Yes I have access to the film Carol, but I'm sorry I can't offer lookups. There is a big problem, namely, no index or anything like that. Hence, names have to be painstakingly searched for under each church by starting at the beginning and continuing to the end. Not a happy prospect if there are several eager Listers requesting information, especially if the names turn out not to be there after all!! I will see if I can give some examples of the information on the film in a few days and this will help others to decide if they want to look at the film themselves. It might be worth pointing out though that, particularly for St Mark's which I concentrated on, there were three unexpected bonuses that helped me a good deal. They were 1/ In some cases, brief one-line street addresses or the place name where the grave owner lived, or where individuals who were interred had been living, had been pencilled in. 2/ I found that the full names of one particular ancestor of mine were written and provided an unknown given name ( not even shown on her birth or marriage certificates!) that enabled me to identify her maternal grandmother (from 100s of miles away in Scotland) with certainty. 3/ Sometimes, not all those interred in a grave had the same surname. This again helped me to link individuals and families and made me sure of some information that had only previously been a possibility. It seems to me that this type of unexpected information is what gets us through those brick walls. Best regards, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol, TreeTops" <tree.tops@virgin.net> To: <ENG-LAN-ECCLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [ECCLES] Re:monumental inscriptions etc > -----Original Message----- > From: mikehal <mikehal@blueyonder.co.uk> > > >Hello Carol / List, I'm not sure how much of this thread I have missed, but > >just in case no one else has pointed out the following, I will do so. > >LDS film 1786241 contains monumental inscriptions (1800-1900) for Barton > Wesleyan Chapel and for George St. Patricroft Independent Cemetery plus > similar records + burials for several other churches in the immediate area. > > > Thanks for this info Mike, don't suppose you have access to the film do you. > Sure we would all like some info from it. > Carol > > ______________________________

M.I.'s Eccles Parish Church 526 Sacred to the memory of Orlando DAWSON, who departed this life 31st December 1856 aged 57 years. Ellen, wife of Orlando DAWSON, who died June 21st 1847 aged 47 years. Elizabeth, daughter of Orlando & Ellen DAWSON of Winton, who departed this life September 13th 1827 aged 8 months. Samuel DAWSON of Monton, who died Janaury 5th 1868 aged 58 years. (No.16) Regards, Carol - List Owner

M.I.'s Eccles Parish Church 502 In memory of John CLEGG, who departed this life July 19th 1879 aged 78 years. Also Elizabeth, wife of John CLEGG of Oak Bank, Pendleton, who departed this life January 13th 1835 in the 23rd year of her age. Also Elizabeth STEWART, second wife of the above John CLEGG, who departed this life March 15th 1850 aged 38 years. Also Harriet Ann his daughter and wife of George FIELDING, who departed this life May 9th 1866 aged 34 years. Regards, Carol - List Owner

M.I.'s Eccles Parish Church 144 In memory of Thomas WROE, who departed this life February 9th 1833 aged 65 years. Also Mary, wife of Thomas WROE, who departed this life March 6th 1844 in the 86th year of her age. Also Tamar, their daughter and wife of Robert HOLDEN, who departed this life 28th August 1846 aged 45 years. 2352 In memory of James SHAW, who departed this life March 4th .... aged 59 years. "....... rest for the weary." Also ...... .... of James SHAW ............. who departed this life March 16th 1857 aged 29 years................... wife of the above who died December 7th 1912 aged 78 years. .............. wife of Thomas WROE ............ who departed this life..........1866 aged 63 years. (No. 512) 3645 Here resteth the body of Thomas WROE, who departed this life August 1862 aged ... years. Also Rachel, wife of Thomas WROE of Eccles, who departed this life November 9 1776 aged 35 years. Also Mary Bayley WROE, wife of Thomas WROE, who died November 5th 1823 aged 26 years. 3904 Here resteth the body of Peter WROE of Eccles, who departed this life 30 March 1813 in the 76th year of his age. Margaret, wife of Peter WROE, died 3 July 1762 aged 23. Mary, daughter of above, died 4 March 1761, 3 months. Margaret, died 18th February 1763, 7 months. Regards, Carol - List Owner

M.I.'s Eccles Parish Church 503 GREGORY: In memory of James GREGORY who departed this life September 30th 1847 aged 57 years. Martha, daughter of James & Elizabeth GREGORY of Monton, who departed this life July 7th 1833 aged 16 years. Also Ann, their daughter and wife of Edmund SIMESTER, who departed this life June 24th 1839 aged 24 years. 1145 GREGORY: Here resteth the body of Eliza daughter of William & Mary GREGORY Jnr who died February 4th 1835 aged 3 years. 1146 GREGORY: Here resteth the body of Martha, wife of James GREGORY, who departed this life September 11th 1780 aged 28 years. Also Mary, his wife, who departed this life August 31st 1797 in the 50th year of her age. Also of James POLLITT of Salford who departed this life August 2nd 1822 aged 44 years. 1181 GREGORY: Here was buried the body of Joseph GREGORY of Salford, who departed this life April 9th 1800 aged 54 years. Also Mary, wife of Joseph GREGORY of Salford, who departed this life July 35th 1777 aged 30 years. Also John, their son, died June 22nd 1767. Also Martha, their daughter, died March 11th 1773. Also William, their son, died August 23rd 1776. Also Joseph, their son died October 5th 1777. Also Rachel, his wife, died October the 19th 1791 aged 60. 1473 GREGORY: In memory of John GREGORY of Eccles, who departed this life March 31st 1865 aged 63 years. Also Eliza, wife of John GREGORY of Eccles, who died December 19th 1853 aged 46 years. Also EMMA daughter of John & Eliza GREGORY who died January 1st 1848 aged 2 years and 7 months. Also Edward, their son who died May 9th 1860 aged 25 years and 8 months. Also Emily, their daughter, who died 20th August 1866 aged 17 years. No.190 3412 Marey GREGORY died April the 25th 1810. Also Joseph GREGORY who died November 14th 1846 aged 73 years. Also Ellen GREGORY, his wife, who died August 1st 1847 aged 69 years. (X) Regards, Carol - List Owner

M.I.'s Eccles Parish Church 2798 "In hope of a Blessed Resurrection." Here was interred the body of Robert COOKE late of Worsley, Gentleman, August 1729 aged 54. Also Mary, his wife, June 1766 aged 87. Also William, their son, February 25th 1702. Also James, their son, January 26th 1706. Also John, their son, March 19th 1711. Also Robert, their son, May 6th 1732 aged 24. Also James, their son, January 1777 aged 18. Also Madelene, daughter, October 1717 aged 6. Also Sarah, their daughter, January 7th 1783 aged 61. Regards, Carol - List Owner

M.I.'s Eccles Parish Church 703 Sacred to the memory of Hugh WORTHINGTON of Eccles, who departed this life July 23rd 1831 aged 48 years. Also Martha, his wife, who departed this life July 27th 1833 aged 50 years. Also William, their son, who departed this life April 26th 1860 aged 46 years. Also M.... RATCLIFFE, daughter of the above Martha WORTHINGTON, who departed this life March 27th 1859 aged 55 years. (HUGH WORTHINGTON of Eccles No. 174) Regards, Carol - List Owner

M.I.'s Eccles Parish Church 1052 Sacred to the memory of James BIRCH of Pendlebury, who died September 14th 1871 in his 72nd year. Also of Mary, wife of James BIRCH of Pendlebury who departed this life November 6th 1846 aged 46 years. Also John, their son, who departed this life February 17th 1859 aged 32 years. Lavinia, their daughter, who departed this life December 27th 1860 aged 30 years. Also Peter NEWTON, who departed this life December 14th 1872 aged 72 years. (No.19) Regards, Carol - List Owner

Hi all, Next follow some inscriptions from Eccles Parish Church. I do not have a lot of these. They are in very big books in Salford Library and you usually only get two to a page. On photocopying mine I have also got a copy of somebody elses. Checking the surnames already sent to me I did the same search on these inscriptions. Hope they help somebody. Regards, Carol - List Owner (Tree Tops) FAMILY TREE & WE’LL MEET AGAIN - Free Query Service: SKY NEWS British TV Text Pages 267 & 268, http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops/ http://freespace.virgin.net/treetops.indexes/ http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections

How about writing to >The Advertiser,>Church St>Eccles>M 30 0DF >>This is the local paper >>>> Now there's a good idea. does anybody get this newspaper. My deputy and I have this strange 'hobby' of collecting the Family Announcements pages from modern day Newspapers. I started it in 1992 just collecting from my local paper, Julie blames me for getting her started in 1999 on her local ones and since then people from all over the country have been sending us envelopes filled with bits of newspapers. Julie even found a bag on her doorstep one day, donor unknown. It has got to the stage that people fetch us newspapers back from holiday instead of a stick of rock The point is that they will be a very useful index for the future, we collect all the birth, marriages and death announcements etc but only index the deceased on the computer, though we do also save other interesting titbits as well, 100th birthday photos, Golden wedding anniversaries etc. Not much of the paper left by the time we have finished with it. Yes we know we are mad and that it will not be of much use in our life time but don't you just wish somebody had done this in the 1800's. So, if anybody gets the Eccles paper and would be willing to donate the Announcement pages they would be eagerly accepted (as would any others) In Hope, Carol - List Owner (Tree Tops) FAMILY TREE & WE’LL MEET AGAIN - Free Query Service: SKY NEWS British TV Text Pages 267 & 268, http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops/ http://freespace.virgin.net/tt.indexes/ http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections

-----Original Message----- From: mikehal <mikehal@blueyonder.co.uk> >Hello Carol / List, I'm not sure how much of this thread I have missed, but >just in case no one else has pointed out the following, I will do so. >LDS film 1786241 contains monumental inscriptions (1800-1900) for Barton Wesleyan Chapel and for George St. Patricroft Independent Cemetery plus similar records + burials for several other churches in the immediate area. Thanks for this info Mike, don't suppose you have access to the film do you. Sure we would all like some info from it. Carol

Hi all, Seems there is another virus doing the rounds. Subject: New e-mail worm: W32/myparty Please do NOT open mail messages with the subject line: new photos from my party! A description of this worm can be found at: http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/myparty.shtml F-secure have released an update available from: ftp://ftp.Europe.F-Secure.com/anti-virus/updates/ and http://www.f-secure.com/download-purchase/updates.shtml and ftp://micros.oucs.ox.ac.uk/sl/fp-pro/update/VERSION5/ Currently Sophos have not released an updated .ide file for this worm. I will let you know as soon as they do. In the meantime do not open mail with the subject line: new photos from my party! Regards, Carol - Joint List Owner (Tree Tops) FAMILY TREE & WE’LL MEET AGAIN - Free Query Service: SKY NEWS British TV Text Pages 267 & 268, http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops/ http://freespace.virgin.net/tt.indexes/ http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections

Carol, Could I possibly ask for any EDWARDS on the monumental inscriptions please. Thank you for all your help, it is much appreciated. The NEWTON entries you listed have been very helpful. Kind regards Lynda Jones Adelaide, South Australia Researching in Eccles - EDWARDS/NEWTON/ROYLE/ WORTHINGTON

Hello Carol / List, I'm not sure how much of this thread I have missed, but just in case no one else has pointed out the following, I will do so. LDS film 1786241 contains monumental inscriptions (1800-1900) for Barton Wesleyan Chapel and for George St. Patricroft Independent Cemetery plus similar records + burials for several other churches in the immediate area. It is very good for St Mark's, Worsley, where I found graves of my ancestors, and St Peter's, Swinton. Those were my main interests. Regards, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol, TreeTops" <tree.tops@virgin.net> To: <ENG-LAN-ECCLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 12:49 PM Subject: [ECCLES] Barton Info > Hi all, > > Following is the information I have on the requested surnames. > > In the transcriptions there was some burial info in brackets within the > inscription, this is included within the transcription. Further burial info > may possibly be on Rogers Web site. > > Take a look at http://www.mancuniensis.btinternet.co.uk/index.htm > > Regards, > Carol - List Owner > (Tree Tops) > FAMILY TREE & WE'LL MEET AGAIN - Free Query Service: > SKY NEWS British TV Text Pages 267 & 268, > http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops/ > http://freespace.virgin.net/tt.indexes/ > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections > > ______________________________

Hi Larry, In the Barton Wesleyan burial ground there are three burial plots with the number 34. Over the last four months a lot of effort has gone into trying to sort out who is buried where. The front graveyard plot number 34 is where your ancestors are buried and the plot has been grassed over. From a list of inscriptions it seems that there is no gravestone, or the gravestone was covered and not recorded. From the developers plans as I remember the front burial ground is to remain grassed over, but there will be a footpath for access to the flats. Hope this is helpful, Roger Hart, Little Lever, Bolton, UK. Web site :- http://www.mancuniensis.btinternet.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: Larry Jones [mailto:lawjones@oz.net] Sent: 28 January 2002 02:45 To: ENG-LAN-ECCLES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ECCLES] Eccles of Eccles

Hi: Below is an outline of my ALLRED family traced back to Eccles Parish in the 1570's. I'm especially interested in Solomon Allred, born 1680, son of John and Ellen Pemberton ALLRED (5th generation). I am hoping to prove he migrated to America in the early 1720's. A Solomon ALLRED is listed on the Chester County, Pennsylvania (West Nottingham township) tax lists for 1724, 1726 and 1730. Could this be the same man? I would love to trade, swap, share info with anyone also working on this family!! Linda Allred Cooper www.allredfamily.org 1st generation John Allred b. abt 1550, Eng married 6 Jun 1572 in Eccles, Lancashire, England to: Joan Drinkwater b. abt 1552, England, bur. 25 Mar 1576 Eccles, Lancashire, England 2nd generation John Allred chr 3 Oct 1571 Eccles, Lancashire, England, buried 20 Mar 1632/33 Eccles parish, [left a will] married 27 May 1589 to: Ann Tailer, widow chr abt 1572, buried Pendleton Poole, Eccles, Lancashire, England 1638 3rd generation William Allred chr 29 Sep 1594 Eccles, Lancashire, England, buried 10 Mar 1660 Eccles parish married 27 Oct 1625 to: Alice Tonge chr 9 Nov 1595 Eccles, Lancashire, England, buried 20 Aug 1660, Eccles parish. 4th generation John Allred b. 26 Mar 1637 Eccles, Lancashire England, married abt 1659 to: Ellen Pemberton, chr. 25 Mar 1638 Eccles, Lancashire, England, died 21 Dec 1684 at Pendleton Poole, Eccles, Lancashire, England and buried at Manchester Quaker Cemetery. John and Ellen Pemberton Allred [or Orred] were purported to have had at least nine children. John, christened the 1st of Nov 1660, Mary christened 9 Aug 1661, William christened 3 Feb 1664/1665, Aaron [listed in some records as Owen] christened abt 1667, Alice born 1670 and buried 20 Feb 1684/5, Phineas christened 7 Nov 1672, Enoch christened 16 Jun 1675, Theophilus christened 4 Oct 1677 and Solomon christened 12 Nov 1680 John and his wife, Ellen Pemberton Allred, were Quakers, both jailed separately for attending Quaker Meetings. The East Hardshaw Meeting [Quaker] states that "Ellin Allrod of Pendleton Pool departed this life ye 21st of ye 10th mo. 1684 and was buried at our burying place," December being the 10th month.

Edmund ECCLES (Labourer, s/o Edmund), d.20 Jul 1878, aged 62y. 1st wife Mary, d.07 Sep 1874 aged 68 years, dau Mary, d.17 Feb 1879 aged 18 months. (No.146) Regards, Carol - List Owner

John DAWSON, Weaver, Davyhulme, died 22nd September 1858 aged 58 years, Typhus Fever. Wife Ann, Handloom weaver, died 2nd July 1881 aged 78 years. Also Esther WILSON, died 9th December 1927 aged 81 years, 129 Haslingden Rd .....? (No 490) Regards, Carol - List Owner

Thomas CLEGG, Commission Agent, Eccles, born 11th October 1838, died at Wilmslow 10th February 1900. Wife Elizabeth Ann, born 6th November 1844, died at Heaton Mersey 10th December 1889 aged 45 years. Son William, died 6th December 1872 aged 19 months. John Grime, father of John, Papermaker, Patricroft, died 16th September 1872 aged 84 years. Wife Mary died 16th April 1870 aged 82 years. Betsy JACKSON, wife of ....... Macclesfield, died 10th November 1896 aged 82 years. Arthur, son of James & Mary CLEGG, Shoemaker, Little Hulton, died 16th August 1877 aged 2 years. (No 653) James Andrew ASHCROFT, died at Akassa, W Coast of Africa on Sunday 9th July 1882 aged 19 years. Also Annie FRANCES, daughter of James Henry, Instructor, Hulme & Frances ASHCROFT, died 4th February 1867 aged 18 months. Also John BLACKSTOCK, died 6th February 1870 aged 61 years, Coachmaker of Manchester, Father of William. Also Thomas Clegg ASHCROFT, brother of the above Annie ASHCROFT, died 11th June 1876 aged 10 months. Also Sybil, daughter of H S & C E RADCLIFFE, Manchester and Grand daughter of J H & C E RADCLIFFE, died 3rd January 1899 aged 8 months. (No 129 Old Yard) Regards, Carol - List Owner

Forwarded Message -----Original Message----- From: Cherryl <Cherryl.B@tesco.net> To: ENG-LAN-ECCLES-L@rootsweb.com <ENG-LAN-ECCLES-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 27 January, 2002 13:38 Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [ECCLES] re Church Street >Hi Jane >I was married in Eccles Parish church but not QUITE so long ago! > >How about writing to >The Advertiser, >Church St >Eccles >M 30 0DF > >This is the local paper and is on the opposite corner from Wilkinsons - that >might be a plus as far as they are concerned - a plea for help might get >results There is a thriving local history society and they might well have >an answer if you think it is of any use you might try writing to them c/o >Eccles Library Eccles M 30 ( sorry can't think of name of road it is on) If >you need any more questions answered just ask (though I am no expert!!) >I could do you a present day picture if you are not in any great hurry! >Cherryl >P s Manchester Evening News >164 Deansgate >Manchester M60 1SL >might try the same tack with them!! >-----Original Message----- >From: Jane Byrne <jhbyrne@ihug.co.nz> >To: ENG-LAN-ECCLES-L@rootsweb.com <ENG-LAN-ECCLES-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: 27 January 2002 04:05 >Subject: [ECCLES] re Church Street > > >> >> >> >>Hi >> >>My name is Jane Byrne and I am interested in 36 Church Street Eccles. >Before it became Wilkinsons, it belonged to Woolworths but before that it >was a butcher's shop belonging to my Grandfather, and my Father was born in >this shop. I am after any information regarding this building or a photo of >it would be great. I have tried Salford History Museum for a photo and they >seem to have everything but.... My Grandfather's name was George Richard >Gibson and he left Eccles in 1916 to go to live in Birkenhead. He was a >Master Butcher as was his father, Thomas, and his father, George. >> >>Thank you >>Jane Byrne Whangarei New Zealand >>jhbyrne@ihug.co.nz >> >> >>==== ENG-LAN-ECCLES Mailing List ==== >>Have you used Tree Tops? >>The Free FAMILY TREE & WE'LL MEET AGAIN SERVICE >>http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops >> >>============================== >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> > >