thank you shiela, its quite likely,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,maggi

hi I am DESPERATELY!!!!!! hoping someone can tell me, just where in BARTON was CROFTSBANK? I have a baptism at ST MARYS ECCLES 1814 this is where they were down as living, I do hope someone can help thank you,,maggi

hi I have a baptisme in 1814 ST MARYS CHURCH ECCLES the birth was given as having taken place at croftsbank barton, PLEASE!!!!!! can anyone tell me just what bit of barton, croftsbank was in ( I have searched on genuki to no avail)) thanks,,,,,,,,maggi

Dear Sheila, Thank you. I look forward to your reply. Regards, Carolyn New York, USA Researching: Lancashire BOWEN, BRAY, BUTLER, PEARCE, POLLARD

Hi Christine I have been in touch with the church secretary of Patricroft United Reformed Church, formerly Patricroft Congregtional Church. There is no graveyard - burials or cremations were at a municipal cemeteries. She is unsure just what records they have but will find out for us ( I think I have some family connections there too) if you can give more details. Can you reply with likely names and the dates for which you are interested. If there are records of the right period I could visit the church to look things up for you as long as there isn't too much to do. Margaret Southern

Message forwarded by List Owner - please do not reply to me. Regards, Carol, (Tree Tops) FAMILY TREE & WE’LL MEET AGAIN - Free Query Service: SKY NEWS British TV Text Pages 267 & 268, http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops/ http://freespace.virgin.net/tt.indexes http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections -----Original Message----- From: pkirk <pkirk@windstead.freeserve.co.uk> To: ENG-LAN-ECCLES-admin@rootsweb.com <ENG-LAN-ECCLES-admin@rootsweb.com> Date: 02 February, 2002 11:50 Subject: HAMER LEE & WILDE families I am looking for details of the above families. Samuel Hamer b 15/03/1815 married Betty b 01/02/1811 d 24/08/1840 They had 3 children Alice b 01/02/1839 Margaret b 11/02/1840 d 13/02/1840 & William b 11/02/1840 d 24/02/1840 Samuel then married Alice b 20/01/1820 d 04/12/1883 There were 5 children to this marriage Joseph b 17/05/1849,William b 20/12/1850, Samuel b 14/04/1853 d 12/03/1856, Margaret b 09/02/1855 d 28/09/1869 & Samuel b 01/03/1860 d 06/05/1869 Joseph Hamer married Mary Wilde (see below) children: Mary Alice b 25/12/1873, Thomas b 11/05/1875, William b 25/05/1877 d 04/05/1879, Ellen b 04/12/1879, Hannah b 12/11/1881 Samuel b 22/10/1883, Margaret Ann b 03/08/1886 & Sarah b 25/10/1888 Margaret Ann Hamer married Ernest Lee their children were: Herbert b 03/01/1907, Marion b 06/01/1909, Elsie b 12/10/1912, Eleanor b 13/02/1918, Bertha b 08/10/1920,Florence b 23/02/1922, Edna b 23/02/1922, Ernest b 16/07/1924 & Phyllis b 29/11/1928 (my mother in law) Thomas Wilde married Ellen children: Mary b 01/06/1843, William b 29/05/1847, Jane b 13/02/1848, Hannah b 05/09/1849, Thomas b 16/01/1851, Susannah b 15/02/1853, Benjamin b 13/03/1855, Ruth b 12/01/1859, Thomas b 26/10/1963 & Martha Jane (Taylor?) b 16/01/1866 I have no details of the LEE line at all. The family lived in Pendlebury / Swinton I believe. I would be grateful for any info Judith Kirk

Could have been Peel Green Cemetery Carolyn or St. Catherine's Church in Barton. Those are the two which spring to mind, there is also Monton Church which has a grave yard. I will check more thoroughly for you when I get home this evening. Cheers Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: <CarolMay5@aol.com> To: <ENG-LAN-ECCLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 12:40 AM Subject: [ECCLES] Cemetery in Winton? > Dear List, > Does SKS know what local cemetery would have been use in the Winton area > around Lincoln Street, Winton, Eccles in 1914? > > > Regards, > Carolyn > New York, USA > > Researching: > Lancashire > BOWEN, BRAY, BUTLER, PEARCE, POLLARD > > > ==== ENG-LAN-ECCLES Mailing List ==== > Have you tried? > C J Genealogical Collections > Web Page http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

WOULD IT BE POSSILBE TO LOOK UP 'COPE' SURNAME. THANKYOU VERY MUCH BARBARA ---- Original Message ---- From: mikehal@blueyonder.co.uk To: ENG-LAN-ECCLES-L@rootsweb.com, Subject: RE: [ECCLES] Barton Wesleyan Chapel monumental inscriptions Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 14:39:26 -0000 >I have now had another chance to look at the LDS film 1786241 that >contains >inscriptions for Barton Chapel as well as several other churches in >the >area. I have found that the inscriptions given for Barton are in >alphabetical order, in contrast to the church that I was particularly >interested in, and so I am willing to have a look for names that any >Listers >may be searching for. It would take me a week or so to respond to any >requests. As an example, I give a copy of an inscription for > >Thomas LUNN (weaver, Patricroft) 28 Dec 1859 aged 76 (died of a >severe burn) >wife Betty 26 Feb 1855 No. 152 > >Regards, Mike > > > > >==== ENG-LAN-ECCLES Mailing List ==== >Have you tried? >C J Genealogical Collections >Web Page http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Dear List, Does SKS know what local cemetery would have been use in the Winton area around Lincoln Street, Winton, Eccles in 1914? Regards, Carolyn New York, USA Researching: Lancashire BOWEN, BRAY, BUTLER, PEARCE, POLLARD

I'm looking for the death for Thomas Blackburn. He died ca. 1851-1858, born 1795-1801 (depending on who you talk to---) His first wife was Alice Bradburn who died in 1834, and his second wife was likely Mary Elliot. I believe some of my Blackburns were married in Barton Wesleyan Chapel, so maybe Thomas is buried there. Only look for him if you have an index, I know you're so busy looking for others' requests. The Eccles Blackburn line is mine---likely all those in Eccles with the surname are my relatives somehow. Any Blackburns there are probably my relation somehow-- Bradley

Hi All, For information and a photo of the Barton Wesleyan Chapel and Graveyard got to the link below. Hurry, I don't know how long it will be available on the net. Roger Hart, Little Lever, Bolton, UK. -----Original Message----- From: ericjeh@netscapeonline.co.uk Sent: 04 February 2002 20:33 To: roger9@btinternet.com Subject: A link from Manchester Online Dear Roger, ERIC J E HEATON (ericjeh@netscapeonline.co.uk) was visiting Manchester Online and thought this story might interest you: http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/news/content.cfm?story=179279&ref=emtaf&ar chive=archive BARTON METHODIST This message was sent using the "Email a Friend" facility on the Manchester Online website. Manchester Online is not responsible for the content of this email.

Hi I would be grateful if you could look on the LDS film to see if there are any of my LOWE family - christian names include Samuel, Annie, Harry, James, Mary Hannah, Clare Annie, Eva, Jessie Gertrude, James Addison, Alice Mary,William, Mary,k George, Herbert, Thomas, Frank, Percy, Gertrude. Also PILLING family - Richard, Sarah, Emma, Annie Elizabeth, Sarah Elizabeth, John, Polly, Frederick. Many thanks Margaret Southern

hiya mike!!! PLEASE!!!!! could you look to see if there are any chadwicks, buried there? thanks,,,,,,,,,maggi

I have now had another chance to look at the LDS film 1786241 that contains inscriptions for Barton Chapel as well as several other churches in the area. I have found that the inscriptions given for Barton are in alphabetical order, in contrast to the church that I was particularly interested in, and so I am willing to have a look for names that any Listers may be searching for. It would take me a week or so to respond to any requests. As an example, I give a copy of an inscription for Thomas LUNN (weaver, Patricroft) 28 Dec 1859 aged 76 (died of a severe burn) wife Betty 26 Feb 1855 No. 152 Regards, Mike

Monumental Inscriptions - Barton Wesleyan Chapel - 1800 - 1900 LDS film No. 1786241 I have just ordered the above film at my local family history centre. When this arrives, I would be only too happy to do look ups for anyone. The film could take either a couple of weeks to arrive or about a month, depending on where it has to come from, either Sydney or Salt Lake City. If anyone would like to start sending me Surnames to look for, I will make a list ready for when the film arrives. Lynda Jones Adelaide South Australia, lyndenjones@bigpond.com Researching in Eccles/Barton on Irwell - EDWARDS - NEWTON - WORTHINGTON - ROYLE

John LOWE, Shop Keeper, Manchester, Brother of JAMES, died 26th August 1869 aged 70 years. Wife Alice, died 26th January 1852 aged 51 years. Second Wife Ann, Sale, died 20th April 1880 aged 65 years. Peggy BARLOW, died 30th March 1856 aged 83 years. Elizabeth ROGERSON died 5th December 1859. (No 69) Regards, Carol - List Owner (Tree Tops) FAMILY TREE & WE’LL MEET AGAIN - Free Query Service: SKY NEWS British TV Text Pages 267 & 268, http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops/ http://freespace.virgin.net/tt.indexes/ http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections

Hi Carol I would be interested to see any inscriptions for the surname LOWE which you have. Thanks Margaret

Can anyone give me information on Patricroft Congregational Church please? Where might I find any records? Is there a grave yard? Thank you Christine Western Australia

Thanks Carol for the information on the HOLKER burial, this is definitely my family .You mention a plan to build flats and a car park on the site of the Barton on Irwell Wesleyan Methodist Chapel. Can you tell me what state the grave yard is in please? And what about the chapel itself? I'm planning on a visit to Manchester in April. Christine Western Australia

Hi All >My deputy and I have this strange 'hobby' of collecting the Family >Announcements pages from modern day Newspapers As Carol has said this is a strange hobby.... I blame Carol completely<VBG>! >The point is that they will be a very useful index for the future..... I agree, The Indexes will be very valuable in the years to come. The information contained within an Obituary, In Memoriam or Remembrance can be a further clue of the next stage of research. An example: I have an In Memoriam that appeared in my local paper in 1999. The In Memoriam pertained to a death in 1949 regarding a member of the Armed Forces. OK, the military record is closed, but the death certificate should be avaliable and if an In Memoriam is being placed in the paper after 50 years then the chances are there was an Obituary placed in the paper in 1949, which will give further details. >......Not much of the paper left by the time we have finished with it. The Recycling chap feels very hard done by! >Yes we know we are mad and that it will not be of much use in our life time >but don't you just wish somebody had done this in the 1800's. Mad, Well, maybe just a little bit!! Once thing though, and I am sure Carol will agree, I am creating an Index for future generations, we might not have an index of papers of the past, but we can certainly leave one for the future. What a wonderful legacy for future generations. Regards Julie Goucher List Deputy anglers.rest@virgin.net http://freespace.virgin.net/ar.indexes http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/cjmlists.htm Fax & Voice Mail (+44) 0870 130 5474 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.317 / Virus Database: 176 - Release Date: 2002-21-Jan