What a "Small World"! Even smaller, Rene. 250 Norbreck Road was where the headmaster of Norbreck School once lived, when I worked there. So 252 must be next door, which means it is the one next to the School. I wonder if they built both houses as the houses are semi detached. I presume you know this means, two houses adjoining. I do not live far away, if I could walk better, then I could walk there. I will have a ride round in the car and take a look. In the years that you mention such a lot of boarding houses were in operation, most of these are now turned into flats. Olive

terryrene wrote: >Would anyone know the name of an old Hotel,or B&B, >or Boarding House at 113 Bold Street, Fleetwood >Proprietor: Mrs. Beeby >Sometime in the 1930's/40's >Thank you >Rene/USA > > > > > Hi Rene I checked the Barratts Directory 1934 and there was no Beeby named at 113 Bold Street Fleetwood. This was at that time a block of flats. I checked all the Fleetwood streets but did not come across the name Beeby. I note that in an earlier email to the list you stated that you are trying to connect her to a Beeby in Norbreck Road,. this sounds to me like a Bispham address near Blackpool so maybe you need to extend your search to that area. Sorry I wasn't much help. regards Julie

Thank you Julie for responding and for the research into Barrett's Directory. I do appreciate it. The information about the address and the name came from the back of an old "tourist book" on FLEETWOOD, with a date of 1949. In trying to link the Mrs. Beeby, I thought the years would have been more like the late 30's or early 40's. If it was a block of flats in 1934, that is intriguing. I wonder if the building was sold and turned into a Hotel. Do you know of any Business Directory for later years that I could search? Thank you for trying. Rene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Dalton" <julie@cybersoftcentral.com> To: <ENG-LAN-FYLDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [FYLDE] Hotel in Fleetwood, Lancs around 1930's/40's > terryrene wrote: > >>Would anyone know the name of an old Hotel,or B&B, >>or Boarding House at 113 Bold Street, Fleetwood >>Proprietor: Mrs. Beeby >>Sometime in the 1930's/40's >>Thank you >>Rene/USA >> >> >> >> >> > Hi Rene > > I checked the Barratts Directory 1934 and there was no Beeby named at > 113 Bold Street Fleetwood. This was at that time a block of flats. I > checked all the Fleetwood streets but did not come across the name Beeby. > > I note that in an earlier email to the list you stated that you are > trying to connect her to a Beeby in Norbreck Road,. this sounds to me > like a Bispham address near Blackpool so maybe you need to extend your > search to that area. > > Sorry I wasn't much help. > > regards > > Julie > > > ==== ENG-LAN-FYLDE Mailing List ==== > ~Keep e-mail short and succinct. When responding to a message, > SNIP, leaving just enough of that message so that other listers know > to what you are responding. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Rene I actually live on Norbreck Road, so is there any further information for this address. Would this be a boarding house or a private house? Blackpool Library may be able to help, but a lot of electoral rolls for the 1930`s were lost in the Town Hall fire. central.library@blackpool.gov.uk Olive

What a "Small World", Olive. My mother's brother and family (Jim and Clara STARR) built the house in 1932 at 252 Norbreck Road, Little Bispham, next to a school and lived their until the early 50's. Is that the same Norbreck Road where you live? Thank you for the website to the Library. I appreciate your help so much and shall contact them. The address at Bold Street would have been a Hotel/Boarding House in the 30's or 40's. I do not know what it is today. I did go on the website for Fleetwood and the historic pictures there were wonderful and showed BOLD STREET from the Mount Hotel and about 40 other pictures from the late 1800's and early 1900's. The homes appear to be 3 stories with the big bow windows I think they are attached to each other also. My Auntie Clara's mother was "Mrs. Beeby" and my cousins and I were trying to see if there was a connection to that building on Bold Street as there was "family talk" of a Boarding House. This list is fantastic the way everyone helps each other. Thank you again. Rene/USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "olive" <olive.cookson@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-LAN-FYLDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 5:04 AM Subject: [FYLDE] Hotel in Fleetwood > Rene > I actually live on Norbreck Road, so is there any further information for > this address. > Would this be a boarding house or a private house? > Blackpool Library may be able to help, but a lot of electoral rolls for > the 1930`s were lost in the Town Hall fire. > central.library@blackpool.gov.uk > Olive

Rene Bold Street is still there and so is the Mount Hotel. Try emailing Fleetwood Library, they have quite a good Family History Department. They may have electoral rolls etc. or may tell you where they are stored if still available. Have you any more information? Olive in Blackpool, just up the coast from Fleetwood.

Thank you Olive. No, I don't really have much information to go on except the address 113 Bold Street, Fleetwood and "Boarding House Proprietor" Mrs. Beeby. I was trying to connect her to the same Mrs. Beeby in my family who lived at Norbreck Road in the 30's and wondered if she owned the property. I will e mail the Library. Thank you for the suggestion. Rene/USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "olive" <olive.cookson@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-LAN-FYLDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 5:37 PM Subject: [FYLDE] Hotel in Fleetwood > Rene > Bold Street is still there and so is the Mount Hotel. > Try emailing Fleetwood Library, they have quite a good Family History > Department. They may have electoral rolls etc. or may tell you where they > are stored if still available. > Have you any more information? > Olive in Blackpool, just up the coast from Fleetwood. > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-FYLDE Mailing List ==== > No off-list lookup requests, please! They defeat the entire purpose of > the list and put undue pressure on the recipient. Please SHARE by posting > to the list! > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Would anyone know the name of an old Hotel,or B&B, or Boarding House at 113 Bold Street, Fleetwood Proprietor: Mrs. Beeby Sometime in the 1930's/40's Thank you Rene/USA

Hi Tony Can recommend the food there, we often go for a meal. If you want any information re the Fylde just ask, in case anyone can help. Olive

Janet Thank you so much. Booked it already!! It's perfect, as near to all the places I need. This list is a brilliant help. Many thanks Rosie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet C" <jancee52@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-LAN-FYLDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:03 PM Subject: RE: [FYLDE] Visiting Fylde Hi Rosie This isn't a recommendation, I haven't been here in many years, but it sounds the sort of thing you're looking for and they have 6 rooms:- Up by the toll bridge over the River Wyre at Little Eccleston is the Cartford Country Inn. Previously a farmhouse, the pub has an on-site brewery (Hart) and the pub is a four-time winner of CAMRA pub of the year for Fylde and is listed in the CAMRA Good Food Guide. A good choice for well-prepared pub food like gammon (£4.95), steak and mushroom pie (£4.95) and home-made curries. More info on this website:- http://www.sugarvine.com/minisite/more_information.asp?id=4455 or Google for more reviews of the place! Good luck, hope you have a good trip. Janet C >From: "Tony Weeks" <tonyweeks@btconnect.com> >Reply-To: ENG-LAN-FYLDE-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-LAN-FYLDE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [FYLDE] Visiting Fylde >Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 10:55:28 +0100 > >Planning to visit the Fylde area en route to Scotland so that I can take >some photos of family addresses, visit cemeteries etc. Can anyone recommend >a quaint pub with rooms or rural hotel in the area? We're looking for a >very peaceful location but most websites seem to direct me to the hotspots >of Blackpool - not that I have anything against the place as I'm born and >bred Blackpool!! > >Many thanks > >Rosie Weeks ==== ENG-LAN-FYLDE Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE, RE-SUBSCRIBE, contact the list owner, or view the ARCHIVES, use the links at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-LAN-FYLDE.html ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Hi Rosie This isn't a recommendation, I haven't been here in many years, but it sounds the sort of thing you're looking for and they have 6 rooms:- Up by the toll bridge over the River Wyre at Little Eccleston is the Cartford Country Inn. Previously a farmhouse, the pub has an on-site brewery (Hart) and the pub is a four-time winner of CAMRA pub of the year for Fylde and is listed in the CAMRA Good Food Guide. A good choice for well-prepared pub food like gammon (£4.95), steak and mushroom pie (£4.95) and home-made curries. More info on this website:- http://www.sugarvine.com/minisite/more_information.asp?id=4455 or Google for more reviews of the place! Good luck, hope you have a good trip. Janet C >From: "Tony Weeks" <tonyweeks@btconnect.com> >Reply-To: ENG-LAN-FYLDE-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-LAN-FYLDE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [FYLDE] Visiting Fylde >Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 10:55:28 +0100 > >Planning to visit the Fylde area en route to Scotland so that I can take >some photos of family addresses, visit cemeteries etc. Can anyone recommend >a quaint pub with rooms or rural hotel in the area? We're looking for a >very peaceful location but most websites seem to direct me to the hotspots >of Blackpool - not that I have anything against the place as I'm born and >bred Blackpool!! > >Many thanks > >Rosie Weeks

Planning to visit the Fylde area en route to Scotland so that I can take some photos of family addresses, visit cemeteries etc. Can anyone recommend a quaint pub with rooms or rural hotel in the area? We're looking for a very peaceful location but most websites seem to direct me to the hotspots of Blackpool - not that I have anything against the place as I'm born and bred Blackpool!! Many thanks Rosie Weeks

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Hi Olive, Hope you are keeping well and happy,is your foot ok now.suppose you are feeling a wee bit hot as it has been 30 degrees the last few days.our winter is super,i just love it and hate it to end.We have a serious water shortage and no longer can hose our gardens which is sad for us that love our gardens,have to bucket and i have a big area,so getting plenty of excersise.the next level if it doesnt rain will be no bucketing,so i dont know what we will do ,we have clouds hanging over us but no decent rain.do hopi hope to be just once more when my baby goes to doggie heaven lol.she is here beside me now and looking great but is 11 at xmas and i dread her going to doggie heaven,give my love to dear old england bye for noe CAROL. ----- Original Message ----- From: "olive" <olive.cookson@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-LAN-FYLDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 1:46 AM Subject: [FYLDE] Blackpool and Fylde > Dear Carol > > It is just family history got a hold of me and I am addicted to it. > People have helped me so much so I am always trying to do my bit back. > I am not very mobile so can only look up things I have at home etc. I have > given up offering to go to the Library or Bow Lane. > I live up the other end of Blackpool, almost at Cleveleys. > Photo of me, well not sure of that!! > > http://www.blackpooltoday.co.uk/ > Have a look at this, it is new, there is also Fleetwood and Lytham too. You > might see something of interest. > > http://www.lancashirechurches.co.uk/churches.htm > Have a look at this, pictures of some Fylde Churches and others in > Lancashire. > > I am still stuck here, so tied google, putting in Blackpool, Kirkham etc. > Came up with lots of information. > > I hope you find something that you will find interesting, I am sure you > will. > > Olive > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-FYLDE Mailing List ==== > EXTREMELY USEFUL SITES: http://www.genuki.org.uk/, > http://www.FamilyRecords.gov.uk, http://www.a2a.org.uk, > http://www.familysearch.org > Geneology abbreviations, acronyms: http://www.gendocs.demon.co.uk/abbr.html > LANCASHIRE ONLINE PARISH CLERKS: www.lan-opc.org.uk > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hello Barbara, Goodness knows where the Blackpool came from re the birth of Annie, there were 2 of them on the GRO, I think, for Fylde, which at that date covered Fleetwood. There is no Register Office in Thornton, so the name would not appear, but at one time Amounderness was quoted too. You need to ask at Blackpool Central Library re when the Blackpool Gazette began publishing. All the papers are held there on film. Is the date 1808? The only Church available was St Paul Marton, I have no details for anyone named Sanderson. The only other old burial grounds were St John, Bethesda and Holy Trinity in South Shore. These remains were all removed to Layton. Ring the Library and ask for Tony, tell him Olive sent you! Good luck Olive

Thank you all for your response to my query. Hi Olive, and yes, I did think about the old Fleetwood Barracks. Used to play as a child on the derelict site. My query was sparked by the report in the army BMD indices of the birth of Annie Sanderson b 1902, place of birth given as Blackpool. What made me think it wasn't the Fleetwood Barracks is that place of birth, I would have thought for anywhere in Fleetwood would have been given as Thornton or Fylde??? Could I ask for help with the following? I have a photo of a Sergeant Sanderson Military funeral winding through the streets of Blackpool in Jan 1808. Does any one have any idea which church cemeteries in Blackpool would have been available for this burial in 1808? It would give me some inkling as to which church records to look at. Also, When did the publishing of the Blackpool Evening Gazette commence? Any help, is as usual gratefully received. Regards to all. Barbara Whiteside.

To Phil Moon, Went on Origins website and there doesn't appear to be a facility to get access free. Please can you give more details? Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Moon" <phul.moon@gmail.com> To: <ENG-LAN-FYLDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 6:48 PM Subject: [FYLDE] free Origins access > In case you didn't see this - > > "The Origins Network (www.originsnetwork.com) is offering free access to > both > British and Irish Origins on the 4th July to celebrate US Independence > Day. > Free access will begin at 00.00GMT and will run until 08.00GMT on the 5th > July 2006. In order to access, simply go to www.originsnetwork.com and > click > on the link to sign up or login." > > Cheers, > Phil > > > ==== ENG-LAN-FYLDE Mailing List ==== > EXTREMELY USEFUL SITES: ~~ Lancashire pages: > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/ > ~~ Lancashire Family History & Heraldry Society: http://www.lfhhs.org.uk/ > ~~ Manchester & Lancashire FHS: www.mlfhs.org.uk > ~~ Lancashire Parish Register Society: > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/lprs/ > ~~ Liverpool & SW Lancs FHS: www.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

In case you didn't see this - "The Origins Network (www.originsnetwork.com) is offering free access to both British and Irish Origins on the 4th July to celebrate US Independence Day. Free access will begin at 00.00GMT and will run until 08.00GMT on the 5th July 2006. In order to access, simply go to www.originsnetwork.com and click on the link to sign up or login." Cheers, Phil

Hi Phil and Jackie. I know there is some information on what exactly was at Squires Gate etc. so I will ask at the library and post this to the list. Some time in the future someone may need this and if the information goes under a proper heading it can then be searched in the archives later. I know once I looked at a book on this subject, so I will see what I can find to help out others. Olive

olive wrote: > Barbara > > Are you sure that the barracks were in Blackpool? Have a walk round! > > Fleetwood Library have an article, written by H. Peters, about the > Hutment Barracks. They also included some diagrams of the > establishment, which show the location of the hospital, the canteen > (operated by my great grandfather) and the other camp buildings. They > also included a photo of the hospital. > > The Barracks was on the corner of Poulton Road and Cemetery Road/Lane > (now Beach Road). The Queens Hotel was located across from the camp on > Poulton Road. The Camp stood on 14.5 acres of land and was built in > 1861 and closed at the end of 1929, at which time the Hutments and the > rifle ranges were passed on to the Town. > > The boundary of the Camp was along Beach Road from Poulton Road to > Shakespeare Road. Along Shakespeare Road to a line between what is now > Borrowdale and Bramley Avenues. Along this line from Shakespeare Road > to Poulton Road and then along Poulton Road back to Beach Road. > > The rifle ranges were next to the cemetery and bounded by Beach Road and > Poulton Road. There were 3 by 900 yard firing mounds, 5 by 800 yard > mounds, 3 by 750 yard mounds, 1 by 700 yard mound and a 1 by 650 yard > mound. > > There are 2 Annie Sandersons in Freebmd under Fylde, which could match > up with Fleetwood. > > The Squires Gate Army set up was not a barracks. I believe this was > some kind of Army hospital. You can ask at Blackpool Library about > this. central.library@blackpool.gov.uk > > Not sure when Weeton began, but the barracks are still there. Quite recent really, during the last war when it was built for the RAF (but was not an airfield). When it was no longer required, I think in the 1950s it was then taken on by the army. > > Olive > phil -- Phil Stringer, Enterprise Systems, Phone +44 161 275 6057 IT Services Fax +44 161 275 6040 The University of Manchester email Phil.Stringer@manchester.ac.uk UK Genealogy - http://www.genuki.org.uk/