Dear Listers, Don't know if/when you'll receive this, but it's worth a try to let you know that there have been problems with RootsWeb's mail servers. In addition to AOL and some other ISPs blocking RootsWeb mail, quite a lot of mail that has been sent through RootsWeb's servers has just been stuck there and has not made it to the list. The problem is particularly bad with those lists that have been migrated to the new mail program. I'm afraid that there's nothing we can do but sit and wait, fingers crossed. I'm sure everything will soon be back to normal (whatever 'normal' is!) Have a good Bank Holiday weekend! Best wishes, Lynne

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>From the site of TheGenealogist.co.uk FREDERICK EVANS District PENKRIDGE Vol 6 Page b332 Hope this helps

Hi all, Just a quick line to let you know that the LANCASHIRE LOOK UP EXCHANGE is now up and running. You can access it directly by going to: http://www.lancs-lookup.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ or by going to: http://aztecrose.tripod.com/LookupExchange.htm and clicking on LANCASHIRE. Thank you to all who have volunteered to help with this project and to those of you that are not able to volunteer, but who have sent messages of support. I am still in need of some more volunteers. To be a volunteer you will need to have access to some Lancashire source ie, trade directories, parish records etc. You can check the site to see the type of thing and also to see what we have covered already. I have plenty of people who are happy to do census look ups and BMDs, but I need the more unusual stuff or those who are happy to go to the records offices. You can be involved as much or as little as you want to be. Offering very general look ups will result in more requests than if you offer to do look ups for one specific parish for example. If you volunteer but then find that it is taking more of your time than you imagined, just drop me a line and we can either amend what requests you will accept, limit the number or take you off the list... nothing is set in stone! Why not volunteer and give it a try! If you would like to volunteer but are concerned about having your email address publicly available, then I have a solution to that too (thanks Lynne!). Just drop me a line off list. I do hope that you find this new site helpful to you in your research. Any comments, criticisms or suggestions are all welcome... off list please. Best Regards, Ailsa Admin - Lancs. Look Up Exchange

Hello again I haven't seen a reply from anyone else on the list, so hope that you will find the following of use. I've looked at Ancestry again - the image is unclear, but it looks to me like 6b 332. If you apply to the local registrar for a copy of the certificate, you don't need to quote the reference number at all. They just need to know the full name and quarter (although any additional info you can offer, such as parents' names, is welcome). Once again, the Genuki site is very helpful - http://cheshirebmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/index.html - lists all the registration districts and if you follow the one you're interested in it will give phone number for you to contact whichever registar now holds the Penkridge records. They are usually very helpful on the phone. Have you tried looking at www.ancestry.co.uk for the BMD indexes? As I am a subscriber, my computer automatically puts my password etc in, so I dont know how it works for non-members, but I've been told you can access the records and images for free. Good luck Janet C >From: stephengenuki@tinfoil.cotse.net >Reply-To: stephengenuki@tinfoil.cotse.net, eng-lan-fylde@rootsweb.com >To: Janet C <eng-lan-fylde@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [FYLDE] [ENG-LAN-FYLDE] GRO index 1884 Q3 >Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:02:05 +0100 > > > I've checked the third quarter 1884 births on Ancestry, but can't see >your > > Thomas Evans. > > >Hello, > >I'm sorry for causing you inconvenience, I've made a terrible mess of >things! > >I was rushing to send the e-mail before I went to work this morning >and consequently missed out the fact that it was a birth certificate >and missed the fact that I had typed the wrong date! I'm very sorry to >have sent you all looking on a wild goose chase. > >Thomas Evans was another relation but I am actually looking for the >birth of Frederick Evans. I downloaded the image off 1837 and it is in >the third quarter of 1858. I am so very sorry I gave the wrong name; I >haven't got a clue where the 1884 came from! > >I hope to go to the library this weekend but if anyone can check >before then, it is definitely Frederick and definitely 1858. I >apologise again for being totally wrong in my previous e-mail! > >Rather that you spend your time looking for me, let me look myself. If >you could tell me how to view these on ancestry I could look for >things myself in the future, without having to confuse the people >reading this list! > >Thanks, >Stephen. > >

> I've checked the third quarter 1884 births on Ancestry, but can't see your > Thomas Evans. Hello, I'm sorry for causing you inconvenience, I've made a terrible mess of things! I was rushing to send the e-mail before I went to work this morning and consequently missed out the fact that it was a birth certificate and missed the fact that I had typed the wrong date! I'm very sorry to have sent you all looking on a wild goose chase. Thomas Evans was another relation but I am actually looking for the birth of Frederick Evans. I downloaded the image off 1837 and it is in the third quarter of 1858. I am so very sorry I gave the wrong name; I haven't got a clue where the 1884 came from! I hope to go to the library this weekend but if anyone can check before then, it is definitely Frederick and definitely 1858. I apologise again for being totally wrong in my previous e-mail! Rather that you spend your time looking for me, let me look myself. If you could tell me how to view these on ancestry I could look for things myself in the future, without having to confuse the people reading this list! Thanks, Stephen.

Hi Stephen I've checked the third quarter 1884 births on Ancestry, but can't see your Thomas Evans. Genuki says that the Penkridge registration district was abolished in 1877 and succeeded by Cannock district. I can't see a Thomas Evans listed for Cannock in that quarter either. Could you confirm that it is definitely the September Quarter of 1884 you are looking at? [this from Genuki site]:- PENKRIDGE REGISTRATION DISTRICT Registration County : Staffordshire. Created : 1.7.1837. Abolished : 1.4.1877 (succeeded by Cannock district). best wishes Janet C >From: stephengenuki@tinfoil.cotse.net >Reply-To: stephengenuki@tinfoil.cotse.net, eng-lan-fylde@rootsweb.com >To: Janet C <eng-lan-fylde@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [FYLDE] [ENG-LAN-FYLDE] GRO index 1884 Q3 >Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:43:25 +0100 > > > You don't say whether this is a birth, marriage or death you are looking >for > >Oops sorry! It's a birth. I need the certificate to find his mother's >name. > >Thanks. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > EXTREMELY USEFUL SITES: >~~ Lancashire pages: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/ >~~ Lancashire Family History & Heraldry Society: http://www.lfhhs.org.uk/ >~~ Manchester & Lancashire FHS: www.mlfhs.org.uk >~~ Lancashire Parish Register Society: >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/lprs/ >~~ Liverpool & SW Lancs FHS: www.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-LAN-FYLDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> You don't say whether this is a birth, marriage or death you are looking for Oops sorry! It's a birth. I need the certificate to find his mother's name. Thanks.

More useful sites garnered from this week's RootsWeb Review: RootsWeb's Weekly E-zine 16 August 2006, Vol. 9, No. 33: >UK Censuses. Help with census of the United Kingdom > http://www.rootsweb.com/~dnkcen/FAQ/uk-census.html > and >WorldCat: Best Thing Since Sliced Bread <snip> > >It's FREE and simple >to use. Just type in a book name or author and it shows which library >holds that book. http://www.worldcat.org/ > Note: Not all library systems are searched. The library has to be a member of OCLC library cooperative. Unfortunately, my community library is not. :-( Lynne

An interesting site for those tracing ancestors in the military, noted in yesterday's RootsWeb Review: RootsWeb's Weekly E-zine 16 August 2006, Vol. 9, No. 33: >Land Forces of Britain, the Empire and Commonwealth: Each national page >collates Internet links about the nation's military history in about 16 >categories. The biography and regiments sections are of especial >interest to genealogists. > http://www.regiments.org/nations/ > Lynne

Hello Stephen The GRO Indices are available on Ancestry (and I understood they were available for viewing free of charge, but may be mistaken about this, perhaps someone else will confirm). You don't say whether this is a birth, marriage or death you are looking for - I've had a quick look on Ancestry (I'm a subscriber), but can't see what you're after. Maybe someone else will be able to help. Good luck! Janet C >From: stephengenuki@tinfoil.cotse.net >Reply-To: stephengenuki@tinfoil.cotse.net, eng-lan-fylde@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-LAN-FYLDE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ENG-LAN-FYLDE] GRO index 1884 Q3 >Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:22:46 +0100 > >Hello, > >If anyone is looking at the GRO indicies please could you look at Q3 >for 1884 under the name "Thomas Evans". It appears at the top of the >list on 1837, so I assume it is the first entry on the microfiche. The >copy I have viewed online at 1837 says "Penkridge, 6b xxx" and the >number is unreadable. Can anyone see what it is? Is there a better >site on the internet to view gro indices? > >Thanks, >Stephen. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-LAN-FYLDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, If anyone is looking at the GRO indicies please could you look at Q3 for 1884 under the name "Thomas Evans". It appears at the top of the list on 1837, so I assume it is the first entry on the microfiche. The copy I have viewed online at 1837 says "Penkridge, 6b xxx" and the number is unreadable. Can anyone see what it is? Is there a better site on the internet to view gro indices? Thanks, Stephen.

I wondered why my Norton Anti Spam was sending my rootsweb messages to the Anti Spam folder. Good job I checked before deleting them. I have now remedied the situation and should receive rootsweb mail as normal. Regards Barbara at Fleetwood

Barbara Whiteside wrote: >I wondered why my Norton Anti Spam was sending my rootsweb messages to the Anti Spam folder. <snip> > Well, that's not good. Glad you found the messages! I wonder if that's happening to others and that's why this list has been so quiet. Best wishes, Lynne

Dear Listers, As you have read, RootsWeb is preparing to migrate all mailing lists to a new list management system. There is no action required on your part. When the list is migrated to the new software ("Mailman," which is familiar to some of you already) there will only be a few little things that may affect you: - Your current subscriptions will remain. If you are currently subscribed in Digest mode, you will continue to be subscribed to the Digest, and if you are currently subscribed in List mode, you'll continue to be subscribed in List mode, BUT (there's always a but!) you will no longer be able to receive both the Digest AND the List versions at the same e-mail address. If you are currently subscribed to both Digest and List mode with the same address, you will only continue to be subscribed to regular List delivery when the list is migrated. If you want to continue to receive messages in Digest mode, you will have to subscribe to the Digest with a different address. (If you want to be subbed in both modes, but don't have an alternate e-mail address, I'll be happy to send you an invitation to Google mail. Just contact me off list.) - You can choose to drop the “-L” in the list email address when sending messages to the list. That means messages sent to ENG-LAN-FYLDE@rootsweb.com will be sent directly to the list. Sending a message to ENG-LAN-FYLDE-L@rootsweb.com <mailto:Eng-Manchester-L@rootsweb.com> will also continue to work. - You can unsubscribe from either List or Digest mode by sending your “unsubscribe” message to a single address: ENG-LAN-FYLDE-request@rootsweb.com. - You can use either ENG-LAN-FYLDE-L-request@rootsweb.com or ENG-LAN-FYLDE-request@rootsweb.com to subscribe to the regular List delivery. To subscribe to Digest, continue to send your “subscribe” email to ENG-LAN-FYLDE-D-request@rootsweb.com. - The “from” email within the expanded message headers will be different (no “-L”). This may result in some list messages being captured by your “junk” folder and you may need to edit any message filtering system you now use. - The biggest change is to the Digest -- the Digest layout, volume and issue numbers will change. The first digest you receive once the migration is complete will be in plain text. If you don't like the way the digest looks and want it to revert to something close to the old format, please contact me privately off list and I'll tweak a setting for you. Easy peasy. ;-) The Manchester list participated in beta testing of the new list management software and lived to tell about it. <g> If you're also a subscriber to that list, you know that the impact of the change was minimal. I don't know exactly when the list will be changed to the new system, but expect it to happen within the next 24 hours. Watch this space! With thanks and best wishes, Lynne

Henry, I may have a picture of the above Church in one of the many old photograph books that I have. I will look through them and check and I find one I can scan a copy for you. I am not sure if the Library would be able to do this, copyright etc. Olive

On Aug 7, 2006, at 22:57, olive wrote: > I have found a modern day picture of the Church, will send this as > an attachment. Thank you for that, Olive. I did see the modern building when in Blackpool last year but I would love to get hold of a picture of what the Chapel was like in 1924.... Don't suppose you have one, do you? Or do you think the Library would have an image of it? Henry

Henry, I have found a modern day picture of the Church, will send this as an attachment. If anyone wants a copy, just email. I will have a look through my old pictures of Blackpool for the older building. The old Church building was a typical Methodist style building. Olive

On Aug 7, 2006, at 18:01, olive wrote: > 25.9.1899 New Central Methodist Church Adelaide Street Blackpool, > the date being the first entry in the marriage register. Seems a > bit odd given your date, but then my information could be incorrect. > > However it must be the same Church. The Church now is built up > above the shops and they have services and coffee etc. served to > shoppers. > > There is a photograph in one of the books of old Blackpool > photographs. My parents were married at this Wesleyan Methodist chapel in 1924. It is described on their marriage cert,. as Wesleyan Chapel, Hounds Hill & Adelaide Street, Blackpool and Joseph Whitehead was the 'Authourised person for the aforesaid Chapel' I would be certainly interested in obtaining a photo of the chapel, as it was in the 1920s if anyone should have one. Henry