Thanks Lynne. I will try out your suggestion. By the way I managed to soft-talk the Blackpool Registry Office on the telephone into confirming from the register that the Fylde marriage did not fit my criteria. I don`t think I could have done that with a bigger office. Gerard

Whoops! Forgot the URL for the THEATRE list: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/UK/THEATRE-UK.html Best wishes, Lynne

Hi Gerard You wrote: > I am a new subscriber living in Buckinghamshire researching in Liverpool where all my >father`s family came from. However, I have a black and white studio photograph of a >great-aunt Mollie ( Mary Agnes BOYLE born in 1904) wearing a theatrical costume which >could be of Little Red Riding Hood. She looks about 20 ( give or take). The photo is endorsed >"Geo.Lord. St Annes". Mollie was born in Liverpool and brought up there. I would guess that >she would not have appeared in an amateur production so far from Liverpool and that >perhaps she was on stage in a pantomime in Blackpool as a professional actress. Has >anybody who knows about the history of shows in Blackpool any ideas for further researches >I could make? > > I know that a Mary A.BOYLE married a man named FISH in the December quarter 1924 in >the Fylde district. I suppose no-one has access to records to show whether the A stands for >Agnes? You might try the THEATRE-UK list to see if anyone there is knowlegeable about Blackpool productions. You could also try posting on the Topics > Occupations > Theater message board. Hope that helps a little! Best wishes, Lynne

On 10/15/06, KILCOYELS@aol.com <KILCOYELS@aol.com> wrote: > Hi > > I have now got the photos of Ash Street that I requested a while back. > > Just spent a brilliant four days in Blackpool meeting the Higgin family > that I didnt know I had. Seems I had been living close to them all the time I > was living in Blackpool and didnt know. A very tardy response . . . Jacqui, that's great news! Isn't it funny (peculiar, not ha ha) that you had lived so close to them? It's like those shows on tv where siblings are reunited, only to find out that they went to school together, etc. Best wishes, Lynne

I am a new subscriber living in Buckinghamshire researching in Liverpool where all my father`s family came from. However, I have a black and white studio photograph of a great-aunt Mollie ( Mary Agnes BOYLE born in 1904) wearing a theatrical costume which could be of Little Red Riding Hood. She looks about 20 ( give or take). The photo is endorsed "Geo.Lord. St Annes". Mollie was born in Liverpool and brought up there. I would guess that she would not have appeared in an amateur production so far from Liverpool and that perhaps she was on stage in a pantomime in Blackpool as a professional actress. Has anybody who knows about the history of shows in Blackpool any ideas for further researches I could make? I know that a Mary A.BOYLE married a man named FISH in the December quarter 1924 in the Fylde district. I suppose no-one has access to records to show whether the A stands for Agnes? Gerard

Hi Trying to find in the 1851 census Eaves\Eves family ,found in the 1841 census in Preston,1861 in Thornton Poulton Fydle 1871,81 ,91 1901 Liverpool Luke Eaves head 1811 Nanny 1801or Nancy wife Jenny dau 1834,Richard son Bricklayer 1836,Isabelle dau 1839 a gap of 10 years Joseph 1848 son Bricklayer I have a birth cert of Joseph Eaves 15Jan1843 Nancy Dewhurst mother living at Avenham Lane Preston occupation porter,the Luke in the census is a brick;layer lab. All my information still points to being born in 1848,is it possible there is another Joseph Eaves of Luke & Nanny Les R

Hi Les LancsBMD website has another two Joseph Eaves births within the period you are talking about:- Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1850 EAVES Joseph Poulton-le-Fylde Blackpool PLF/8/58 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1851 EAVES Joseph Poulton-le-Fylde Blackpool PLF/8/91 and FreeBMD also has a couple more:- Joseph Eaves 1846 Apr-May-Jun Preston Lancashire Joseph Eves 1849 Jan-Feb-Mar Preston Lancashire It's possible (though not probable) that there's another Joseph born to a Luke & Nancy Eaves - are you sure the date on your certificate reads 1843 and not a badly written 1848? Did you get the certificate recently or is it an original? Also, if wife Nancy was born in 1801, she'd be rather old if she had Joseph in 1848. I can't see the family in 1851, but maybe someone else will have better luck. Best wishes Janet C >From: "Les" <18315251@imagine.ie> >Hi >Trying to find in the 1851 census Eaves\Eves family ,found in the 1841 >census in Preston,1861 in Thornton Poulton Fydle 1871,81 ,91 1901 >Liverpool >Luke Eaves head 1811 Nanny 1801or Nancy wife Jenny dau 1834,Richard son >Bricklayer 1836,Isabelle dau 1839 a gap of 10 years Joseph 1848 son >Bricklayer >I have a birth cert of Joseph Eaves 15Jan1843 Nancy Dewhurst mother living >at Avenham Lane Preston occupation porter,the Luke in the census is a >brick;layer lab. >All my information still points to being born in 1848,is it possible there >is another Joseph Eaves of Luke & Nanny >Les R _________________________________________________________________ The new Windows Live Toolbar helps you guard against viruses http://toolbar.live.com/?mkt=en-gb

Dear Listers, An awful lot of messages are being blocked because they contain HTML. :-( Please remember that RootsWeb's computers cannot forward mail to the list unless it is in plain text. If you're not sure how to set your e-mail program to create messages in plain text, this page may help: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/listadmins/plaintext.html Best wishes, Lynne

Hi Carol You wrote: > I'm Carol from the Pacific Northwest of U.S. close to Canada. My interest is with the surname CURWEN, living in the Blackpool area. > I have traced back as far as > > Robert CURWEN born~1821 > wife > Isabella MILLER-CURWEN born ~1820 > > On 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871 Census these children are listed at various times, but it's hard for me to believe they are all from the same two parents. Plus there are two James'. The names Robert and Isabella remain constant. > > James b.~1839 > Henry b.~1840 (this is my great grandfather) > Margaret b.~1843 > William b.~1846 > Anna b.~1847 > Ellen b. ~1850 > Mary b. ~1855 > John b. ~1857 > Agnes b. ~1860 > James b.~1863 > > So, I'm looking to go in both directions in time. Are there any descendents currently living in the Blackpool area? > Also, any information of parentage of Robert or Isabella. If available, the marriage cert of Robert and Isabella will give you the fathers' names and locations. This entry from FreeBMD looks like a possibility: Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1838 BRADE Mary Fylde 21 207 COLLEY Sarah Fylde 21 207 COWEL Betty Fylde 21 207 * CURRAN Robert Fylde 21 207 Gregson John Fylde 21 207 * Miller Isabella Fylde 21 207 SLATER William Fylde 21 207 WALSH Richard Fylde 21 207 Not sure why it's hard to believe all the children are from the same parents -- Isabella would have been around 19 at the birth of her first child and around 43 at the birth of her last, which doesn't seem extraordinary -- but you could always obtain birth certs to confirm the parents. As for two James, they may be cousins. It's also possible they are Robert and Isabella's, but that one died and the next baby was given the same name. There are a few James that died before 1863 in the same area. Not much help, but I hope this has at least given you a little food for thought. Best wishes, Lynne

Hi I have now got the photos of Ash Street that I requested a while back. Just spent a brilliant four days in Blackpool meeting the Higgin family that I didnt know I had. Seems I had been living close to them all the time I was living in Blackpool and didnt know. Jacqui Kilcoyne

I'm Carol from the Pacific Northwest of U.S. close to Canada. My interest is with the surname CURWEN, living in the Blackpool area. I have traced back as far as Robert CURWEN born~1821 wife Isabella MILLER-CURWEN born ~1820 On 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871 Census these children are listed at various times, but it's hard for me to believe they are all from the same two parents. Plus there are two James'. The names Robert and Isabella remain constant. James b.~1839 Henry b.~1840 (this is my great grandfather) Margaret b.~1843 William b.~1846 Anna b.~1847 Ellen b. ~1850 Mary b. ~1855 John b. ~1857 Agnes b. ~1860 James b.~1863 So, I'm looking to go in both directions in time. Are there any descendents currently living in the Blackpool area? Also, any information of parentage of Robert or Isabella.

Today's RootsWeb Review mentions this site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~stonemen/ - "Directory of the stonemasons, quarrymen, builders, carpenters, plasterers of the West Country with more than 56,000 names and bios." As it states on the site, "You will find lots of 'strays' here." It's a difficult site to search, but I did find some Lancashire names mentioned. Maybe you'll get lucky! Best wishes, Lynne

October and future events in or relevant to Lancashire To receive information about all England events, join the Eng-Gen-Events list. See http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-GEN-EVENTS.html ==================================== 7 October THE MOURHOLME LOCAL HISTORY SOCIETY & LANCASHIRE LOCAL HISTORY FEDERATION "At Home" 2006, the Village Hall, Borwick, Near Carnforth. See http://lancashirehistory.mysite.orange.co.uk/LLHFAtHome.pdf ============ 10 October 7:30 pm - HORWICH HERITAGE, "Old Bolton" - guest speaker: Peter Nightingale, Horwich Resource Centre, Horwich. See http://www.horwichheritage.co.uk/meetings.htm ============ 11 October 12:15 pm - 1:00 pm - BURY MUSEUM & ARCHIVES, Introduction to Archives talk, Moss Street, Bury. See http://www.bury.gov.uk/Events/Events.asp 2:00 pm - WALKDEN LOCAL HISTORY GROUP, "Building the Big Ditch" by Glen Atkinson with glass slides of the construction of the Manchester Ship Canal, Guild Hall, Guild Avenue, Walkden, Salford. See http://www.salford.gov.uk/talks-event.htm?id=1483 ============ 14 October LIVERPOOL & SW LANCASHIRE FHS Eighteenth Annual Conference, 30th Aniversary, The Gateway Centre, Warrington. See http://www.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/Events.htm 10:30 am - 4:00pm - ROMANY & TRAVELER FHS Open Day, Devon Record Office, Great Moor House, Bittern Road, Exeter. See http://www.rtfhs.org.uk/ ============ 17 October 7:30 pm - WIGAN FAMILY & LOCAL HISTORY SOCIETY, "Underground Canals," Springfield Hotel, Springfield, Wigan. See http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/familyhistory/meetings.php?opt=b ============ 21 October 10 am to 4 pm - INSTITUTE OF LOCAL & FAMILY HISTORY, University of Central Lancashire, Study day: Reading old handwriting. Email locfamhistory@uclan.ac.uk ============ 22 October 12:30 pm to 6 pm - The RIMMER FHS will be holding its Annual Reunion at the Fleetwood Hesketh Sports & Social Club, Fylde Road, Marshside, Southport, Lancashire. See http://www.rimmerreviewonline.com 8:00 pm - JEWISH HISTORICAL SOCIETY OF ENGLAND, Manchester Branch, Mike Savage, M.A.: The Enigma of Theresienstadt - "The University over the Abyss," Manchester Jewish Museum, 190 Cheetham Hill Road, Manchester M8 8LW. E-mail Manchester@jhse.org or phone 0161 740 6403 for further details. ============ 29 October 10 am to 5 pm - Liverpool Family History Fair, Aintree Racecourse, Liverpool. See http://members.aol.com/aquarterma/ainfly.jpg 10:30 am - Liverpool Irish Festival 2006, The Institute of Irish Studies, University of Liverpool, Guided Coach Tour of Irish Famine and Heritage Sites In the City of Liverpool. See http://www.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/Events.htm ==================================== FUTURE EVENTS: 12 November 8 pm - JEWISH HISTORICAL SOCIETY OF ENGLAND, Manchester Branch, Dr Alan CROSBY: "What Tales a Coin Might Tell ?” Manchester Jewish Museum, 190 Cheetham Hill Road, Manchester M8 8LW. E-mail Manchester@jhse.org or phone 0161 740 6403 for further details. 14 November 7:30 pm - HORWICH HERITAGE, 'Law & Order Since the Middle Ages', Guest Speaker: Fred Holcroft , Horwich Resource Centre, Horwich. See http://www.horwichheritage.co.uk/meetings.htm 18 November 10.00 am to 4.00 pm - HISTORIC SOCIETY OF LANCASHIRE & CHESHIRE Study Day with four speakers "The Family in the North West of England ," University of Central Lancashire, Preston. See http://www.hslc.org.uk/events.php?section=17&type=text 19 November 11 am to 4 pm - SALFORD LOCAL HISTORY and Family Fun Day, Salford Museum and Art Gallery, Peel Park, The Crescent, Salford. See http://www.salford.gov.uk/leisure/museums.htm

From "Your Family History" magazine comes this book announcement: "Life on the Lancaster Canal" by Janet Rigby Landy Publishing, ISBN 187289562 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I apologize if I sent anyone on a wild goose chase. I omitted a number from the ISBN. Oops! <blush> The ISBN number should be 1872895662 Sorry about that! (and thanks, Pam!) Best wishes, Lynne

From "Your Family History" magazine comes this book announcement: "Life on the Lancaster Canal" by Janet Rigby Landy Publishing, ISBN 187289562 "The Lancaster canal, from Kendal to Preston, was the M6 of the 18th century. Here Jane Rigby traces its history and lives of the people who worked on it. "This little book explored various families (ROBINSONS, BAINES and NEEDHAMS) and provides an interesting general record of this waterway, which only joined the national canal system in 2003." I have not read the book, but it sounds interesting. :-) Best wishes, Lynne

Hi Les, With ref to Janet C's email regarding the Eaves family, the area in 1861/71 is Trunnah, Thornton. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet C" <jancee52@hotmail.com> To: <eng-lan-fylde@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [FYLDE] Eaves > Hi Les > I've had a good look at the 1851 for your family, but haven't had much > success. I can see them in 1861 and 1871 living in Trunnall, Thornton, so > I > had a look at that district in 1851 too. They aren't there, but there is > another Eaves family living in that district in 1851 - Robert and Agnes, > with their children and Robert's brother John. I wonder if they might be > related to yours, as it's not a very common name round there. > By the way, when you said they were living at Back Tdyfle Rd Preston in > 1861, I think you meant 1841. I've had a look at this image too, and I > think it says Bk Fylde Rd, which would make more sense! > Sorry not to have been able to help you. Maybe someone else can. > Janet C > > >>From: "Joseph Rowlands" <18315251@imagine.ie> >>As anyone the 1851 census for Preston looking for EAVES or EVES family >>head Luke born1810 Nanny wife Richard 1836 Jenny 1833,Isabella 1839 Joesph >>1848 2or 3 >>Les in 1861 living Back Tdyfle Rd Preston >>Les >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > EXTREMELY USEFUL SITES: > ~~ Lancashire pages: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/ > ~~ Lancashire Family History & Heraldry Society: http://www.lfhhs.org.uk/ > ~~ Manchester & Lancashire FHS: www.mlfhs.org.uk > ~~ Lancashire Parish Register Society: > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/lprs/ > ~~ Liverpool & SW Lancs FHS: www.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk > > > The list administrator can be reached at ENG-LAN-FYLDE-admin@RootsWeb.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LAN-FYLDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Les I've had a good look at the 1851 for your family, but haven't had much success. I can see them in 1861 and 1871 living in Trunnall, Thornton, so I had a look at that district in 1851 too. They aren't there, but there is another Eaves family living in that district in 1851 - Robert and Agnes, with their children and Robert's brother John. I wonder if they might be related to yours, as it's not a very common name round there. By the way, when you said they were living at Back Tdyfle Rd Preston in 1861, I think you meant 1841. I've had a look at this image too, and I think it says Bk Fylde Rd, which would make more sense! Sorry not to have been able to help you. Maybe someone else can. Janet C >From: "Joseph Rowlands" <18315251@imagine.ie> >As anyone the 1851 census for Preston looking for EAVES or EVES family >head Luke born1810 Nanny wife Richard 1836 Jenny 1833,Isabella 1839 Joesph >1848 2or 3 >Les in 1861 living Back Tdyfle Rd Preston >Les > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

In a message dated 03/10/2006 10:53:50 GMT Daylight Time, jb001f2280@blueyonder.co.uk writes: it says Bk Fylde Rd, which would make more sense! > Sorry not to have been able to help you. Maybe someone else can. > Janet C In 1851 there is an Eaves family living in Preston at 36 High Street. Joseph 44 Shoemaker born Poulton le Fylde Margaret 43 Born Blackburn Jane daughter 24 Power loom weaver Mary daughter 21 Power loom weaver James son 17 Tin Plate Worker Isabella daughter 14 Power loom weaver Margaret daughter 10 Schoolgirl Luke son 4. Hope this helps Jacqui Kilcoyne

First message As anyone the 1851 census for Preston looking for EAVES or EVES family head Luke born1810 Nanny wife Richard 1836 Jenny 1833,Isabella 1839 Joesph 1848 2or 3 Les in 1861 living Back Tdyfle Rd Preston Les

Dear Listers, If the article in Deseret Morning News (see http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,650194998,00.html.) is to be believed, it sounds like FamilySearch.org will soon be undergoing some interesting and exciting changes. Best wishes, Lynne