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    1. [ENG-LAN-ECCLES] The end is nigh
    2. Lynne
    3. Hello out there! The end of RootsWeb lists is just around the corner. If you want to make sure anyone reading the archives in future can find you, be sure to post your interests (surnames in all caps; first names, dates, and locations if you chose) and your munged email address to the RootsWeb lists to which you subscribe before 29 February. There are now hundreds of lists/groups on Groups.io that have moved from RootsWeb. You can search for a group at https://groups.io/ and then click on "Find or Create a Group." Many RootsWeb admins have added the word "RootsWeb" to the descriptions of their new groups, so if your first attempt doesn't find the right group, trying adding the keyword RootsWeb to your search. There's also a group just to announce new family research lists, RootsWeb Announce. Search the messages there to find a group. It's been a pleasure administering this list. I hope to see many of you on Groups.io or on the Ancestry/RootsWeb message boards. Take care and best of luck with your research. Kind regards, Lynne lklein at mindspring dot com BUSKEY: Lancashire and Yorkshire ENTWISTLE, ENTWHISTLE: Lancashire JONES: Lancashire and Wales WALTEMADE: Germany, United States FARLEY: Ireland, United States

    02/25/2020 08:17:41
    1. [ENG-LAN-ECCLES] ADMIN - New lists update
    2. Lynne
    3. Hello everyone Just wanted to let you know that the new lists on Groups.io are up and running smoothly. (There are now 722 former RootsWeb lists there!) If you haven't joined yet, please do. You can accept the invitation that was sent to you or go to each list's home page, as noted below, and join from there. Bolton: <https://groups.io/g/Eng-Lan-Bolton> Lancashire: <https://groups.io/g/LancsGen> Liverpool: <https://groups.io/g/Liverpool> Manchester and Salford: <https://groups.io/g/ManchesterSalford> I'll continue to do administrative tasks, but I'm going to stop posting to the RootsWeb lists. There may be exceptions, of course, maybe just to say good-bye. I hope you'll join me on Groups.io. Kind regards, Lynne

    01/30/2020 05:50:57
    1. [ENG-LAN-ECCLES] ADMIN: new LancsGen list
    2. Lynne
    3. Hello all Further to my message last week informing you of the closure of RootsWeb mailing lists, a new list for all of Lancashire has been created on the host Groups.io. I'll be sending you an invitation via Groups.io list in just a little while. Just follow the directions to join the list. Alternatively, you can go to the new list's home page at <https://groups.io/g/LancsGen> and subscribe to the new list by scrolling down to Join This List (or Apply for Membership to This Group) and clicking on the link. Be sure to respond to the confirmation email you'll receive from Groups.io or you won't be subscribed. Once you receive the welcome message and list guidelines, please take a look at them and let me know _off-list_ if there are any errors or if you have any questions. Hope you will join and enjoy the new list! Kind regards, Lynne list owner

    01/18/2020 05:22:58
    1. [ENG-LAN-ECCLES] RootsWeb Mailing Lists -- some very bad news :-(
    2. Lynne
    3. List administrators just received this message. No advanced warning, not even an inkling. Am shocked to the core. Lynne list admin. -----Forwarded Message----- >From: RootsWeb Administration <[email protected]> >Sent: Jan 7, 2020 12:37 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [LO] RootsWeb Mailing Lists > >Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. > >Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on RootsWeb. > >As an alternative to RootsWeb Mailing Lists, Ancestry message boards are a great option to network with others in the genealogy community. Message boards are available for free with an Ancestry registered account. > >Thank you for being part of the RootsWeb family and contributing to this community. > >Sincerely, >The RootsWeb team

    01/07/2020 11:56:13
    1. [ENG-LAN-ECCLES] Season's greetings: Hanukkah Sameach! Happy Christmas!
    2. Lynne
    3. Dear friends, No matter which holiday you celebrate, may this year's be the best ever! My wish is that in the coming year you break down brick walls and that you and your families enjoy peace, good health, and happiness. As the year draws to a close, please give a thought to the future of RootsWeb's mailing lists. If they are to continue, your posts are needed. Many mailing lists have been inactivated because of lack of participation. If every subscriber posted her or his interests, a snippet of information or history, or posed a question every month or even a few times a year, the lists would be very busy indeed. Many thanks go to those that do post to the lists. Your contributions are invaluable. Warm regards, Lynne PS - A card awaits you at <https://tinyurl.com/r6pncbe>. Enjoy!

    12/23/2019 10:35:59
    1. [ENG-LAN-ECCLES] Lancashire BMD updates 7 December 2019
    2. Lynne
    3. From Lancashire BMD updates at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/update.php: 7 December 2019 Added 50,160 Births for Manchester RD comprising: Manchester (2000-2007) Added 5,556 Births for Bury RD comprising: Bury (1974-1976) Added 45,624 Deaths for Bolton RD comprising: Bolton A (1982-1998); Bolton B (1988-2007); Bolton C (1982-1994); Bolton D (1984-1996) Added 6,058 Deaths for Bury RD comprising: Bury (1954-1960) Many thanks to all of the volunteers and contributors to Lancashire BMD. Search for your ancestors in Lancashire at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/ or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/

    12/18/2019 06:44:23
    1. [ENG-LAN-ECCLES] Guides to Family History Research
    2. Lynne
    3. The Bolton branch of the Manchester & Lancashire FHS have put together two research guides, one for beginners and an advanced guide. Take a look at <https://tinyurl.com/vllvrkv> and <https://tinyurl.com/s8cpn7f>. Both guides are in PDF format and can be saved to your computer. What do you think? Anything missing or incorrect? Lynne

    12/11/2019 09:51:17
    1. [ENG-LAN-ECCLES] potato pie
    2. tamiwell
    3. Hello : ) My dad very fondly remembers his Grandmother making ‘potato pie’ when he was a kid. His Grandmother’s family came from Irlam and she was born in 1903. I’m presuming that it was a recipe her mother handed down to her and was wondering whether anyone knows a traditional local recipe for this? I would love to learn how to make it for my Dad. He said he remembers that there was pastry on top, and potato and meat inside, and he thinks it had a good lashing of pepper! : ) If anyone has a recipe for it I would really appreciate it, Thank you, Tamara Sent from Mail for Windows 10

    09/28/2019 06:06:39
    1. [ENG-LAN-ECCLES] William Huskisson and the Vicaress of Eccles
    2. Lynne
    3. From the blog for the Borthwick Institute for Archives: "On this day in 1830 Liverpool MP William Huskisson was fatally injured by the 'Rocket' locomotive at the opening of the Liverpool & Manchester Railway - but did you know of the part played in the aftermath by Emma Blackburne, Vicaress of Eccles?" "The death of Liverpool MP William Huskisson at the opening of the Liverpool to Manchester Railway in September 1830 has become a notorious event in early railway history. Less well known however is the part played in the events of that day by Emma Anne Blackburne, the Vicaress of Eccles, who features heavily in the correspondence of Annabel Crewe, part of the Milnes Coates Archive at the Borthwick Institute." Read this interesting story at <https://tinyurl.com/y2cer284>. Do you have a connection to anyone mentioned in this blog? Lynne

    09/15/2019 08:25:10
    1. [ENG-LAN-ECCLES] LancashireBMD - New Data
    2. Lynne
    3. From John Marsden, Webmaster of www.lancashirebmd.org.uk, www.cumbriabmd.org.uk, www.1851-unfilmed.org.uk, www.mlfhs.org.uk June 17, 2019: Added 31,028 Deaths for Manchester RD comprising: Manchester (1974-1978) Thanks are due to Liz Williamson, Phil Wharram and their team. June 22, 2019: 31,393 Births for Manchester RD comprising: Manchester (1995-2006) 7,460 Deaths for Bury RD comprising Ramsbottom (1938-1974) 2,337 Marriages for Bury RD comprising Elton, All Saints (1973-2000) Elton, St.Stephen (1973-1991) Holcombe, Emmanuel (1984-1997) Prestwich, St. Margaret (1981-1995) Ainsworth, Christ Church (1989-2012) Bury, St.Mary (1977-2000) Bury, St.Peter (1976-1992) Thanks are due to Liz Williamson, Phil Wharram and their team and to tony Foster and his team. July 1, 2019: Added 1,260 Marriages for Bolton RD comprising: Horwich, Independent Methodist Chapel, Lee Lane (1976-1992) Bolton, St Matthew (1953-1992) Bolton, Wesleyan Chapel, Seymour Road, Astley Bridge (1970-1992) Bolton, Unity Church, Deane Road (1968-1983) Bolton, Victoria Hall, Knowsley Street (1958-1992) Outwood, Emmanuel Church, Folds Road (1924-1981) Bolton, Bethel Church, Albert Place, Clarence Street (1948-1991) Bolton, St Columba's Church, Ripley Street (1974-1992) Bolton, Congregational Church, Red Lane (1974-1991) Westhoughton, Sacred Heart Church, Lord Street (1977-1992) Horwich, St Catherine (1972-1992) Bolton, St Aidan, Hall i'th Wood (1973-1992) Thanks are due to Graham Holt for the above. July 12, 2019 Added 28,171 Deaths for Manchester RD comprising: Manchester (1999-2007) Added 1,880 Marriages for Chorley RD comprising: Chorley, Trinity Methodist Church (Gillibrand Walks) (Gillibrand Walks), registers at Preston (1976-1976) Coppull, Methodist Church (Spendmore Lane) (Spendmore Lane), registers at Preston (1976-1983) Croston, Trinity Methodist Church (1976-1984) Eccleston, Methodist Church (1976-1998) Euxton, Methodist Chapel (1977-1982) Heskin, Methodist Chapel (1978-1984) Hoghton, Methodist Chapel (1977-1977) Mawdesley, Methodist Chapel (1976-1984) Whittle-le-Woods, Methodist Church (1977-1989) Chorley, Methodist Church (Park Road) (Park Road), registers at Preston (1976-1986) Croston, Chapel of The Holy Cross R.C. (1976-1980) Mawdesley, SS Peter & Paul R.C. (1976-1981) Whittle-le-Woods, St Chad's R.C. Chapel (1976-1977) Chorley, Park St Chapel (1977-1978) Chorley, United Reformed Church (Hollinshead Street) (Hollinshead Street) , registers at Preston (1976-1976) Adlington, United Reformed Church (1976-1989) Bretherton, Ebenezer Congregational Church (South Road) (South Road), registers at Preston (1978-1993) Rivington, Presbyterian Chapel (1977-1982) Chorley, Kingdom Hall Friday St (Jehovah's Witness) (Jehovah's Witness), registers at Preston (1976-1990) Withnell Fold, Methodist Chapel (1976-1993) Preston Monthly Meeting House (1979-1986) Chorley, Methodist Church (Eaves Lane) (Eaves Lane), registers at Preston (1976-1992) Adlington, Methodist Church (1985-1999) Brinscall, Hillside Methodist Chapel (1976-1977) Bretherton, Methodist Chapel & Sunday School (1980-1982) Coppull, Methodist Church (Preston Road) (Preston Road), registers at Preston (1977-1982) St Lawrence, Chorley (1976-1992) St Peter, Chorley (1976-1985) Parish Church, Coppull (1976-1976) St John The Divine, Coppull (1976-1989) St Michael, Croston (1976-1982) St Mary The Virgin, Eccleston (1976-1981) Parish Church, Euxton (1976-1984) St Barnabas, Heapey (1976-1984) Holy Trinity, Hoghton (1976-1991) St Peter, Mawdesley (1976-1976) St Paul, Adlington (1976-1977) The Chapelry, Rivington (1976-1977) St John The Evangelist, Whittle-le-Woods (1976-1979) St Paul, Withnell (1976-1995) St John The Baptist, Bretherton (1976-1984) St James, Brindle (1976-1986) Christ Church, Charnock Richard (1976-1983) St George, Chorley (1976-1977) St James, Chorley (1976-1986) Chorley Register Office or Registrar Attended (1976-1977) Thanks are due to Liz Williamson and Phil Wharram and their team and to Tony Foster and his team. ~ ~ ~ ~ Many thanks to John and all of the volunteers and contributors to LancashireBMD. Search for your ancestors in Lancashire at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/ or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/ Happy searching! Lynne

    07/18/2019 11:34:29
    1. [ENG-LAN-ECCLES] Additions to Lancashire OnLine Parish Clerks
    2. Lynne
    3. Lancs OPC (http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/) have been very busy bees: **11 July 2019** Baptisms 1792 to 1837 from Stamford St Methodist New Connexion in the Parish of Ashton under Lyne Burials 1879 to 1888 from Heaton Cemetery, Bolton Admissions male 1876 to 1901 and female 1879 to 1908 from Burnley Workhouse Marriages 1872 to 1918 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Joseph, Heywood Marriages 1947 to 1968 from the Church of St Cuthbert, in the Parish of Darwen Marriages 1930 to 1943 from the Church of St Thomas, Golborne Burials 1741 to 1782 from the Church of St James (formerly St Thomas), Gorton, Manchester Baptisms 1869 to 1872 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Francis of Assisi, Gorton, Manchester Burials 1874 to 1888 from the Church of St Margaret of Antioch, Hollinwood Baptisms 2007 to 2018 and Burials 2000 to 2018 from the Church of St Michael, Hoole Baptisms 1867 to 1870 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Edward, Lees Baptisms 1867 to 1870 from Zion, Methodist New Connexion, Lees Marriages 1815 from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool Baptisms 1845 and Marriages 1789 from the Collegiate Church, Manchester Adds the months of July to December to complete Baptisms for the year 1845 Adds the months of January to July to complete Marriages for the year 1789 Marriages 1900 to 1928 from All Saints, Newton Heath, Manchester Burials 1773 to 1784 from the Church of St Mary, Oldham Baptisms 1856 to 1861 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Mary, Oldham Banns 1881 to 1883 from the Church of St Chad, Rochdale Marriages 1882 to 1896 from the Church of St Thomas the Martyr, Upholland Replacing the previous index of these Marriages with the full details Marriages 1887 to 1890 from the Church of St Elphin in the Parish of Warrington **11 June 2019** Marriages 1877 to 1887 from the Church of St Elphin in the Parish of Warrington Banns 1897 to 1912 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Peter, Greengate Baptisms 1825 to 1837 from Ebenezer Independent, Calderbrook, in the Town of Rochdale Marriages 1891 to 1905 from the Church of St Peter, Newbold, in the Town of Rochdale Burials 1788 to 1794 and 1812 to 1837 from Ebenezer Particular Baptist, Bacup Baptisms 1960 to 2007, Confirmations 1983 to 2017, Banns 1970 to 2018 and Marriages 2001 to 2017 from the Church of St Michael, Hoole Baptisms 1867 to 1870 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Patrick, in the District of Collyhurst, Manchester Marriages 1895 to 1917 from the Church of St James (formerly St Thomas), Gorton, Manchester Marriages 1903 to 1916 from the Church of George the Martyr, Gorton, Manchester Baptisms 1874 to 1882 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Francis of Assisi, Gorton, Manchester Marriages 1871 to 1877 from the Church of St Paul, Bury Baptisms 1816 to 1837 and Burials 1816 to 1837 from Central Wesleyan Methodist, Bury Baptisms 1803 to 1837 from Park Chapel, Walmersley, in the Parish of Bury Baptisms 1823 to 1837 from Mereclough Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, Cliviger, in the Parish of Burnley Burials 1755 to 1837 from Tottlebank Baptist, Tottlebank, Colton Baptisms 1927 to 1949, Marriages 1943 to 1957 and Burials 1929 to 1953 from the Church of St Thomas, Golborne Banns 1856 to 1875 and Marriages 1749 to 1770 and 1859 to 1866 from the Church of St James, Accrington Baptisms 1596 to 1616, 1638 to 1653 and 1662 to 1749, Marriages 1596 to 1616, 1616 to 1639 and 1663 to 1749, and Burials 1596 to 1615, 1638 to 1653, and 1662 to 1749 from the Church of St James, Altham The register for Burials 1662 to 1749 has been updated to contain some additional entries Baptisms 1685 to 1766 from the Church of St Mary, Walton-on-the-Hill Baptisms 1783 to 1791 and Burials 1734 to 1813 from the Church of St George, Derby Square, Liverpool Marriages 1813 to 1815 from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool Baptisms 1809 to 1837 from Bryar St Chapel, Lancaster Baptisms 1845 to 1859 from the Church of St Thomas, Lancaster Baptisms 1837 to 1857 from Trinity URC (formerly High St Chapel), Lancaster Baptisms 1788 to 1837 from Wesley Chapel, Colne in the District of Pendle Baptisms 1870 to 1918 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Mary, Osbaldeston Baptisms 1774 to 1812 from the Church of St Michael in the Parish of Whitewell Baptisms 1877 to 1879 from the Church of St Mary, Oldham Completes the register for Baptisms 1875 to 1879 Marriages 1815 to 1817 from the Parish Church of St Peter, Bolton This Register, which previously presented only an index, is now updated to include the full details from the Parish Register Happy searching! Lynne

    07/17/2019 08:37:20
    1. [ENG-LAN-ECCLES] Family history bargains
    2. Lynne
    3. Each week the Who Do You Think You Are email newsletter publishes family history deals, amongst other interesting things. This week, the newsletter has links to Valentine's Day offers from DNA testing companies and a discount on Society of Genealogists membership. On top of that, the newsletter itself is free and often contains links to articles in the Who Do You Think You Are magazine which are free to read. To view this week's newsletter online, go to <http://e.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/q/1f7AVIfBVcTybkIHsKBv6Ly/wv> or <http://tinyurl.com/y7kbbttm<. To sign up to receive the free newsletter, go to <http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/newsletter> or <http://tinyurl.com/y9lrkntx>. Do you know of any other free resources? Please let us know! Lynne

    02/08/2019 08:50:02
    1. [ENG-LAN-ECCLES] GRO certificate costs to increase in February
    2. Lynne
    3. First announced by Peter Calver in his LostCousins newsletter and now written about by UKBMD, a variety of family history societies, and Who Do You Think You Are Magazine, certificate costs will increase 16 February 2019. From Who Do You Think You Are magazine, "Increased charges for this service, which will come into force on 16 February 2019, have now been published in Statutory Instrument No 1268, 'Registration of births, deaths & marriages, etc., England and Wales', available on the UK government's legislation website. "The cost of print certificates will increase from £9.25 to £11, and from £23.40 to £35 for the priority service, which allows delivery on the next working day. The same costs will apply if researchers order the certificate from their local register office. "In October 2017 the GRO introduced a new pilot scheme allowing researchers to order PDF copies of digitised birth and death records for £6 each. Following an estimated 79,600 PDF orders in three months, the scheme was extended indefinitely. "The cost of PDF records will now increase to £7, with priority deliveries available at £45. "If researchers make an application to the GRO for a certificate copy without knowing the index reference, there will be an additional non-refundable fee of £3 in exchange for GRO staff carrying out a search of the index. Currently, this service is free. "There will also be a fee of £3.50 where the GRO cannot fulfil an order because the staff cannot locate the record with the information provided. "The increased fees are the first pricing changes at the GRO since 2010."

    01/04/2019 06:04:05
    1. [ENG-LAN-ECCLES] LancashireBMD updates Dec 7 and 15, 2018
    2. Lynne
    3. News from John Marsden - New data has been added at www.lancashirebmd.org.uk as follows: Added 131 Births for Lancaster RD comprising: Preesall (1969-1974) Added 2,336 Births for Hyndburn RD comprising: Haslingden (1890-1895) Added 6,356 Births for Bury RD comprising: Bury (1965-1968) Added 3,010 Deaths for Bury RD comprising: Radcliffe (1934-1937); Elton (1890-1892) Added 915 Marriages for Fleetwood and Fylde RD comprising: Poulton-le-Fylde, Methodist Church (Queensway), (1940-2000) St. Annes-on-Sea, The Drive Methodist Church (Clifton Drive South) (1909-1998) Thanks are due to Tony Foster and his team for the above. Added 33,722 Births for Manchester RD comprising: Manchester (1990-1997) Added 32,716 Deaths for Manchester RD comprising: Manchester (1988-1997) Thanks are due to Liz Williamson and Phil Wharram and their team. For access to all the UK's major BMD and Census sites visit https://www.UKBMD.org.uk/ For access to all the UK's major Family History sites visit http://www.UKGDL.org.uk/ For access to all the UK's major Military Family History sites visit http://www.UKMFH.org.uk/

    12/24/2018 10:51:54
    1. [ENG-LAN-ECCLES] National Archives - Change in fees
    2. Lynne
    3. From <http://livelb.nationalarchives.gov.uk/about/news/changes-to-our-fees/> - "From 1 February 2019, there will be changes to some of the fees we charge. "Archive boxes on repository shelvesAs a government department providing a public service, we are able to charge for some statutory services (as defined by the Public Records Act ) on a cost recovery basis. The Fees Order, which regulates our fees, has been refreshed from the last calculation which came into effect 1 April 2017. We are maintaining the standard approach in line with the HM Treasury publication, Managing Public Money, to set charges at a level that will recover full costs, ensuring that The National Archives neither profits at the expense of consumers nor makes a loss for taxpayers to subsidise. "There are both price increases and decreases, for example a digital copy up to A3 size goes up by 10p to £1.20. Currently, our research service cost £23.35 per 15 minutes, this will go up by £1.00 however, the charge for a copy of a naturalisation certificate will go down by 25p to £27.15. "As there is no legal requirement for The National Archives to digitise physical public records these services are by definition discretionary. We have therefore removed the following digital surrogate related lines: • The creation of digital surrogates funded by others (for a commercial return, or to widen access) • Reprographic charges (Production and Estimation) • Image Library (Serviced Copies – Colour Photograph) • Digital Downloads • Conservation for Digitisation "In addition to, but separate from, the Fees Order changes, we are introducing a fee for the provision of letters of no evidence of naturalisation, in the same way that we charge for certified copies of naturalisation certificates. They will incur a fee of £27.15 which is regulated to be the cost recovery price (i.e. the cost to The National Archives doing the work). "A full list of fees can be found here <www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/record-copying-prices-february-2019.pdf>" Don't shoot the messenger! Lynne

    12/23/2018 10:49:51
    1. [ENG-LAN-ECCLES] National Archives - Change in fees
    2. Lynne
    3. From <http://livelb.nationalarchives.gov.uk/about/news/changes-to-our-fees/> - "From 1 February 2019, there will be changes to some of the fees we charge. "Archive boxes on repository shelvesAs a government department providing a public service, we are able to charge for some statutory services (as defined by the Public Records Act ) on a cost recovery basis. The Fees Order, which regulates our fees, has been refreshed from the last calculation which came into effect 1 April 2017. We are maintaining the standard approach in line with the HM Treasury publication, Managing Public Money, to set charges at a level that will recover full costs, ensuring that The National Archives neither profits at the expense of consumers nor makes a loss for taxpayers to subsidise. "There are both price increases and decreases, for example a digital copy up to A3 size goes up by 10p to £1.20. Currently, our research service cost £23.35 per 15 minutes, this will go up by £1.00 however, the charge for a copy of a naturalisation certificate will go down by 25p to £27.15. "As there is no legal requirement for The National Archives to digitise physical public records these services are by definition discretionary. We have therefore removed the following digital surrogate related lines: • The creation of digital surrogates funded by others (for a commercial return, or to widen access) • Reprographic charges (Production and Estimation) • Image Library (Serviced Copies – Colour Photograph) • Digital Downloads • Conservation for Digitisation "In addition to, but separate from, the Fees Order changes, we are introducing a fee for the provision of letters of no evidence of naturalisation, in the same way that we charge for certified copies of naturalisation certificates. They will incur a fee of £27.15 which is regulated to be the cost recovery price (i.e. the cost to The National Archives doing the work). "A full list of fees can be found here <www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/record-copying-prices-february-2019.pdf>" Don't shoot the messenger! Lynne

    12/23/2018 10:49:46
    1. [ENG-LAN-ECCLES] Season's Greetings
    2. Lynne
    3. Dear Friends, My sincere best wishes to all of you for a very merry Christmas. May the coming year bring you peace, good health, and joy, plus a few demolished brick walls. Warm regards, Lynne list admin.

    12/21/2018 08:10:28
    1. [ENG-LAN-ECCLES] Giveaways - Federation of Family History Societies (FFHS)
    2. Lynne
    3. The Christmas edition of the FFHS has links to multiple giveaways -- too many for me to list here -- and a DNA report in which you might be interested. See <https://mailchi.mp/ffhs/christmas-newsletter-2018?e=e5e58f2aea> for the online edition. Enjoy! Lynne

    12/17/2018 09:24:52
    1. [ENG-LAN-ECCLES] Inquests reported in UK newspapers
    2. Lynne
    3. From the Macquarie University in Australia, some Coronial Inquests extracted from local newspapers. Scroll down and click on the country of interest then click on the county. There's also a page of deaths at sea. Be aware, it's a very interesting resource but also very gruesome. <http://www.law.mq.edu.au/research/colonial_case_law/colonial_cases/less_developed/coronial_inquests/> or <https://tinyurl.com/yb3ct2qe> My thanks to Adele on the LancsGen list for pointing out this resource. Please do let us know if you find an ancestor mentioned. Lynne

    12/16/2018 09:45:29
    1. [ENG-LAN-ECCLES] Phrases and sayings you are likely to hear across Greater Manchester
    2. Lynne
    3. From Manchester Evening News at https://tinyurl.com/y7mcxwpp: "We have put together a list of phrases and sayings you'd be likely to hear across Greater Manchester. "The list has been put together after a huge response with more than 700 of you sending in your favourites. "Check the list below, which has been broken down by area." BOLTON: 1. Saying/ word: Barm Meaning: Bread roll 2. Saying/ word: Put wood in th'ole Meaning: Shut the door 3. Saying/ word: Corporation pop Meaning: Water 4. Saying/ word: It's cracking flags Meaning: it is so hot outside that stone pavings are breaking 5. Saying/ word: Use yer loaf Meaning: Think for yourself 6. Saying/ word: I've not got out fort do Meaning: I don't have anything to do 7. Saying/ word: A'v cum b'out any money Meaning: I'm afraid I haven't got any cash on me today 8. Saying/ word: Stop skriking Meaning: Stop crying 9. Saying/ word: Good ere innit Meaning: It's nice here 10. Saying/ word: dost tha want summat teyt Meaning: would you like something to eat BURY: 1. Saying/ word: Ratchet Meaning: Cool 2. Saying/ word: Mitherin' Meaning: Annoying/pestering 3. Saying/ word: Wot you sayin'? Meaning: Hello, do you have anything interesting to say? 4. Saying/ word: Proper reet good Meaning: That is very good 5. Saying/ word: Give us a nicker Meaning: Please may I have a pound 6. Saying/ word: Powfagged Meaning: I am tired 7. Saying/ word: A doll and a drum and a kick up a bum Meaning: That is what you get for being cheeky 8. Saying/ word: What ya on wi lad Meaning: What have you been up to? 9. Saying/ word: How's yer sen? Meaning: How are you? 10. Saying/ word: Stop pace egging about Meaning: Stop messing around MANCHESTER: 1. Saying/ word: Kecks Meaning: Trousers 2. Saying/ word: I'm spitting feathers here Meaning: I am thirsty 3. Saying/ word: Nice one Meaning: Thank you 4. Saying/ word: Beltin' Meaning: Great 4. Saying/ word: Top Meaning: Great 5. Saying/ word: He's not as green as he's cabbage looking Meaning: He's not as stupid as he looks 6. Saying/ word: Scran Meaning: Food 7. Saying/ word: Chufties Meaning: Happy or pleased 8. Saying/ word: Sorted Meaning: It's alright 9. Saying/ word: Our kid Meaning: My brother/sister 10. Saying/ word: Manchester caviar Meaning: Mushy peas 11. Saying/ word: Wind ya neck in Meaning: Calm down/keep your nose out of my business 12. Saying/ word: Shut ya gob Meaning: Be quiet 13. Saying/ word: Put big light on Meaning: Turn on the main light 14. Saying/ word: Ta rah Meaning: Goodbye 15. Saying/ word: Mither Meaning: Pester 16. Saying/ word: Mint Meaning: Good 17. Saying/ word: Ginnel Meaning: An alleyway 15. Saying/ word: Your hair is full of lugs Meaning: Your hair is all knotty and you can't get a brush through it 16. Saying/ word: Chuffed Meaning: Pleased 17. Saying/ word: Chattin macca Meaning: Talking rubbish 18. Saying/ word: Alright cocka Meaning: Hello 19. Saying/ word: Willie heckers like Meaning: No he won't 20. Saying/ word: Ow'do Meaning: How are you? 21. Saying/ word: 'angin Meaning: Horrible 22. Saying/ word: Bag on a as in 'he has got a bag on' Meaning: In a mood 23. Saying/ word: Nice one Meaning: That is good 24. Saying/ word: Don't be nesh Meaning: Do not be soft 25. Saying/ word: Chuck it now Meaning: Stop it/ stop messing about 26. Saying/ word: Mingin Meaning: Not nice 27. Saying/ word: That's bobbins Meaning: That is useless OLDHAM: 1. Saying/ word: Daubed Meaning: To be ripped off/had over 2. Saying/ word: Slippy curry Meaning: A slide made on ice 3. Saying/ word: Going out in your stocking feet Meaning: Not wearing shoes 4. Saying/ word: Stop scrikin' Meaning: Stop crying/going on about something 5. Saying/ word: I'll give you a winger Meaning: I will hit you 6. Saying/ word: I were a gate and he were a gate Meaning: I said and he said 7. Saying/ word: Muffin Meaning: Bread roll 8. Saying/ word: I could eat a horse between two bread vans Meaning: I am very hungry 9. Saying/ word: Favver Meaning: Look like/resemble 10. Saying/ word: Clobber Meaning: Clothes 11. Saying/ word: Ah cud eat three spuds more than a pig then go back fert pig Meaning: I am hungry ROCHDALE: 1. Saying/ word: Cruckle Meaning: When you go over your ankle 2. Saying/ word: Do I heckers like Meaning: No, I definitely don't 3. Saying/ word: Nippin' shop Meaning: Going to the shop 4. Saying/ word: Up the wooden hill Meaning: Up the stairs 5. Saying/ word: Pept Meaning: Something or someone that's not good 6. Saying/ word: I'll av a meat an tata cake Meaning: I'll have a meat and potato pie 7. Saying/ word: A shilling mix Meaning: A shillings worth of chips and peas in a bowl 8. Saying/ word: Al'reet? Meaning: Are you ok? 9. Saying/ word: Pecking head - as in 'he keeps pecking head' Meaning: Someone is irritating me 10. Saying/ word: What a load of twod Meaning: What a load of rubbish 11. Saying/ word: Sweating cobs as in 'I'm sweating cobs 'ere' Meaning: I am sweating a lot 12. Saying/ word: Put peg inth hole Meaning: Close the door 13. Saying/ word: How atti cock? Meaning: How are you? 14. Saying/ word: Creating Meaning: Causing trouble SALFORD: 1. Saying/ word: Plantpot Meaning: Fool 2. Saying/ word: Brassic Meaning: Broke 3. Saying/ word: Scran Meaning: Food 4. Saying/ word: Oh aye yeah Meaning: Oh yes (realisation) 5. Saying/ word: Barmcake Meaning: Bread roll 6. Saying/ word: Like piffy on a rock bun Meaning: Used for someone hanging around with no purpose 7. Saying/ word: Sound as a pound Meaning: Great, doing good 8. Saying/ word: I'm starvin' Marvin. Meaning: Hungry 9. Saying/ word: Jibbing Meaning: Not to pay on the bus or train 10. Saying/ word: Yer great barmpot Meaning: You are being rather silly 11. Saying/ word: Sayin lad Meaning: Hello, are you OK? What have you been up to? 12. Saying/ word: ee, I'll go t'foot of our stairs Meaning: Expression of surprise 13. Saying/ word: All there with her lemon drops Meaning: A woman who thinks she's someone important 14. Saying/ word: Dock off Meaning: Very large 15. Saying/ word: Yer doin me shed in Meaning: You are driving me mad 16. Saying/ word: He's not behind the door is he? Meaning: He's not daft is he? 17. Saying/ word: Dead Meaning: A word used to replace 'very ' 18. Saying/ word: Nah mate Meaning: No STOCKPORT: 1. Saying/ word: Eee are' Meaning: Here you are/excuse me (A way of getting someone's attention) 2. Saying/ word: Snide Meaning: Fake 3. Saying/ word: Wiggy Meaning: Haircut 4. Saying/ word: Waggin - as in 'waggin from school' Meaning: Playing truant 5. Saying/ word: Quaggy Meaning: Wet or soaked 6. Saying/ word: Sound Meaning: Something is OK 7. Saying/ word: Bare Meaning: Lots of 8. Saying/ word: That's west Meaning: Like that's bad/ horrible 9. Saying/ word: What's gwarnin? Meaning: What is up? 10. Saying/ word: Mard Meaning: Cry baby 11. Saying/ word: Lets get the boat on the road Meaning: Let us get on our way 12. Saying/ word: Mashed Meaning: Cannot concentrate on a task/ figure things out TAMESIDE: 1. Saying/ word: Growler butty Meaning: Holland's meat pie in a bread roll 2. Saying/ word: Put ya face straight Meaning: Stop sulking 3. Saying/ word: Get on one, Man. Meaning: Stop annoying me and go away 4. Saying/ word: Two's on that mate. Meaning: Can I share that with you? 5. Saying/ word: It was like Muldoon's Picnic Meaning: All over the place / lack of structure and organisation 6. Saying/ word: Off t' scratcher Meaning: going to bed 7. Saying/ word: Ekey thump Meaning: Strange 8. Saying/ word: Thrapper Meaning: Ashtray 9. Saying/ word: Do one Meaning: Run away 10. Saying/ word: Get in my son! Meaning: Yes I did it/ they did it 11. Saying/ word: Well I'll go to our house Meaning: I am shocked or surprised by something 12. Saying/ word: Let's 'av a butchers Meaning: Can I have a look 13. Saying/ word: Nowt but a cockstride Meaning: It is close by 14. Saying/ word: Me owd mucker Meaning: When greeting an old friend 15. Saying/ word: Off ya pop Meaning: Go away 16. Saying/ word: Knock on Meaning: Calling on your friend TRAFFORD: 1. Saying/ word: Get me sup on Meaning: Going to have a drink of beer 2. Saying/ word: Do one will ya! Meaning: Go away! 3. Saying/ word: Jack ups Meaning: Pants that are too short at the bottom 4. Saying/ word: Top Scran Meaning: Good food 5. Saying/ word: Tide you over Meaning: Keep you going until your next meal WIGAN: 1. Saying/ word: Tha's gerrin on mi wazz! Meaning: You're doin' my head in 2. Saying/ word: Am clempt Meaning: Am very hungry 3. Saying/ word: As fow/feaw as a clog back Meaning: Not very good looking! 4. Saying/ word: Babbies head chips n peyys Meaning: A steak pudding, chips and peas 5. Saying/ word: Belting that Meaning: It is brilliant 6. Saying/ word: Chorve Meaning: Torment or pester 7. Saying/ word: Give your 'ed a wobble Meaning: Pull yourself together 8. Saying/ word: Have a 'monk on' Meaning: Sulking, bad mood 9. Saying/ word: I'm going whom Meaning: I'm going home 10. Saying/ word: Jackbit Meaning: Food 11. Saying/ word: Jobs a gud un Meaning: Work finished satisfactorily 12. Saying/ word: You've got more jam than Hartley's you! Meaning: You are lucky 13. Saying/ word: Oh ya gettin on mi waz Meaning: You are getting on my nerves 14. Saying/ word: Peas are getting above sticks Meaning: Things are getting out of hand 15. Saying/ word: Si thee int fog! Meaning: See you around 16. Saying/ word: Top fettle Meaning: Feeling good 17. Saying/ word: Barm Joes Meaning: Barn cakes or bread rolls Do you agree with this list? Keep in mind when reading that I didn't write this nor define the geographical areas, so don't shoot the messenger! Lynne

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