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    1. [ENG-LANCASTER] The end is nigh
    2. Lynne
    3. Hello out there! The end of RootsWeb lists is just around the corner. If you want to make sure anyone reading the archives in future can find you, be sure to post your interests (surnames in all caps; first names, dates, and locations if you chose) and your munged email address to the RootsWeb lists to which you subscribe before 29 February. There are now hundreds of lists/groups on Groups.io that have moved from RootsWeb. You can search for a group at https://groups.io/ and then click on "Find or Create a Group." Many RootsWeb admins have added the word "RootsWeb" to the descriptions of their new groups, so if your first attempt doesn't find the right group, trying adding the keyword RootsWeb to your search. There's also a group just to announce new family research lists, RootsWeb Announce. Search the messages there to find a group. It's been a pleasure administering this list. I hope to see many of you on Groups.io or on the Ancestry/RootsWeb message boards. Take care and best of luck with your research. Kind regards, Lynne lklein at mindspring dot com BUSKEY: Lancashire and Yorkshire ENTWISTLE, ENTWHISTLE: Lancashire JONES: Lancashire and Wales WALTEMADE: Germany, United States FARLEY: Ireland, United States

    02/25/2020 08:17:51
    1. [ENG-LANCASTER] ADMIN - New lists update
    2. Lynne
    3. Hello everyone Just wanted to let you know that the new lists on Groups.io are up and running smoothly. (There are now 722 former RootsWeb lists there!) If you haven't joined yet, please do. You can accept the invitation that was sent to you or go to each list's home page, as noted below, and join from there. Bolton: <https://groups.io/g/Eng-Lan-Bolton> Lancashire: <https://groups.io/g/LancsGen> Liverpool: <https://groups.io/g/Liverpool> Manchester and Salford: <https://groups.io/g/ManchesterSalford> I'll continue to do administrative tasks, but I'm going to stop posting to the RootsWeb lists. There may be exceptions, of course, maybe just to say good-bye. I hope you'll join me on Groups.io. Kind regards, Lynne

    01/30/2020 05:51:29
    1. [ENG-LANCASTER] Re: new LancsGen list
    2. Lynne
    3. Hello Kaye Sorry for the delay in responding. It seems all my time has been taken up learning about Groups.io and managing the new groups there. I'm sorry if my message to the list wasn't clear. There will be no new Lancaster list. The list has been inactive with no posts, except those from me, for over a year. Croston and Preston are likewise inactive so those lists will not be replaced at Groups.io [email protected] encompasses all of Lancashire. If you have queries or information about any area of historical Lancashire, please join that list and post to it. Lists for other areas which were active on RootsWeb, namely Bolton, Liverpool and Manchester & Salford, which I also admin, have been created on Groups.io. It's fairly easy to find lists under Groups.io. Administrators who have moved their lists there have been careful to include keywords, such as RootsWeb, genealogy, and family history. To find one of the new groups, go to <https://groups.io/search> and enter a word or words in the search field at the upper right of the screen. For example, if you're searching for a Lancashire family history group, enter the words LANCASHIRE and GENEALOGY into the search field. When the results appear, you can click on the name of the list to be taken to the home page. From there you can request to join the group. Hope that helps and that you'll join some of the new Lancashire groups. Kind regards, Lynne Kaye Horne wrote: > >Hi Lynne, > >I have not had an invitation to join a few of the roots web lists, I did get one for Croston, so far nothing further on this Lancaster list, or anything at all on my Preston one, do you “own” all of them. I tried to find a list under the new system where I could just choose which ones I wanted to belong to but have been unable to find them. It was so easy under Rootsweb. > >Thanks for your time. >Kaye

    01/28/2020 10:43:22
    1. [ENG-LANCASTER] Re: ENG-LAN-LANCASTER Digest, Vol 15, Issue 1
    2. Kaye Horne
    3. Hi Lynne, I have not had an invitation to join a few of the roots web lists, I did get one for Croston, so far nothing further on this Lancaster list, or anything at all on my Preston one, do you “own” all of them. I tried to find a list under the new system where I could just choose which ones I wanted to belong to but have been unable to find them. It was so easy under Rootsweb. Thanks for your time. Kaye > On Jan 20, 2020, at 4:03 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send ENG-LAN-LANCASTER mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body > subscribe to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and > body unsubscribe to [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of ENG-LAN-LANCASTER digest..." > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > Be sure list mail is in PLAIN TEXT and SNIP when replying. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. ADMIN: new LancsGen list (Lynne) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 18:58:26 -0500 (GMT-05:00) > From: Lynne <[email protected]> > Subject: [ENG-LANCASTER] ADMIN: new LancsGen list > To: Undisclosed recipients:; > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hello all > > Further to my message last week informing you of the closure of RootsWeb mailing lists, a new list for all of Lancashire has been created on the host Groups.io. > > I'll be sending you an invitation via Groups.io list in just a little while. Just follow the directions to join the list. > > Alternatively, you can go to the new list's home page at <https://groups.io/g/LancsGen> and subscribe to the new list by scrolling down to Join This List (or Apply for Membership to This Group) and clicking on the link. > > Be sure to respond to the confirmation email you'll receive from Groups.io or you won't be subscribed. > > Once you receive the welcome message and list guidelines, please take a look at them and let me know _off-list_ if there are any errors or if you have any questions. > > Hope you will join and enjoy the new list! > > Kind regards, > Lynne > list owner > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > ------------------------------ > > End of ENG-LAN-LANCASTER Digest, Vol 15, Issue 1 > ************************************************

    01/22/2020 11:48:06
    1. [ENG-LANCASTER] ADMIN: new LancsGen list
    2. Lynne
    3. Hello all Further to my message last week informing you of the closure of RootsWeb mailing lists, a new list for all of Lancashire has been created on the host Groups.io. I'll be sending you an invitation via Groups.io list in just a little while. Just follow the directions to join the list. Alternatively, you can go to the new list's home page at <https://groups.io/g/LancsGen> and subscribe to the new list by scrolling down to Join This List (or Apply for Membership to This Group) and clicking on the link. Be sure to respond to the confirmation email you'll receive from Groups.io or you won't be subscribed. Once you receive the welcome message and list guidelines, please take a look at them and let me know _off-list_ if there are any errors or if you have any questions. Hope you will join and enjoy the new list! Kind regards, Lynne list owner

    01/19/2020 08:11:06
    1. [ENG-LANCASTER] RootsWeb Mailing Lists -- some very bad news :-(
    2. Lynne
    3. List administrators just received this message. No advanced warning, not even an inkling. Am shocked to the core. Lynne list admin. -----Forwarded Message----- >From: RootsWeb Administration <[email protected]> >Sent: Jan 7, 2020 12:37 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [LO] RootsWeb Mailing Lists > >Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. > >Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on RootsWeb. > >As an alternative to RootsWeb Mailing Lists, Ancestry message boards are a great option to network with others in the genealogy community. Message boards are available for free with an Ancestry registered account. > >Thank you for being part of the RootsWeb family and contributing to this community. > >Sincerely, >The RootsWeb team

    01/07/2020 11:57:26
    1. [ENG-LANCASTER] Re: Lancashire Catholic Records
    2. Lynne
    3. Hello Lorraine and all I think Carmel sent her message to the wrong list, to which she is not subscribed, and I compounded the problem by releasing her message to this list. Lorraine, your very informative message has been forwarded to Carmel and am CCing her with this so all is not lost. Carmel is subscribed to LancsGen, so further conversation can take place on that list. Carmel, because there is so little traffic (none!) on the Fylde list, I would recommend posting only on LancsGen. The list encompasses all locations in historical Lancashire and has the most traffic and subscribers. Kind regards, Lynne PS: "Wonderful"? You have made my day/week/month/year, Lorraine! :-) Lorraine <[email protected]> wrote: > >Hi Carmel, > >The availability of Catholic records is related to the complex socio-political history of England since the Reformation including the Penal Laws and Catholic Emancipation (topics not dealt with quickly). Historically, Lancashire was the most Catholic part of England and the Fylde was the most Catholic part of Lancashire. Irish immigration was only a part of this. > >The Catholic Records Society (CRS) published transcription of the early records of some Lancashire Catholic parishes many years ago. Try Googling "Lancashire Catholic registers + Catholic record society”. You will find at least some of these on the Internet Archive for free download. These books are in compendium volumes, each encompassing several places. However, generally speaking, there are no Catholic church records available before the latter half of the 18th century. > >But - there are multiple adjunct sources for researching Catholics. Probably the most significant of these is the Returns of Papists of the Diocese of Chester, 1767, a census substitute which lists entire Catholic families with ages and occupations and the length of time they have resided in specific Lancashire parishes. > >The Catholic Family History Society in England <http://catholicfhs.online/>. has many publications including a CD of Lancashire Catholic wills that may be helpful. Michael Gandy’s books on Catholic records will be similarly so. > > There are several rootsweb list for Lancashire. On LANCSGEN, probably the largest Lancashire list, also administered by the wonderful Lynne, searching its archives for posts by Jim Lancaster over the past many years will give you significant help with information on Lancashire Catholics. Posting your query on LANCSGEN also may help. There’s also an ENGLAND-LAN-FYLDE list you can post on. > >Enquiries to local priests, who are already very busy because of growing priest shortages, may not yield responses. > >You will also need to look in records of the C of E parish church of each local area to find your Catholic ancestors. > >I suggest you post specific queries with full details about each ancestor you are trying to take further back. Such a specific query may be more likely to yield useful responses. > >Good luck, > >Lorraine >Victoria, BC >Canada

    03/03/2019 11:28:51
    1. [ENG-LANCASTER] Re: Lancashire Catholic Records
    2. Lorraine
    3. Hi Carmel, The availability of Catholic records is related to the complex socio-political history of England since the Reformation including the Penal Laws and Catholic Emancipation (topics not dealt with quickly). Historically, Lancashire was the most Catholic part of England and the Fylde was the most Catholic part of Lancashire. Irish immigration was only a part of this. The Catholic Records Society (CRS) published transcription of the early records of some Lancashire Catholic parishes many years ago. Try Googling "Lancashire Catholic registers + Catholic record society”. You will find at least some of these on the Internet Archive for free download. These books are in compendium volumes, each encompassing several places. However, generally speaking, there are no Catholic church records available before the latter half of the 18th century. But - there are multiple adjunct sources for researching Catholics. Probably the most significant of these is the Returns of Papists of the Diocese of Chester, 1767, a census substitute which lists entire Catholic families with ages and occupations and the length of time they have resided in specific Lancashire parishes. The Catholic Family History Society in England <http://catholicfhs.online/>. has many publications including a CD of Lancashire Catholic wills that may be helpful. Michael Gandy’s books on Catholic records will be similarly so. There are several rootsweb list for Lancashire. On LANCSGEN, probably the largest Lancashire list, also administered by the wonderful Lynne, searching its archives for posts by Jim Lancaster over the past many years will give you significant help with information on Lancashire Catholics. Posting your query on LANCSGEN also may help. There’s also an ENGLAND-LAN-FYLDE list you can post on. Enquiries to local priests, who are already very busy because of growing priest shortages, may not yield responses. You will also need to look in records of the C of E parish church of each local area to find your Catholic ancestors. I suggest you post specific queries with full details about each ancestor you are trying to take further back. Such a specific query may be more likely to yield useful responses. Good luck, Lorraine Victoria, BC Canada > On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:16 PM, Carmel Crosby <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Listers, > > Could someone advise where and how I can try to find BMDs of Catholic ancestors, who lived in the Lancaster, Over Wyresdale, Forton, Moorhead, Blindhurst and Lytham areas in Lancashire in the 1600-1700s. I think I need to contact local priests but any help appreciated. > > Many thanks > Carmel Crosby > Australia > > The Lancaster family names I am looking at are Parkinson, Robinson and Snape. > > _______________________________________________ > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > Be sure list mail is in PLAIN TEXT. > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    02/28/2019 09:55:45
    1. [ENG-LANCASTER] Fw: Lancashire Catholic Records
    2. Carmel Crosby
    3. Hi Listers, Could someone advise where and how I can try to find BMDs of Catholic ancestors, who lived in the Lancaster,  Over Wyresdale, Forton, Moorhead, Blindhurst and Lytham  areas in Lancashire in the 1600-1700s. I think I need to contact local priests but any help appreciated. Many thanks Carmel Crosby Australia The Lancaster family names I am looking at are Parkinson, Robinson and Snape.

    02/26/2019 11:16:05
    1. [ENG-LANCASTER] GRO certificate costs to increase in February
    2. Lynne
    3. First announced by Peter Calver in his LostCousins newsletter and now written about by UKBMD, a variety of family history societies, and Who Do You Think You Are Magazine, certificate costs will increase 16 February 2019. From Who Do You Think You Are magazine, "Increased charges for this service, which will come into force on 16 February 2019, have now been published in Statutory Instrument No 1268, 'Registration of births, deaths & marriages, etc., England and Wales', available on the UK government's legislation website. "The cost of print certificates will increase from £9.25 to £11, and from £23.40 to £35 for the priority service, which allows delivery on the next working day. The same costs will apply if researchers order the certificate from their local register office. "In October 2017 the GRO introduced a new pilot scheme allowing researchers to order PDF copies of digitised birth and death records for £6 each. Following an estimated 79,600 PDF orders in three months, the scheme was extended indefinitely. "The cost of PDF records will now increase to £7, with priority deliveries available at £45. "If researchers make an application to the GRO for a certificate copy without knowing the index reference, there will be an additional non-refundable fee of £3 in exchange for GRO staff carrying out a search of the index. Currently, this service is free. "There will also be a fee of £3.50 where the GRO cannot fulfil an order because the staff cannot locate the record with the information provided. "The increased fees are the first pricing changes at the GRO since 2010."

    01/04/2019 05:56:30
    1. [ENG-LANCASTER] LancashireBMD updates Dec 7 and 15, 2018
    2. Lynne
    3. News from John Marsden - New data has been added at www.lancashirebmd.org.uk as follows: Added 131 Births for Lancaster RD comprising: Preesall (1969-1974) Added 2,336 Births for Hyndburn RD comprising: Haslingden (1890-1895) Added 6,356 Births for Bury RD comprising: Bury (1965-1968) Added 3,010 Deaths for Bury RD comprising: Radcliffe (1934-1937); Elton (1890-1892) Added 915 Marriages for Fleetwood and Fylde RD comprising: Poulton-le-Fylde, Methodist Church (Queensway), (1940-2000) St. Annes-on-Sea, The Drive Methodist Church (Clifton Drive South) (1909-1998) Thanks are due to Tony Foster and his team for the above. Added 33,722 Births for Manchester RD comprising: Manchester (1990-1997) Added 32,716 Deaths for Manchester RD comprising: Manchester (1988-1997) Thanks are due to Liz Williamson and Phil Wharram and their team. For access to all the UK's major BMD and Census sites visit https://www.UKBMD.org.uk/ For access to all the UK's major Family History sites visit http://www.UKGDL.org.uk/ For access to all the UK's major Military Family History sites visit http://www.UKMFH.org.uk/

    12/24/2018 10:53:34
    1. [ENG-LANCASTER] National Archives - Change in fees
    2. Lynne
    3. From <http://livelb.nationalarchives.gov.uk/about/news/changes-to-our-fees/> - "From 1 February 2019, there will be changes to some of the fees we charge. "Archive boxes on repository shelvesAs a government department providing a public service, we are able to charge for some statutory services (as defined by the Public Records Act ) on a cost recovery basis. The Fees Order, which regulates our fees, has been refreshed from the last calculation which came into effect 1 April 2017. We are maintaining the standard approach in line with the HM Treasury publication, Managing Public Money, to set charges at a level that will recover full costs, ensuring that The National Archives neither profits at the expense of consumers nor makes a loss for taxpayers to subsidise. "There are both price increases and decreases, for example a digital copy up to A3 size goes up by 10p to £1.20. Currently, our research service cost £23.35 per 15 minutes, this will go up by £1.00 however, the charge for a copy of a naturalisation certificate will go down by 25p to £27.15. "As there is no legal requirement for The National Archives to digitise physical public records these services are by definition discretionary. We have therefore removed the following digital surrogate related lines: • The creation of digital surrogates funded by others (for a commercial return, or to widen access) • Reprographic charges (Production and Estimation) • Image Library (Serviced Copies – Colour Photograph) • Digital Downloads • Conservation for Digitisation "In addition to, but separate from, the Fees Order changes, we are introducing a fee for the provision of letters of no evidence of naturalisation, in the same way that we charge for certified copies of naturalisation certificates. They will incur a fee of £27.15 which is regulated to be the cost recovery price (i.e. the cost to The National Archives doing the work). "A full list of fees can be found here <www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/record-copying-prices-february-2019.pdf>" Don't shoot the messenger! Lynne

    12/23/2018 03:28:58
    1. [ENG-LANCASTER] Season's Greetings
    2. Lynne
    3. Dear Friends, My sincere best wishes to all of you for a very merry Christmas. May the coming year bring you peace, good health, and joy, plus a few demolished brick walls. Warm regards, Lynne list admin.

    12/21/2018 08:09:36
    1. [ENG-LANCASTER] Giveaways - Federation of Family History Societies (FFHS)
    2. Lynne
    3. The Christmas edition of the FFHS has links to multiple giveaways -- too many for me to list here -- and a DNA report in which you might be interested. See <https://mailchi.mp/ffhs/christmas-newsletter-2018?e=e5e58f2aea> for the online edition. Enjoy! Lynne

    12/17/2018 09:25:15
    1. [ENG-LANCASTER] Re: Inquests reported in UK newspapers
    2. Lynne
    3. Yes, of course, Annette. Adele, the original poster, has given permission to post everywhere. :-) Kind regards, Lynne Annette Watson <[email protected]> wrote: > >Hi Lynne, > >Thank you so much for this resource, am still checking the various >counties in England. > >Is it OK to post it to other county lists?- My subs are to Devon, >Derby, Leicestershire-plus, >Northumberland,Norfolk, Notts, West-Riding and Yorkshire. > >Annette WATSON >Lismore 2480 >Australia >

    12/16/2018 04:28:49
    1. [ENG-LANCASTER] Re: Inquests reported in UK newspapers
    2. Annette Watson
    3. Hi Lynne, Thank you so much for this resource, am still checking the various counties in England. Is it OK to post it to other county lists?- My subs are to Devon, Derby, Leicestershire-plus, Northumberland,Norfolk, Notts, West-Riding and Yorkshire. Annette WATSON Lismore 2480 Australia At 03:25 AM 17/12/2018, you wrote: > From the Macquarie University in Australia, some Coronial Inquests > extracted from local newspapers. Scroll down and click on the > country of interest then click on the county. There's also a page > of deaths at sea. Be aware, it's a very interesting resource but > also very gruesome. > ><http://www.law.mq.edu.au/research/colonial_case_law/colonial_cases/less_developed/coronial_inquests/> >or ><https://tinyurl.com/yb3ct2qe> > >My thanks to Adele on the LancsGen list for pointing out this resource. > >Please do let us know if you find an ancestor mentioned. > >Lynne > >_______________________________________________ > >:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > >Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. >Other people can learn from them! > >Be sure list mail is in PLAIN TEXT. > > >:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe >https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >RootsWeb community

    12/16/2018 03:43:23
    1. [ENG-LANCASTER] Inquests reported in UK newspapers
    2. Lynne
    3. From the Macquarie University in Australia, some Coronial Inquests extracted from local newspapers. Scroll down and click on the country of interest then click on the county. There's also a page of deaths at sea. Be aware, it's a very interesting resource but also very gruesome. <http://www.law.mq.edu.au/research/colonial_case_law/colonial_cases/less_developed/coronial_inquests/> or <https://tinyurl.com/yb3ct2qe> My thanks to Adele on the LancsGen list for pointing out this resource. Please do let us know if you find an ancestor mentioned. Lynne

    12/16/2018 09:45:33
    1. [ENG-LANCASTER] ????Happy Lancashire Day????
    2. Lynne
    3. Happy Lancashire Day, everyone! And thanks, Bob, for the reminder. Lynne

    11/27/2018 08:22:29
    1. [ENG-LANCASTER] Finding the Stories of the Women in Your Family Tree
    2. Lynne
    3. Ancestry has a free tip sheet in PDF form. The slant and illustrations are from a US perspective, but the ideas work on either side of the Atlantic. See https://ancstry.me/2zhouwd to download the document. Do you have some tips to share with us? There are a lot of subscribers to this list with varying degrees of expertise. As well as your queries, please post research advice, event information, and other family history information. Most of us are eager learn and you can help keep the list alive by posting. Lynne list admin.

    11/01/2018 11:28:37
    1. [ENG-LANCASTER] Heritage Open Days 2018
    2. Lynne
    3. Heritage Open Days 2018 will be 6-9 & 13-16 September The Heritage Open Days web site has a printer-friendly list of properties and events by regions, counties, towns, and local councils. There are also several ways to search for events. Since the problem with extended ProofPoint URLs hasn't been fixed yet, the web site URL is not included here. Instead, just Google for Heritage Open Days 2018. If you attend any of the events, please write to the list about your experiences. Lynne

    09/04/2018 10:25:19