigh area David wet south coast uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert.howard403" <robert.howard403@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:29 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] lonely > I joined the list a about a week ago and since then I have only seen my posting and one other. Are there many on this list? This letter will act as a test as well. Bob Howard, Hampshire. > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I joined the list a about a week ago and since then I have only seen my posting and one other. Are there many on this list? This letter will act as a test as well. Bob Howard, Hampshire.

Thanks Barry, I'll put your information to good use. Dave D. on 5/27/03 5:20 PM, Barry Francis at barry.francis@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: > Dave > > The following noted from 1885 Postal Directory should springboard you to > some interesting leads on the LDS 1881 Census.

Just to make sure that Bob does not get lonely here is a Canadian message: Looking for any references to the name CLARE in the Leigh area. My G/G/granny was Rachel Clare b. abt 1801 and bapt. abt 1805 She married James STANDISH in Huyton 1822. Feel better now Bob? Regards Dave D.

Hi Guys, Just to stop Bob feeling lonely I would like to inform him (and others) that we have approximately 80 members to the list in both List and Digest forms. I am the Listowner and I try to give a monthly update on or around the first of the month. Welcome to our new(er) members and I hope your stay is a fruitful one. DAVE

Hello list, I am a new member to this list Having traced my Grt Grandfather Joseph Calland to Wigan but born in Bolton 1829. His Father James Calland was born in Leigh in 1790 and his Father Thomas Calland was born in Leigh 1764. It looks like, and I hope, I will be researching in the Leigh area for quite some time. As I live in Hampshire it is not quite so easy so please bear with my questions on local knowledge. I did pay a visit to Wigan Heritage Trust last week and they were most helpful to me. Bob Howard

Hello Mike, You may already have the answer by now-- yes Newton-le Willows is about two miles to the south of Golborne and I would think it is the same as Newton in the Willows. I believe that at one time Newton-le Willows was also known as Newton in Makerfield. Regards, Jenni. (a former Golborne Girl) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 9:37 PM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Newton in the Willows. > Would any one know if Newton in the Willows is the same place as Newton Le Willows which is close to Golborne? > > Thank you > Mike Morris > Toronto Canada > > > ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== > Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

All list members, My Mother-in-Law's gtgt grandmother was Ellen COCKSHOOT, b. 27 March 1825 (Leigh), d. 27 Feb. 1882 (Leigh). She married Richard YATES (b. 30 April 1825, d. 11 March 1895, Leigh) on 7 Aug. 1847. They had 9 children, all known. Ellen's father was John COCKSHOOT, b. 10 Jun. 1793 (Leigh), d. 9 Nov. 1863. Her mother was Alice JUBB, b. 20 March 1796, d. 24 Dec. 1876. Ellen's grandfather (i.e. father of John) was a Thomas COCKSHEAD, b. c1750, who married Martha (Unknown), b. 1759, d. 9 Nov. 1836. They had the following children: Ann COCKSHOOT, bap. 30 April 1776, St. Mary's R.C. Church, Highfield Street, Liverpool Thomas COCKSHOOT, bap. 14 Jan. 1787, St. Mary's R.C. Church, Highfield Street, Liverpool Martha COCKSHOOT, bap. 23 Jan. 1791, St. Joseph's R.C., Leigh John COCKSHOOT, bap. 10 Jan. 1793, St. Joseph's R.C., Leigh Daniel COCKSHEAD, bap. 7 March 1795, St. Joseph's R.C., Leigh Maria COCKSHEAD, bap. 23 Jul. 1796, St. Joseph's R.C., Leigh William COCKSHED, bap. 7 April 1798, St. Joseph's R.C., Leigh Robert COCKSHUT, bap. May 1801, St. Joseph's R.C., Leigh Maria Coxshoot, bap. 16 October, Astley Chapel, Astley Daniel's parents are given as William and Martha, but this is thought to be a mistake and that Thomas was indeed his father as the children all have the same sponsors. William is known to have moved to Boothstown later on in life. WHERE WAS THIS FAMILY between the birth of Ann (1776) & Thomas (1787)? There is an 11 year gap and no reference can be found to the family in Liverpool between these dates. It is possible they were in the North of Lancashire at this time but that is only speculation. DOES ANYONE HAVE A CONNECTION WITH THESE COCKSHOOTs? If so I would like to hear from you. Tania (This has also been posted on the following website COCKSHOTT-L@rootsweb.com) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.481 / Virus Database: 277 - Release Date: 5/13/2003

While browsing the Channel 4 “Family Tree” pages (464-5) I found the following posted and wondered if any of the subscribers could help this person further? “M. Weaver of Manchester seeking links with a BOYDELL family of Leigh, connected via Gertrude BOYDELL daughter of James BOYDELL (wheelwright). James was the son of Edward BOYDELL (railway guard). (Edward was the son of) David BOYDELL (weaver) who, in 1840, was at Pennington (Flash) when Edward was born.” Anyone have connections? Best wishes, Ian (PLIMMER). _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile

Hi folks I am hoping to spend a couple of weeks back in Lancashire sometime during your summer. I was thinking of taking a look for family headstones in Atherton Cemetry. Are any of you familiar with the place? If my memory is correct, it is at the side of Leigh Road not too far down from the Punch Bowl. Question is - does anyone know if there are cemetry/grave records and plans which would save a lot of time hunting? I will be looking for various family members who died between about 1895 and 1955. Peter Wood Rotorua NZ

Peter, You would be well advised to contact Wigan MBC's Cemeteries Department. I believe a quick trip to Google with the search line of "wigan mbc" + "cemeteries" should find the URL & thus their home page. Hope this helps. DAVE

hi again! here you go! from "JH Lane's History of Newton Le Willows" (edited) "...before and after the Norman conquest, this district was called the hundred of makerfield and Newton-In-Makerfield...also known by the more descriptive and metrical name of Newton in the Willows..." Goes on to explain a book from 1638 by Richard Brathwaite (university man, poet and drunkard) called "Drunken Barnaby's Four Journeys" and this is what he wrote of Newton: "Thence to Newton In The Willows Where being bolster'd up with pillows I at cards play'd with a girl Rose by name a dainty pearl At centy-foot I often moved Her to love me whom I loved." Further explanation says that on entering Newton from the south, this traveller would have had to cross Newton Brook nr Newton Mere in a beautiful valley of willows which would lead to Golborne Dale to the right or Dene Dam to the left! Or words to that effect! haven't seen that many willows in that area to date mind! Ian. >From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> >Reply-To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Newton in the Willows. >Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 16:37:55 -0400 > >Would any one know if Newton in the Willows is the same place as Newton Le >Willows which is close to Golborne? > >Thank you >Mike Morris >Toronto Canada > > >==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== >Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & >Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, >Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join >our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute >regularly. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile

Would any one know if Newton in the Willows is the same place as Newton Le Willows which is close to Golborne? Thank you Mike Morris Toronto Canada

Taaaa!!, muchly obliged Dave. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Redden" <dredden@brockmcvey.com> To: <ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 10:40 AM Subject: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Re: [(ENG-LEIGH)] Whats with the unsubscribe messages? Mike, If you will read the messages that you are referring to you will notice that the Listowner has commented on them already. You do not need worry about your being unsubbed. People can only unsub by sending an e-mail to ENG-LAN-LEIGH-L-request@rootsweb.com with the word Unsubscribe in the subject line. The Listowner (me) is subscribed under two different e-mail addresses, one from home and one from work. I can monitor the listing easily using this method. I hope that people don't get confused and think that there are multiple owners. The reason taht your address has been included id because people just reply to a message and hit send without weeding out the original message. Again, worry ye not and keep doing what you're doing. DAVE ==== ENG-LAN-LEIGH Mailing List ==== Our list covers the following towns: Leigh (inc. Pennington, Westleigh & Bedford), Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley, Lowton, Golborne, Hindley, Abram, Howe Bridge, Culcheth and Glazebury. Make sure your family members join our list. This list is only as good as its members - please contribute regularly. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237