I'm posting an email with regard to the above chapel. If anyone doesn't know already, there are proposals to demolish this church. Hi all, I am just informing you as to the situation with Barton Wesleyan Chapel, things are moving quickly, the developer has had a meeting with Salford Planning department, and the rear graveyard has been blocked to the public. At the Chapel site two weeks ago the developer had some workmen cut back all the jungle, and until Tuesday of this week the public could gain access to the site of all the graves. On Tuesday/Wednesday the entrance was boarded up and a notice put up to say that if anybody wanted access to view a grave they had to ring a Mr. Hampson or Mr. Leigh on 0161 707 8856. After boarding up the site a mechanical digger was moved in, with the intention, as the developer put it, to clean up the site! Eric Heaton who lives in Salford and is very concerned with what is happening at the site, turned up on Thursday morning and this is what he had to say in an e-mail to me:- Thurs. 8 Nov 2001 The proposed developer of the site has decided to commence the "clearing up" operation prior to receiving planning permission. On a visit this morning I found that access to the burial ground had been sealed off with a high solid fence. Notices pinned to the wall stated that it had been fenced to block "fly tipping" and that if persons wished to gain access to family graves they had to contact Mr Hampson or Mr Leigh on 0161-707-8856 ( although not given on this notice Mr Hampsons Mobile Telephone No. is 07802 55 13 05). I gained access via an open gate and was very concerned with what I saw. "A heavy Mechanical Excavator was being used to clear the "rubbish" from the site. Unfortunately the machine driver included certain grave kerb surrounds in this definition- I saw some on top of a pile of excavated material. I also saw a badly damaged memorial stone. The machine driver informed me that he had been instructed to flatten any stones that were over 50 years old and in his way. I suggested that he shouldn't carry out any further damage ( he denied having done any!). I contacted Doug HANN the Town Planner at the Civic Centre and expressed my concern. I also contacted the Police. Mr Hann promised to contact the scheme Architect and Mr Hampson. Later in the day I received a phone call from Doug HANN who stated that a City Council Planning Enforcement Officer had visited the site and discussed the matter with the Machine Operator and that Mr Hampson after a meeting with Doud HANN had agreed to instruct his employee to continue clearing the site and to refrain from damaging gravestones etc. Please keep your eyes wide open! ERIC, After a trip down to the chapel Thursday lunchtime I found it impossible to see what was going on, but I could hear the machine in the graveyard. After that I met Eric at Patricroft Police Station, where he had been for some time waiting for someone to hear his complaint of vandalism to the grave stones. I have been informed that the date for objections has been put back to the 20th. November. If you would like to have a look at the planning proposals they can be viewed at:- http://www.salford.gov.uk/pubnotices/ type in the planning number 43153, in the search box and you will have access to the full planning application - plans as well. If you do not have Adobe Acrobat Reader you will see, on the results page to the search, a button, so that the Acrobat software can be down loaded free. If you also want to make representations to a Salford Councillor as well as putting forward an objection go to :- http://www.salford.gov.uk/council/membward.asp Every councillor has an e-mail address. So voice your concerns. The situation with records from the chapel look more cheerful, the main collection of documents, burial, baptism and marriage registers are held at Manchester Central Library Archives. For the school which is attached to the chapel most records are at Salford Archives except for a log book which is at Manchester Archives. Eric Heaton managed to trace a copy of the Monumental Inscriptions for the front (covered) graveyard, they have been missing since they were handed in to Eccles Council when the front was landscaped many years ago. The graveyard as a whole looks to be a bit of a nightmare, it looks to have been developed in three sections since the first burial in 1804. The front graveyard looks to be the oldest with approximately 146 graves. A plan, set out prior to the grassing over of the graves shows 90 graves plots marked out. Analysis of the Burial Register shows grave 146 as being the highest numbered grave in 1821. Compare the Monumental Inscriptions recently acquired for the front graveyard, and this shows grave number 140 as being the highest numbered stone. The re-development plan shows that there is a high possibility of the graves being disturbed, because the developer thinks that there are only 90 graves. The rear graveyard is in two portions, the old yard, which is near the chapel and the new yard, which extended the graveyard away from the chapel. The rear yard initially looked to be hard to sort out, an old plan does exist of the old yard and each grave is numbered, but there might be some duplication in numbers. Eric and myself have only been able to make an initial survey and things have probably been made worse by the machine that is supposedly cleaning up the rear yard. The old plan of the old graveyard shows graves close to the chapel, certainly in the area that will be built over. Only a tracing of this plan exists, and I am trying to trace the original. I will inform you more with what is going on as time progresses, please pass on this e-mail to anybody you think will be interested. If you want to contact Eric Heaton is e-mail address is :- ericjeh@netscapeonline.co.uk Till next time, Roger Hart, Little Lever, Bolton, UK. Web site http:www.mancuniensis.btinternet.co.uk/ PS. If you have requested information re.- Barton Wesleyan Burials, I appoligise. I have got snowed under with what is happening at the chapel, and have not had chance to reply. If you could re-email your request in a few weeks time I will reply asap. For those that live locally to the chapel, the yard will be open Sunday 11th. November at 14:00hrs. - per. Eric Heaton. Lynda Jones Adelaide, South Australia lynden@chariot.net.au Researching in Eccles - EDWARDS/NEWTON/WORTHINGTON & ROYLE

1857 Dth: Interred December 1890 Peel Green Cemetery, Eccles, Lancs. 1890-20-Dec Mary Jane ALLIN 60y 1890-26-Dec Elizabeth BRATT 50y 1890-23-Dec Patrick CAMPBELL 75y 1890-30-Dec Margaret GREATBANKS 35y 1890-30-Dec Meg GREATBANKS 19 H 1890-27-Dec Daisy GATLEY 15 W 1890-27-Dec Catherine HAMILTON 49y 1890-06-Dec George HARRISON 40y 1890-22-Dec Alice HEYWOOD 65y 1890-10-Dec Thomas LANCASTER 58y 1890-05-Dec Louisa LOWTHER 34y 1890-09-Dec John MORTON 49y 1890-29-Dec Ann RAFFERTY 31y 1890-13-Dec Matthew TONGE 26y 1890-27-Dec Thomas VALENTINE 74y 1890-22-Dec Sarah YATES 66y Eccles Newspaper, Eccles, Lancs 1890. Thats all for now folks, Regards, Carol - List Owner (Tree Tops) FAMILY TREE & WE’LL MEET AGAIN - Free Query Service: SKY NEWS British TV Text Pages 267 & 268, CHANNEL 5 British TV Text Pages 488 & 489 http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops/ http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections http://www.cadvision.com/traces/cj/cjmlists.htm

Dth: Interred November 1890 Peel Green Cemetery, Eccles, Lancs. 1890-01-Nov Mary Jane BARNES 40y 1890-12-Nov John BERRY 62y 1890-22-Nov Thomas BERRY 22y 1890-01-Nov Mary Elizabeth BUCKLEY 17y 1890-18-Nov Eleanor BUTTERWORTH 04w 1890-19-Nov Catherine Ellen DOHERTY 12m 1890-22-Nov Patrick GLEESON 60y 1890-15-Nov Ann HOWARD 07 W 1890-25-Nov Nora LEES 09m 1890-22-Nov Sarah Elizabeth LISTER 04m 1890-12-Nov William ROBSON 06m 1890-17-Nov James ROGERS 55?y 1890-04-Nov Esther SEDDON 75y 1890-26-Nov Bessie Mellor TONGE 05y 1890-26-Nov Ethel TONGE 07y 1890-24-Nov Laurence TONGE 33y 1890-01-Nov Edith Emily YOUNG 07m 1890-19-Nov Martha WATSON 23y 1890-04-Nov Elizabeth WOOD 60y Eccles Newspaper, Eccles, Lancs 1890.

Dth: Interred October 1890 Peel Green Cemetery, Eccles, Lancs. 1890-30-Oct Florence ASHTON 08y 1890-27-Oct Margaret CHADWICK 56y 1890-09-Oct Winifred COYLE 02y 1890-04-Oct William FOLEY 31y 1890-28-Oct Martha HALL 31y 1890-04-Oct George KILEEN 09m 1890-26-0ct Jane RACE 03m 1890-04-Oct Maria STEERS 74y 1890-06-Oct Charles THRELFALL 34y 1890-04-Oct Ernest Copestake TONGE 07m 1890-27-Oct Percy Emil WALTON 05m 1890-27-Oct Leo YOUNG 06m Eccles Newspaper, Eccles, Lancs 1890.

Dth: Interred September 1890 Peel Green Cemetery, Eccles, Lancs. 1890-18-Sep George Henry BROOMFIELD 05y 1890-11-Sep Thomas CUBACK 27y 1890-02-Sep Robert FERGUSON 28y 1890-03-Sep James FOLEY 49y 1890-24-Sep Annie HANSON 08y 1890-25-Sep Catherine HERBERT 45y 1890-08-Sep William JACKSON 07m 1890-22-Sep Mary KENT 04m 1890-01-Sep Florence HULME 06m 1890-20-Sep Maria LEYLAND 10m 1890-11-Sep George Edward MILES 27y 1890-22-Sep John MILLIGAN 29y 1890-19-Sep John Thomas PEACOCK 32y 1890-19-Sep Richard READ 08y 1890-18-Sep Elizabeth ROE 60y 1890-04-Sep John SHALLCROFT 44y 1890-20-Sep Hannah TAYLOR 34y 1890-15-Sep Annie WORTHINGTON 31y Eccles Newspaper, Eccles, Lancs 1890.

1853 Dth: Interred August 1890 Peel Green Cemetery, Eccles, Lancs. 1890-09-Aug Amelia ATHERTON 76y 1890-12-Aug Thomas ABBEY 36y 1890-15-Aug Freda BETHELL 10m 1890-23-Aug Joseph BINGHAM 29y 1890-20-Aug Mary BRITTAIN 25y 1890-14-Aug Charlotte E COCKAYNE 15m 1890-15-Aug Mary FITZGERALD 05m 1890-18-Aug Bridget FLYNN 64y 1890-27-Aug Cecilia GANGE 03 W 1890-12-Aug Mary Agnes GOODLER 03y 1890-14-Aug James GOUGH 26y 1890-09-Aug Martha IBBOTSON 36d 1890-23-Aug James JONES 05m 1890-23-Aug James JONES 04m 1890-11-Aug Jane KEATS 51y 1890-20-Aug Elizabeth KNIGHT 86y 1890-30-Aug Hannah LISTER 01m 1890-05-Aug Gwem MAGUIRE 48y 1890-20-Aug Mabel Snape MAIDMENT 02y 1890-18-Aug William McDERMOTT 05d 1890-20-Aug Alice Eva MEAGHER 08m 1890-20-Aug Ellen MURRAY 07m 1890-21-Aug Thomas NAYLOR N/K 1890-01-Aug Albert Edward O'CONNOR 08m 1890-11-Aug Sarah READING 01y 1890-27-Aug Edward Ernest TANDY 38y 1890-27-Aug Sarah THOMPSON 06 W 1890-25-Aug George WATKINSON 05 W 1890-14-Aug Elizabeth WHITTAKER 70y 1890-05-Aug James WILSON N/K Eccles Newspaper, Eccles, Lancs 1890.

Dth: Interred July 1890 Peel Green Cemetery, Eccles, Lancs. 1890-07-Jul Isabella ALLEN 31y 1890-28-Jul Edwin Joseph BAKER 48y 1890-22-Jul Charles BENSTEAD 14m 1890-14-Jul James BENSTEAD 03y 1890-25-Jul George BLACK 65y 1890-23-Jul George Wm CARTER 07w 1890-14-Jul Ann CHEETHAM 52y 1890-02-Jul Ada CLAYTON 05m 1890-04-Jul Samuel HALES 52y 1890-31-Jul Joseph HIND 48y 1890-17-Jul Richard J A HUGHES 04y 1890-16-Jul Clara MEDLEY 14y 1890-26-Jul Edith JONES 04y 1890-12-Jul Ann KIRKPATRICK 02y 1890-00-Jul Ruth MORTON 68y 1890-28-Jul John MURPHY 14m 1890-12-Jul Wm MORRIS 02y 1890-28-Jul Mary PHYTHIAN 71y 1890-01-Jul George REECE 29y 1890-02-Jul Ernest SMITH 04m 1890-09-Jul Joseph SOUTHERS 40y 1890-24-Jul Deiran WHEELON 02y 1890-06-Jul Sarah Ann WILLSON 05m 1890-10-Jul Arthur WILSON N/K 1890-10-Jul John Francis WILSON 09y 1890-10-Jul Sarah Ann WILSON 04m Eccles Newspaper, Eccles, Lancs 1890.

Dth: Interred June 1890 Peel Green Cemetery, Eccles, Lancs. 1890-19-Jun William BOURKE 07m 1890-09-Jun Margaret BALDWIN 03y 1890-24-Jun Jane CAVINS 50y 1890-14-Jun Edward Cuthbertson EDWARDS 12y 1890-21-Jun Maria EDWARDS 06m 1890-14-Jun Thomas EGAN 16m 1890-24-Jun Annie EVANS 42y 1890-04-Jun Emily DICK 49y 1890-06-Jun Eliza GORTON 30y 1890-04-Jun James GRAYSON 16y 1890-25-Jun Clara Beatrice HAWORTH 07 W 1890-02-Jun Samuel HEYWOOD 47y 1890-07-Jun Thomas HOGAN 27y 1890-03-Jun Sarah Jane IRELAND 66y 1890-24-Jun William JACKSON 26y 1890-02-Jun Ellen MELDON 04m 1890-10-Jun Michael McNULTY 22y 1890-24-Jun Annie SHAW 21y 1890-02-Jun Elizabeth SHILLITO 51y 1890-16-Jun Hannah TAYLOR 51y 1890-04-Jun Emily WALTON 32y Eccles Newspaper, Eccles, Lancs 1890.

Dth: Interred May 1890 Peel Green Cemetery, Eccles, Lancs. 1890-15-May Albert BECKETT 14y 1890-21-May Ellen BLEARS 62y 1890-01-May William BLEARS 34y 1890-17-May Violet BROWN 13m 1890-10-May Sophia BUCKLER 70y 1890-30-May Frances CAHILL 51y 1890-27-May John CARLINE 51y 1890-08-May James DICKENSON 03y 1890-10-May Joseph DODD 11 W 1890-08-May Thomas DONLON 69y 1890-16-May Robert GALLAGHER 05m 1890-12-May Joseph GREGORY 45y 1890-05-May Marian HOPKINS 43y 1890-27-May Beatrice Mary JOHNSON 18y 1890-26-May James LEE 58y 1890-23-May Michael MACAULEY 71y 1890-01-May Elizabeth MORTON 63y 1890-16-May Thomas PARR 75y 1890-10-May George RENSHAW 47y 1890-24-May Maggie ROGERS 02y 1890-28-May Cecilia Marion SCOTT 01y 1890-28-May William SHAKESPEAR 44y 1890-28-May Joseph SHAWCROSS 58y 1890-24-May Annie SMITH 76y 1890-13-May Mary Agnes TAYLOR 02y 1890-14-May Daniel WAINWRIGHT 36y 1890-06-May Charles WRIGHT 67y Eccles Newspaper, Eccles, Lancs 1890.

Dth: Interred April 1890 Peel Green Cemetery, Eccles, Lancs. 1890-22-Apr Alfred BECKETT 04d 1890-24-Apr Georgina BROWN 37y 1890-25-Apr Joseph CAMPION 76y 1890-24-Apr Samuel TIMPERLEY 69y 1890-23-Apr James EASTMAN 70y 1890-21-Apr John Thomas ELSE 14m 1890-08-Apr Ann LONGWORTH 62y 1890-22-Apr Joseph HYDE 06m 1890-19-Apr John MARKS 18m 1890-01-Apr William MARTLAND 55y 1890-01-Apr Charles ROYLE 66y Eccles Newspaper, Eccles, Lancs 1890.

1848 Dth: Interred March 1890 Peel Green Cemetery, Eccles, Lancs. 1890-19 Mar John ADAIR 41y 1890-05-Mar Richard BALDWIN 50y 1890-07-Mar Jane BOWDEN 46y 1890-08-Mar Ann CARNEY 55y 1890-01-Mar Rebecca CLUTTERBOOK 56y 1890-02-Mar David DAVIES 03y 1890-01-Mar Vida DERBYSHIRE 07m 1800-29-Mar Thomas DONLON 18m 1890-01-Mar James L FAIRCLOUGH 08y 1890-11-Mar Sarah Jane FELTON 37y 1890-15-Mar John FLEMING 42y 1890-18-Mar John KIDD 80?y 1890-01-Mar Caleb KNIGHT 68y 1890-08-Mar Elizabeth LEE 07 W 1890-03-Mar Elizabeth HOUTH 02d 1890-27-Mar Tom HOWELLS 02y 1890-12-Mar Harold E JONES 11 W 1890-22-Mar John Ernest MATTHEWS 05m 1890-08-Mar Mary McMILLEN 49y 1890-22-Mar Elizabeth MORLEY 05m 1890-10-Mar Agnes MOTLER 04d 1890-29-Mar James W ORMROD 10 W 1890-15-Mar Ellen PEPPER 24y 1890-15-Mar Frederick STUBBS 11m 1890-28-Mar William TONGE 42y 1890-13-Mar Miles WHITTAKER 24y 1890-19-Mar James WILKINSON 52?y 1890-29-Mar Benjamin WOLSTENCROFT 56y 1890-20-Mar Thomas ZACHARY 02y Eccles Newspaper, Eccles, Lancs 1890.

1847 Dth: Interred February 1890 Peel Green Cemetery, Eccles, Lancs. 1890-21-Feb Charles BERRY 49y 1890-22-Feb Ann BULLOCK 62y 1890-14-Feb Peter CONNELLY 39y 1890-20-Feb Annie CRANE 57y 1890-22-Feb Mary Jane DALY 17y 1890-19-Feb Henry GODDARD 14m 1890-20-Feb Elizabeth HALL 49y 1890-20-Feb Jane HOGINS 56y 1890-25-Feb Edward JONES 45y 1890-22-Feb William LOMAX 39y 1890-15-Feb Frederick NUNN 18m 1890-17-Feb Annie TUTHILL 03m 1890-26-Feb Robert WHITEHEAD 28y 1890-27-Feb Mary YOUNG 14y Eccles Newspaper, Eccles, Lancs 1890.

Dth: Interred January 1890 Peel Green Cemetery, Eccles, Lancs. Died Name Surname Age 1890-29-Jan Mary Lizzie BARBER 09w 1890-11-Jan Richard BLACKWELL 02y 1890-13-Jan Alice BLAKELEY 72y 1890-15-Jan Lillie BOWEN 12m 1890-11-Jan ..... BOWER 01y 1890-22-Jan ..... BUTCHER 46y 1890-26-Jan Ernest DAVIES 14w 1890-26-Jan William DAWSON 70y 1890-08-Jan Thomas DOALIN 65y 1890-27-Jan Amelia ECCLESHALL 29y 1890-30-Jan Geagina EDAY 19m 1890-08-Jan James ENTWISTLE 79y 1890-04-Jan Mary Ann GIBBS 07w 1890-10-Jan Fred HANSON 11w 1890-06-Jan George HOLLAND 45y 1890-25-Jan Gertrude IRVINE 03w 1890-29-Jan Emma MARSH 02y 1890-28-Jan John Malcolm MATHER 04y 1890-06-Jan John MULDOON 03m 1890-15-Jan Peter REYNOLDS 12m 1890-28-Jan Florence ROGERSON 04m 1890-31-Jan Felix SCANLON 40y 1890-04-Jan Ethel TAYLOR 03m 1890-11-Jan John SHARROCKS 41y Eccles Newspaper, Eccles, Lancs 1890.

Hi Carol, Have no info in this Ann Edwards at this present time. If I come across her further down the track I will let you know. Lynda Jones Adelaide South Australia lynden@chariot.net.au

Hi Carol, Thank you so much for the monumental inscriptions for the above names. I have been able to trace quite a lot of them from my spreadsheets. Even the ???? for ISAAC ROYLE family, I can fill in from what I already have. I can now add all the extra details you have sent me to the spreadsheets. I will pass the ROYLE information on to two other list members of the Manchester List who I know are researching the name Royle in the Eccles area. Could I just ask, do you have any monumental inscriptions for the name EDWARDS for either Barton Wesleyan Chapel, or Eccles Parish Church? Again thank you so much. Kind regards Lynda Jones Adelaide South Australia lynden@chariot.net.au

Hello List I'm researching: SAVILLE Jonathan- Cashier Railways Margaret nee HOWARTH in 1881 they lived at 105 Phillip Street Patricroft Eccles Their children were : JOSEPH HENRY ANN ADA MARGARET BERTHA Also JAMES BAILEY married to ELIZA nee BIRCHALL They also lived 94 Phillip Street their children were: JOSEPH EDITH GEORGE CLARA FLORENCE SARAH Reagrds Nora

-----Original Message----- From: Dennis and Barbara McCabe <dbcj@chorus.net> To: ENG-LAN-ECCLES-L@rootsweb.com <ENG-LAN-ECCLES-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 30 November, 2001 16:37 Subject: [ECCLES] names >Hi! >>Jemima TONGE (1802-1868) married William BOARDMAN (1802-1868),married 1827 in Eccles >children Jemima Pennington, William, Samuel, Ann, Martha, James, Eliza, >John, Helen. >parents of Jemima TONGE - Thos. TONGE and Martha >>Barb Hi, Thos. TONGE: any chance he had any connections with Carrington in Cheshire? My Frances TONGE, according to the marriage certificate, was the d/o of Thomas TONGE, Smith. Frances (b.c1820) was a Spinster, aged 30y of Liverpool Road. Regards, Carol

Hi all, Now that there are quite a lot of members on this list, perhaps we should have a roll call of Eccles Names. The major names in my Tree are: BANKS, BRITTAIN, DAWSON, BURROUGH, CROOK, DARBYSHIRE, DERBYSHIRE, GREGORY, HESKETH, HOLT, HUNT, NICHOLLS, MARTIN, MATHER, ROGERSON, SEDDON, STAFFORD, THORLEY, TONGE, WILSON. More details are: Samuel BANKS m. Sarah DAWSON 20 Nov 1815, Eccles Parish Church. Thomas BURROUGH m. Isabella CROOK 01 Nov 1886 Manchester Cathedral Thomas CROOK d. 1895 Eccles, m. Isabella GREGORY 1823-1923 Eccles Alfred DERBYSHIRE m.1827 Eccles to Mary BRITTAIN William HUNT m.1884 to Ann Eliza NICHOLLS Thomas MARTIN m. Elizabeth ?? Anthony Allen MARTIN m.1863 to Deborah HESKETH Herbert NICHOLLS m. 1853 Eccles to Elizabeth Bowker MARTIN. John RICHARDSON m.1821 to Martha MORTON. William SEDDON m1. Mary MATHER 1797, m2. Sarah ROGERSON 1818 Lot THORLEY b.c1766 m. Flixton to Elisabeth DARBYSHIRE b.1770, both buried Eccles. Ernest THORLEY of Eccles, m1. 1830 Eccles to Margaret STAFFORD m2. 25 Nov 1850 Manchester Cathedral to Frances TONGE b.c1820 Carrington, Chs. Herbert WILSON b.1868 m. Louisa MARTIN b.1871 Just some of the names in my Tree, all either born, married or died in Eccles. Regards, Carol - List Owner (Tree Tops) FAMILY TREE & WE’LL MEET AGAIN - Free Query Service: SKY NEWS British TV Text Pages 267 & 268, CHANNEL 5 British TV Text Pages 488 & 489 http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops/ http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections http://www.cadvision.com/traces/cj/cjmlists.htm

I have WILLIAM CHADWICK born in eccles, or barton,in about 1815 I know very little about william before this time, I know he married a lady called ANN as I have the family in all its glory, from 1851c through to 1881. so if anyone could help me find WILLIAM and siblings, parentage etc I would be so glad of any ideas,,,,,,,,,,regards,,,,,,,,maggi

I'm trying to find the marriage record for a Thomas Blackburn and a Mary Elliot. Married, I believe, in December of 1834. I'm trying to find out if Thomas is my ancestor and this is his second marriage. Truly appreciate it. I live in the US, and I am not really familiar with how to obtain marriage information in England. I just need to know Thomas' parents names to figure out if he is my ancestor. If anyone can help, I will pay them for their time and postage and such. Bradley Marchant Dean5779@aol.com